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Old 05-06-2012, 12:39 PM
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I like to ask which gun would you buy ?
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I am looking for a light weight 380 for pocket carry .
The Ruger reviews are good and I just shot the LCP the other day the gun ran flawless 3 clips all group fired at 12 yards not much more then a 1" group on paper.
The Bodyguard I have not handle yet but it seem it has been a topic on recall for the gun going back to S@W for repair
any view pro or cons before I make a purchase
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For pocket carry, the LCP wins hands down.Put it into a Recluse holster and you can carry in your jeans front or rear pocket with ease. If you decide on the RUger, you should get a BT Guide rod & a set of recoil springs from Wolff. The factory units are, well ****. The guide rod head will peen over & the Wolff springs will help with feeding some ammo. Mine has over 1,200 rounds thru it. The factory guide rod was trashed after 500. Other than that issue, the gun is flawless. Just get used to shooting the miniature sights & you'll be good to go. Carry the Corbon DPX ammo in it.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:36 PM
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For pocket carry, the LCP wins hands down.Put it into a Recluse holster and you can carry in your jeans front or rear pocket with ease. If you decide on the RUger, you should get a BT Guide rod & a set of recoil springs from Wolff. The factory units are, well ****. The guide rod head will peen over & the Wolff springs will help with feeding some ammo. Mine has over 1,200 rounds thru it. The factory guide rod was trashed after 500. Other than that issue, the gun is flawless. Just get used to shooting the miniature sights & you'll be good to go. Carry the Corbon DPX ammo in it.
??? I had no idea someone made guide rods for the LCP! I'm going to check this out.

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Old 05-06-2012, 03:15 PM
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M E:Wolff springs what weight spring did you go with over factory spec:
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:21 PM
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If you were able to shoot a 1" group at 12yds with a LCP then that's one you should keep! Both are getting hard to get, I've got both a B/O and they're telling me at least July before I see the Bodyguards.
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:30 PM
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I hope all LCP shoot the same or did I just get lucky with the one I shot
I ran 3 full clips threw the gun with the same groups.I did one clip with
the lazser but I like the iron sights more like just a point and gun for close range out to 12 yards max:
I did come across this link to improve on the RUGER LCP SIGHTS
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:49 PM
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The Smith has a lifetime warranty and you can buy it for less than $290 if you qualify as a first responder.

Mine is an EAL serial number and I have never had any issues after more than 600 rounds and 400 dry fires. The early models had some laser problems and some broken firing pins. Mine runs like a watch...
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Get the bodyguard
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:02 PM
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I would say neither. But out of the 2 the LCP is superior. It's very snappy and unmanageable for me with my huge hands. It's still an awesome gun and imo the best pocket .380

My buddy had a BG380 after the first magazine , 1st shot on 2nd mag resulted in a kaboom -- it was an early one though and I hear they fixed the issues. It also looks cooler then the LCP but go with the Ruger.
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I have shot both, and went to the Sig P238. It has a bit more mass, resulting in less recoil and jumping. It also has a much more manageable trigger.
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I have shot both, and went to the Sig P238. It has a bit more mass, resulting in less recoil and jumping. It also has a much more manageable trigger.
Copy that, P238 easily spanks both the LCP and the SBG, Less snappy recoil gives better second shot, crisp trigger, better fit and finish. Having owned all 3, I sold the SBG and the LCP, the Sig is the way to go
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:27 PM
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here's a useful link from our friends at mouseguns.com:

http://mouseguns.com/CompactCompare.pdf
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:53 PM
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Well I'm not sure this thread is going to help you determine which to buy. Everyone will have their own opinion. I own a Sig P238 and 2 BG380's. I have also shot the LCP but have never owned one. My Sig has issues. It does not eject well at all. It is rare to get a single clip through without a FTE.

I haven't had a single problem with my BG 380s. They have been flawless. I also prefer the BG or LCP over the single action Sig. Just my opinion.

The most important part of any CC self defense weapon is that it works flawlessly. If you find an LCP that does it . . . buy it.
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I own both, but always end up carrying the LCP, just because it is so flat and light. Almost like a pocket knife. I have a 442 and a 357 model 60. Bought the same pocket holster (DeSantis) that I use with the LCP, hoping that would make the Smith easier to carry. Nope. Love S&W, own a bunch, but carry a Ruger most days. No picture of my LCP, that would be like including a picture of my claw hammer, just a good tool for a particular job.
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I've fired both the LCP and the Bodyguard. I ended up buying the Bodyguard and don't regret the decision for a moment. The LCP sights are useless, while the Bodyguard has sights you can actually use. Also, on the Bodyguard the slide will lock back after the final round, not so on the LCP. As far as reliability I have no doubt that both will perform flawlessly if properly maintained. I carry my Bodyguard everyday in a Desantis superfly pocket holster as a BUG to my G27, and have no doubt it will perform when needed. Ultimately, it comes down to what bells and whistles you want and what you feel the most comfortable with. Good luck on your quest, I look forward to hearing your decision.
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LCP nice gun, just doesnt fit my hand right. So far my Bodyguard is totally reliable and surprisingly accurate. Disappears in my pocket.
Will pick up a P238 as soon as I can find a plain blue one. Wont pocket carry cocked and locked though.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:52 AM
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I have the LCP, 238 and the Bodyguard. Outa the three listed the way I see it is; each one has its own pluses and minuses, but after owning and shooting each one extensively, I rank um as follows. Top shooter is easily the Sig P238, secondly the Bodyguard and lastly the LCP. The Sig totally tames the recoil and is very accurate. The BG comes in second for felt recoil and can be better when using he extended grip plate that is offered as a accessory which actually makes a full size grip and gives superior control over all of um. The LCP is a excellent pocket option, but can be a handful with the tiny grip. The BG really isn't much better, but the grip angle helps with the muzzle flip.

IMO, the best value is easily the BG. The Sig is a awesome pocket/IWB option but they can be pricy, especially if you go with night sights like I did. The trigger system on the Sig is a pleasure to shoot and the accuracy is only helped due to that factor alone. The thumb safety is easy to manipulate and is a good measure of safety for the cocked and locked mode of carry. The BG has a extremely long trigger pull that can be a problem to master, but it's designed to be a safety measure and can be mastered with some practice; which needs to be done anyway. My LCP sits in he safe and has for along time now. Since my BG purchase a while back so has the Sig. The size and weight coupled with the accuracy of the BG makes it the ideal pocket pistol IMO. The insight laser easily makes up for the night sights during low light situations on the Sig, and the iron sights on he BG are easily acquired during day use.

Some of he early issues with the BG have been addressed and if you can get your paws on one of the later ones you should have a VERY reliable little pocket option. The caliber isn't the first choice obviously, but if the operator can shoot the pistol, the round is sufficient, and even more so in quantities of two or three...

I have plenty of carry options and carry most all from time to time, but what's in my pocket right now as I sit in my living room typing this on my iPad, yup, my BG stoked with BuffaloBores hot Barns All copper HP round. This is the best stuff on the .380 market IMO. The next would be he Speer Gold Dots. Either or would be a good defense round in the .380 caliber. FWIT.
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is there a serial# range to stay away from on the bodyguards?
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:21 AM
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I did have a chance to handle the BD the one draw back on the gun for me was the laser system.I find the button was a pain and my trigger finger a little to short to activate the laser,The sale man had no problems showing how it work but he had larger fingers.I did like the gun would say a little larger then the LCP :I may have look a little deeper into the gun if they came with out the laser system
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I did purchase the ruger LCP this morning $299.00 now some Range time going to run some PMC and Fiocchi 95 HP threw it.
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:48 AM
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My LCP has been flawless with 4-5 different ammo types.
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Another vote for the LCP. Reliable and accurate with an OK trigger. The LCP isn't ugly either.

Which did S&W forget how to do first, build nice looking handguns or make good triggers? Regards 18DAI.
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Had the LCP and found the BG.380 to have a more manageable recoil, I can rack/lock the slide back on the BG, but not the LCP. Sights on the BG .. all kinds of little things that added up to ditching the LCP for the BG.380.

I could care less about the laser on the BG.380. It is a point & shoot BUG, mainly designed for fast draw CQ shooting. In that situation, the laser is useless.

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LCP. ive had mine for years. reliable as heck. backs up my 360 pd airlight.
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I'll be 'that guy' and say the Taurus TCP, better than both mentioned in the title in trigger and point shooting ability for me, plus the slide locks back on the last round unlike the LCP, nice feature.
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Test fired the LCP to day about 50 rounds with my left hand un-supported average group 1 1/2 to 2" at 21 ft.
The gun ran excellent with 3 different types of ammo Federal,PMC and Fiocchi FMJ @ HP point of aim dead center group was about 1" hight and about 2" to the right I find my left hand does cant to sight a little to the right
Man: the gun sure is a keeper Waite until my right hand comes around
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I owned the LCP and have shot both, you'd be fine w/either one. I only sold the Ruger b/c I have more comfort carrying a J frame (old dog, new tricks). I chose the Ruger b/c I did not want to pay for a laser I'd never use, but again both are fine for their intended purpose.
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My wife has an LCP w/ Crimson Trace laser. She was not to comfortable with the amount of recoil. Also, when she would fire it, it would rub on her finger and would almost cause a blister. She did not like that at all. Maybe it was something she was doing wrong. Went and bought a 9mm Shield. Very comfortable with it. Has good sights and not as much recoil. This now is her EDC gun. The LCP is now for fun when we get it out.

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Had an LCP on raincheck at $289, but when it came in I ended up buying the Bodyguard instead. Bought it because the LCP and a laser would have been more costly. Shot the first 100 rounds through it yesterdaywithout a single issue. Pattern was very tight for the first time. Even better than my Walther PPS. I am quite impressed with the out of box performance. I also shot my buddy's Bodyguard with about 500 rounds through it. The trigger was much smoother and easier to pull. Same pattern results.

The Bodyguard gets my vote.
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I just ran another 50 rounds threw the 380 LCP not a Hi-cup just did what it was made to do pull the trigger and brass just keeps on flying:I did finally settle on a number #1 unckle mikes pocket holster Man stays put no pocket print and the gun clears the pocket holster fast as lightning
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i own both and IMO the BG380 is far superior in every way
Slide lock,better grips,better balence,gun has sights,free lazer,
mine never jams.....my LCP does jam,has no sights and makes me bleed everytime I shoot it......no slide lock either and no lazer
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I love my lcp w/crimson trace on it.
My question with the Bodyguard is how long will they continue to make it with the current laser before something changes and the parts won't be available for that laser anymore. Plus if the laser breaks you are out a gun until it gets repaired, or live with it without the laser. That's the only downside I see with the Bodyguard.
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I have not had both but I have a BG380 and I used to own the LC9. I did not care for the LC9 trigger was horrible but was meant to be that way, I do not like the loaded round indicator, although a lot of people do like it. I don't like the plastic guide rod and did not like the feel in my hand. It also has a magazine safety which I did not like. If you think S&W 380 had recalls, look up the LCP on Google for problems especially on the Ruger sights.
The BG380 is a perfect pocket gun in my opinion. It is very comfortable in the hand, SS guide rod comes stock on it. No magazine safety, I like the laser on the BG, The BG comes straight out of the box perfect, no complaints No problems, flawless.
Get the BG380
By the way the BG380 will never be sold. The Ruger just could not force myself to like it and I have always been a big Ruger fan. I love thier P90's and Mark series of pistols.

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Love my P238 with night sights. Accurate and little recoil. I have not shot the BG380. Didn't have an interest in the laser since I used to own a BG38 and didn't like the on off button, plus I wasn't very accurate with it, compared to my 642.

Now for pocket, I go with the P238, and for pocket or ankle the 642.
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forgot to add, no FTE or FTF with P238 running PMC 95gr. FMJ at the range, or Federal 90gr. Hydra-Shok JHP for SD.
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is there a serial# range to stay away from on the bodyguards?
I'm interested in an answer to this as well. My brand new BG380 is coming tomorrow but it would be nice to know at what point everything was fixed.
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I have the P238 and my dad has the BG380. I have not tried the LCP. I know several people with the LCP and the like it. I did not like the trigger pull on dads BG. Way too long. The Sig has a smooth trigger. Mine came with night sights and a laser. I just purchased a 40 shield for carry and my sister is trying out my Sig.

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