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Old 03-07-2016, 03:43 PM
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By the way, the serialnumber on the weapon for sale is MSF 8808
I will have to add MSF8808 to the original post, thanks for the heads up.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:52 PM
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This may actually be the solution for my problem. It refers to the IPSC reloading list and another source. This sounds good enough to me. I'll keep you informed.

By the way, anyone interested in this model Super9 which I found in Holland? I may be of assistance if you'd be interested.
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By the way, the other one which was sold already has sn MSF 8819

Recently I saw a few of these guns sold through Dutch importers in the Netherlands. They all seem to have serial numbers starting with MSF 88.. It looks like some US government agency replaced its pistols.
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Old 05-02-2016, 01:58 PM
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Did anyone happen to see this auction. Makes me think about selling mine.


Rare Smith & Wesson SUPER 9, 3 barrel model : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com
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I saw that one as well!
If you follow GB - not always do similar items do as well - just my opinion.
If you sell - OBVIOUSLY - set a reserve you're happy with.
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If you sell - OBVIOUSLY - set a reserve you're happy with.
Oh, I don't know about that. I believe that part of what generates the wild interest at GB is $1 open and no reserve.

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Oh yeah, I saw that one.
That may very well be a "high water mark" for the Super 9. I certainly don't want to say anything negative about the extremely -COOL- and fantastic looking pistol that the Super 9 sure is, but some things come to mind and none of them play well to an audience.
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That may very well be a "high water mark" for the Super 9.
Or maybe not since this was posted back on 07-11-2015 in this same thread...

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Obtaining a Super 9 at a price equal to $500 American is an outrageously good deal. One of these with the three barrels sold over here at auction not long ago for almost $3,000!
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Old 05-02-2016, 08:39 PM
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Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that!
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:58 PM
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For what it's worth, I bought two of these in Jan 2003.

1) Serial No MSF6959 for 700$.
I got this one from GunsAmerica or GunBroker; I do not remember which.

2) Serial No MSF6894 for 830$
I had a local dealer order this one from Smith &Wesson.

Both of these came in the Blue box with three barrels. I do not think they were sold as Performance Center guns.

I understand that the later ones came only with the 9mm barrel.

About the same time I bought several 1000-rnd cases of Federal 356TSW ammo from CDNN for slightly less than 100$/case.
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:20 PM
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Dear friends gunlovers,

You won't believe the trouble I went through for getting my S&W Super 9 approved. Guns regulations in Europe are ridiculously strict. I got the barrels 9x19 and 9x21 approved easily. The trouble was with the 356 TSW. The amo at the official 'testing agency' was destroyed end of the 90's. The result is the barrel could not be tested. This meaning I could not get an approval.

The officials threatened to withdraw my licenses. It took me literally hours to explain to them that this 356 TSW was the least harmless barrel since there's no ammo available in Europe. They wanted to cut my barrel in half!

Finally I found 100 empty shells in northern Germany. They cost something close to the price of pure gold. I got them by special courier service.

After that I had to get all the ammunitions calculations. None of the manufacturers were willing to give the info. So I approached a ballistics lab to make all the calculations.

After that I had to make a deal with the guy at the lab of the 'approval agency'. Fortunately I'm fluent in French and after some 20-30 telephone calls we got to know each other and this guy was willing to help me.

Finally all docs I submitted were accepted. And my barrel got approved. I'll get my hardware back somewhere next week. I'm really looking forward to testing it ... .

Right now I'm looking into another thrilling project. A Sphinx grand master. Which I'll be able to buy at 1/3 of the new price. It has fired only 500 shots so far. Testing next Saturday... .

I'd love to get some of that 356TSW amo to shoot it. I'm afraid I'll have to manufacture it myself.
Should anyone would have to go through a similar process and have to manufacture his own ammo for an official approval, I'd be willing to share this information. This might be of particular interest for people inside Europe.

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Old 06-21-2016, 12:33 AM
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Most shooters of the 356TSW load their own due to scarcity of ammo. Great gun and glad you got it through.
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Old 06-21-2016, 11:53 PM
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That sounds like a lot of good work on your part to get the barrel approved through a rather complex system. Dutch, English, and French; that is quite a multi-lingual resume, I can only claim English and GD&T.

I just searched for the "Sphinx Grand Master", looks like an impressive setup. I think you should have a Super 9 vs Sphinx shootout and post your results.

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Most shooters of the 356TSW load their own due to scarcity of ammo. Great gun and glad you got it through.
The scarcity of ammunition is not the hard part, it is the scarcity of brass.

Obviously you can cut 9x23 Winchester, but I like correctly headstamped brass and right now 9x23 Winchester is too rare to sacrifice. Besides I shoot 9x23
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:47 PM
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Can the brass be shipped to Europe from the States?
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I guess brass (without powder or primers) would not be subject to special controls. Although the receiver would need an arms permit I guess. @s537

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Old 02-03-2017, 12:27 AM
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Digging through the information on the following website:

Collectors Firearms Archives - Home

Which I was made aware of in this thread: PC 845 Limited: 2 variations or -THREE- ?!

I stumbled across another Performance Center Super 9 - it appears to be a factory demo and I added the new information to the bottom of the original post.
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Just adding my new addition to the thread. Thanks for all the great info here!














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Very nice Dan, congrats, great score.

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Hi Everyone

I spotted Super 9 MSF8522 a while ago and was lucky enough to purchase it. It's one of the Wischo units and has the 3 barrels and factory case.

It's a beautiful piece.

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Old 08-19-2017, 10:15 AM
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Hi Everyone

I spotted Super 9 MSF8522 a while ago and was lucky enough to purchase it. It's one of the Wischo units and has the 3 barrels and factory case.

It's a beautiful piece.

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MSF8522 would be a new serial number range for the Super 9; if you have any pictures to share, I would love to add them to the original post.
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Old 08-19-2017, 10:37 AM
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I found 1 S&w super 9 for sale today in the Netherlands, sn close to my own. I have contacted the owner for a good picture and referred to this forum. For the amateurs :
Smit & Wesson Supper 9 Pistool met 2 wissel lopen - Wapenadvertenties.nl
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:29 AM
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Awesome, please ask him about the book or brochure he has shown with the pistol. Thanks
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Old 09-07-2017, 09:04 PM
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The Dutch magazine article has been linked to the original post including the "google translation" of the text. It's not 100% accurate as you can tell by the following paragraph, but you get the idea:

"A pistol that can only trigger three different patterns by a single-handed fishing instructor, of course, requires a comprehensive test. A number of questions can be asked in this phenomenon. Can one and the same warehouse be the fit patterns well despite their different sleeve lengths? Let one and the same closing spring repeat the weapon without problems, despite the differences in gas pressure? But unfortunately, the answer to these questions should be guilty of you. A combination of lack of time other non-contributory causes made it possible to report only the performance with 9 mm Para ammunition. Sorry, but it's no different."
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About 3/4 of the way down in the original post I have added the latest Gunbroker auction results for both variants of the Super 9.

Thanks to Beemer1 for helping me keep an eye out for these auctions.
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Excellent thread. Thank you very much!
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I got three though my distributor KJF4581,2,3 in Jan.'01. They had 20 in stock at the time, all with the 9x19 barrel only. Probably more of a prelude to the "Pro Series" guns, they were suppose to come off the regular production line. Aside from the 5" slide, adjustable sights and trigger they had what they called "Speed Bumps" on the frame rails, small raised pads at the front and rear of the rails to tighten up the frame-to-slide clearance.
I was about to inquire about those raised areas on the frame rails. Very unique gun that I didn't know existed.
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About 3/4 of the way down in the original post I have added the latest Gunbroker auction results for both variants of the Super 9.

Thanks to Beemer1 for helping me keep an eye out for these auctions.
That latest one is mine, hope the stuff in the parentheses dont take away too much! Smile
Just adding to my collection!

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Old 03-01-2018, 12:11 AM
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I'd say paying 60% less than a collector condition pistol is not bad.

Mags are cheap and Midway still shows the extra barrels as a special order for $115 each.

If you can get a better picture of your pistol that shows the serial number, I can update the one that I currently have shown for MSF6994 in the original post.
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Default ADDITIONAL INFO ON THE SUPER 9

I OWN SERIAL # MSF6935 WITH ALL 3 BARRELS. I AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER. CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF ITS POSSIBLE TO GET A 4" 5906 SLIDE MDAE FOR THE SUPER 9? I ALSO HAVE 4566 CQB PRODUCT CODE 170105 WHICH I WILL BE OFFERING FOR SALE VERY SOON.
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Here’s mine...
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Nice...
Thanks for the pic, I've swapped out the old picture in original post with this one.
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Hi,

I am new in this forum and have no experience with S&W.

I detected a Smith & Wesson Super 9, cal. 9x19 at a dealer in Germany. S/N is TDM9745.

Dealer asks about 1.000 USD ... is that a fair price?

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You raise an interesting question. What is fair market value in Germany? I assume you are thinking of buying it there and owning it there. If so, I doubt many of us here Stateside can help you much when it comes to German value.

On the other hand, if you are in the United States or another country and found it at a German gun store, and perhaps you are thinking of buying it and having it sent to you, be careful. I understand that there are a lot of reasons you might not be able to do this, or that it might be very expensive.

For whatever help this provides: in the USA, $1,000 would be a very good buy on a Super 9.
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I am new in this forum and have no experience with S&W.
I detected a Smith & Wesson Super 9, cal. 9x19 at a dealer in Germany. S/N is TDM9745.
Dealer asks about 1.000 USD ... is that a fair price?
Thank you for a reply.
Thank you for providing a picture of an unknown serial number range for the Super 9, I have added it to the original thread.

$1,000 would be a great deal in the US, based on the latest Gunbroker sales, but the collector market may not be the same for these pistols in Europe/Germany.
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Thank you for providing a picture of an unknown serial number range for the Super 9, I have added it to the original thread.
It was my main intention, to support your summary, value evaluation is second, but I am happy to read that it seems to be a good opportunity.
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