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Old 01-12-2013, 05:39 PM
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Default NEW BODYGUARD 380 TRIGGER KIT

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I have been dealing with a Class 3 manufacturer of aftermarket gun parts for some time. I have a trigger kit from this manufacturer on one of my guns, not a S&W gun. I do not presently own a Bodyguard, but am aware of the long, deep breaking trigger. I was told they will soon have a trigger kit for the S&W Bodyguard 380. The kit will shorten the pull to near half of the stock pull length. The break point will be moved forward to near the center of the trigger guard. All the stock BG safeties will still function. The release of the kit is not expected for a couple of months, but it is coming. I am not releasing the manufacturer's name until they have the product ready for sale. They do not want to be bombarded by questions as to what, how, and when. They are closed next week for the Shot Show. This is just to let those BG owners know that if you don't like the trigger pull, an option will be available soon.


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Great news. Hope it works out. And thanks for the post.
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I'll definitely be following this topic. I would love to have a better trigger pull on my BG380. I love the gun, but it would be nice to have a better trigger pull.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:35 AM
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Interesting. I'd have to break developed habits using this gun (only with this gun), like
  • The white knuckle grip on all fingers but the index (while the goal is not a shotgun trigger yank, I imagine under duress it will be so my muscle memory is focused on keeping the thing on target)
  • The instruction manual addressed trigger staging (oh so easy once you experience the resistance drop near the break). Anyways, I'm pretty much broken of this habit as I never experienced SA accuracy.
  • And the fun one where I see how far back I can pull the trigger without firing. Good for a shot of adrenaline, anyways. I bet I'd do well if this event was judged.

So since I can't call them and ask a million questions (good call), I too will keep an eye on this thread.
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Great news, now I can decide if I want to change the factory setting while I wait. Traded my BG380 off approx. 2 months ago, what a mistake that was, have regretted it ever since. I just ordered another one from a LGS and it is in and will pick it up the end of this month. Can't wait.I should have never gotten rid of that gun in the first place. Traded it for a Sig Sauer P290 great gun just not quite as comfortable to carry in you're pocket.
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I have a Ruger LC9, which had a similar long, deep pull as the Bodyguard. I installed a trigger kit, and it took two trips to the range to get used to it. With the kit first installed, my first trip to the range I would start pulling the trigger and "bang". It would surprise me as it seemed I had just started pulling back and the gun would fire. When you are used to the long, deep break point and you shorten the pull by 1/2 inch, it is an adjustment. After the first trip to the range I spent some time dry firing at home. The next trip to the range was perfect. I was adjusted to the new pull, and loved it. I would never go back to the original long, deep pull. The shorter pull was great, but what I liked best was moving the break point forward about 1/2 inch. It just made the pull very comfortable and helped with my accuracy.

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I have a Ruger LC9, which had a similar long, deep pull as the Bodyguard. I installed a trigger kit, and it took two trips to the range to get used to it. With the kit first installed, my first trip to the range I would start pulling the trigger and "bang". It would surprise me as it seemed I had just started pulling back and the gun would fire. When you are used to the long, deep break point and you shorten the pull by 1/2 inch, it is an adjustment. After the first trip to the range I spent some time dry firing at home. The next trip to the range was perfect. I was adjusted to the new pull, and loved it. I would never go back to the original long, deep pull. The shorter pull was great, but what I liked best was moving the break point forward about 1/2 inch. It just made the pull very comfortable and helped with my accuracy.
What trigger kit did you use?
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I put in a Galloway Precision trigger kit. Galloway would order the stock LC9 parts from Ruger, and modify them. After around 3000 kits, Ruger cut off the supply of parts. GP is currently working on a new supplier for parts, but as of today, they do not have trigger kits. I spoke to the owner of Galloway, and he said he hoped to be soon selling the kits again, but the date was sometime in the future.

If you have a LC9, if you remove the trigger bar and hammer and send them in to Galloway, they will modify them and you will have the trigger kit (cost is $40). The problem with this is that you can not go back to a stock gun, and for resale it may effect the value of the gun. Better to keep the stock gun and add the new parts when they become available.

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Any more news about the trigger kit?
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Took my BG380 to the range tonight for the first time - and the trigger is not fun at all - two other shooters agreed. A couple of times it got in the second joint in my finger and when I had finished pulling it had not gone off - had another mm or so to travel. Not sure why it seems easier to pull the trigger when it is not loaded.

In any case - hoping Galloway releases their trigger mod soon - I do want to like this gun and it might even become my concealed carry (taking the class in a couple weeks) but the stock trigger makes it difficult to operate effectively.
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A couple of months have passed and haven't heard anything new. Galloway Precision is not taking phone calls because they don't have time, so where can they find the time to get a new product to market. I'm having some doubts about a BG380 trigger kit anytime sooner than next year, if at all. Does anyone have any hard information, the GP website doesn't say any thing about a new kit for the BG380. Thanks
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I personally wouldn't alter the trigger on a BG380, the long trigger is a very good safety measure for a pocket gun.This gun wasn't designed as a competition gun.It just needs to be practiced with, my wife has a couple hundred rounds through hers and she's keeping a very close group...with absolutely NO issues..

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Schlepprock,
Your comments are dead on!!
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I would be quiet happy if they would simply get the BG380 to be reliable.

Took my new never fired BG to the range today.

Wouldn't get off a round... appears to be the old broke firing pin problem...

Thought this was all behind them by now... maybe not..

Give me a BG with a 6lb trigger and make it work all the time and I'll keep it forever..
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I find my BG380 trigger pull to be long but pretty smooth. It's not bad at all, but I do hate the extremely long reset.
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I personally wouldn't alter the trigger on a BG380, the long trigger is a very good safety measure for a pocket gun.This gun wasn't designed as a competition gun.It just needs to be practiced with, my wife has a couple hundred rounds through hers and she's keeping a very close group...with absolutely NO issues..
I agree, one of our CPL instructors warned us about the legal issues modifying firearms and even the type of ammo used in a defensive situation. Plus, I donít want a gun with a haired trigger in my pocket.
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I have zero issues with my bodyguard. The laser was spot on out of the box. The laser screw even had a dab of loctite on it. I have 500 rounds downrange and love this little guy. The trigger takes time to get used it but I like it. Its DAO its supposed to be like that. That way you can carry in in your pocket loaded with no safety and not worry about it going off.

In my video Im shooting +P ammo out of it . HAHA. last gun to shoot.


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Hmmm......

So another manufacturer is offering another trigger kit for yet another model S&W pistol.

I'm old enough to remember when S&W handguns came with an excellent trigger, from the factory. No aftermarket expense required.

In fact, S&W hired Wayne Novak to insure the 3rd gen designs had a better trigger than the previous generation pistols.

Exactly what do you get for your money from S&W these days? Regards 18DAI
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I personally wouldn't alter the trigger on a BG380, the long trigger is a very good safety measure for a pocket gun.This gun wasn't designed as a competition gun.It just needs to be practiced with, my wife has a couple hundred rounds through hers and she's keeping a very close group...with absolutely NO issues..
5 out of 6 who have shot our BG380 do not want to shoot it or carry it, just too much effort to become accurate with it.
Two of them have gotten bitten by the slide as well. I will carry it till a trigger mod comes out.
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Oh, my goodness! Some of you aren't going to want to hear my opinion of my new BG380. I've shot my wife's LCP quite a bit, and hated every round. Now THAT'S a long trigger and reset! My first trip to the range today showed that the BG, with real sights, and a nice trigger pull, albiet somewhat long reset, while nowhere as long as the LCP, was stupid accurate at 50 yds handheld. Outstanding for a belly gun. Opposite of the LCP. Only problem, was very light strikes on the primers. However, two additional trigger pulls, and every round went off. (Fiocchi good, RWS bad, PMC so-so). So, all I have to address is the light strikes. And, yes, the laser was spot on from the box.
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I agree, one of our CPL instructors warned us about the legal issues modifying firearms and even the type of ammo used in a defensive situation. Plus, I donít want a gun with a haired trigger in my pocket.
Getting trigger work done does not mean the gun has a "haired" trigger...
A CLEAN 4 to 6.5 lb trigger professionally done is a predictable trigger, which makes it safer.
There are competition triggers and duty triggers, you need to know the difference.

Show me a case where a good shoot was negated by a gun mod.

Too many people in the gun community hold onto urban myths..
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Latest update BG380 trigger from Galloway..

Bodyguard 380 Performance | Galloway Precision


Be nice to see them offer a SS machined Firing Pin as well.
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Does anyone know the release date on the BG trigger mod?
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Has anyone spoken to the Galloways in regard to delivery dates for their BG upgrades? Thanks,
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I emailed Eric the other day and received this response.

I am awaiting heat treat on the BG380 parts, should be a couple weeks and on the site.

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Seems that the shortened trigger pull bar is available, sort of, from Galloway (Galloway Precision :: Smith & Wesson Performance :: Bodyguard 380 Performance Parts ) for $90. Seems a little steep for an under $400 belly gun. Someone here noted that the part was PAINTED, a no-no in my book

My wife likes her BG380 but says the trigger pull is mos def too long so maybe this kit will cure that. Also, with certain ammo, Herter's mainly, she is plagued by FTF caused by weak strikes. There is an improved (?) firing pin available from GP ($25), supposedly hardened tool steel, that may be the ticket.
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Initially, they sold just the trigger bar for $50. You could also get it as part of a kit with an adjustable take-up trigger. I bought just the bar and it made the gun completely unreliable. Light strikes all day. I wound up returning it. This must have been a widespread problem, because now they only offer it as part of a kit for $95:

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I just installed this kit, so far it seems to have improved trigger travel, but I have not had a chance to hit the range to see how it shoots. It was a fairly easy, straight forward install.
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Interesting. I installed the transfer bar and trigger and had to sand off all the paint to get it to move smoothly and reset properly. Had some light strikes so bought the springs and now waiting for a sight pusher tool to arrive to install the test of the springs so I can try it again. Maybe I should have got the firing pin while I was at it.
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I dont think the Galloway trigger bar is painted, looks more like blueing to me, but I also polished it very well along with the housing that it slides against.
I bought the FP but two of us on here have problems with the fitment. The taper seems to be a tad too large and it gets stuck in the FP channel. So I re-installed the OEM FP but I did use the Galloway spring to try and improve misfires.
The gunsmith at the range couldnt budge the site on my slide so I came home, wrapped the slide with some cardboard, and mounted it gently in a large vise. I used a piece of aluminum flatstock, 1/4x1x6", that was laying around, and a heavy hammer and I was able to knock the site loose very easily without scarring up the slide. The alum is soft enough that it did not leave any marks on the slide.
I had to remove the site twice after finding out that the aftermarket FP did not function correctly. If you buy the FP be sure to check to see if if moves smoothly and completely through the channel in the slide before re-mounting site completely.
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