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Old 07-13-2013, 09:36 AM
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There is an LGS which I think I can get a mint early 4053 single stack gun with 3 7 round OEM mags for around $400 OTD (no box/paperwork).

I am not a fan of the DAO guns, but I think I can trade someone I know for a 4003 or 4013 which I would be interested in.

What is the value of the early 4053 single stack guns?
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If I were selling mine, $400 is what I'd want for it. But I don't think I'll sell it. I prefer the DAO for carry. If you get it be sure to shoot it some before passing it on.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:42 PM
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I like my 4053 as it is an excellent carry gun...no safety/decocker to bulk things up. My mags are the single stack variety and interchange with my 4014 (Similar to 4013 only is all black & 525 or so made). I wouldn't sell the 4053 for less than $400 either.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:46 PM
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Another reason to buy...there was a guy making 10mm conversions to S&W 40 cal single stack guns (certain models). Different barrel/spring are replacced and the existing mags work after removing the spacer. Unable to do so with most other models. Then ya have a 10mm compact which the factory never built. I haven't heard if they are in production yet.
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Man, in an aluminum-framed gun?! Wonder how that would hold up with real 10mm ammo.

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a 10mm compact which the factory never built
Might be those S&W engineers had their reasons.

Back to the OP's Q: I honestly don't think that the single-stack DAO compact aluminum-framed 4053 is all that sought-after . . . which I think is a shame, but I think that's the way it is. I'd be surprised to see a used one retail here for more than $375.
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I agree, it is a shame that it's not sought after, it's an outstanding pistol, especially the slim single stack version.
But if you're buying, it's an opportunity to get a great pistol cheap!
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There's nothing wrong with buying a gun to use as trade bait later.
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There's nothing wrong with buying a gun to use as trade bait later.
Oh, i've done that before. The problem is I never get around to trading them. I need to stop doing that.
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Another reason to buy...there was a guy making 10mm conversions to S&W 40 cal single stack guns (certain models). Different barrel/spring are replacced and the existing mags work after removing the spacer. Unable to do so with most other models. Then ya have a 10mm compact which the factory never built. I haven't heard if they are in production yet.
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They are all holding up just fine,
Have been busy with other some things right now.
I get to fit one in here and there.
CS-40 in 10 m.m. - DONE - CS-40/CS-45 Extended Magazines
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Man, in an aluminum-framed gun?! Wonder how that would hold up with real 10mm ammo.

Might be those S&W engineers had their reasons.

Back to the OP's Q: I honestly don't think that the single-stack DAO compact aluminum-framed 4053 is all that sought-after . . . which I think is a shame, but I think that's the way it is. I'd be surprised to see a used one retail here for more than $375.
Hey Erich,
If you remember the thread on this, I spoke to the S&W Engineers on this one and it was destined to be built as a 10mm but the .40 S&W took off and it was abandoned.
That's why the ejection port in the 4013/14/53/54 is so big and the mags are 10mm size w/the spacer.
1066 SSV, This barrel conversion thing is getting a little wild

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Yes,
They are all holding up just fine,
Have been busy with other some things right now.
I get to fit one in here and there.
CS-40 in 10 m.m. - DONE - CS-40/CS-45 Extended Magazines

Hey Erich,
If you remember the thread on this, I spoke to the S&W Engineers on this one and it was destined to be built as a 10mm but the .40 S&W took off and it was abandoned.
That's why the ejection port in the 4013/14/53/54 is so big and the mags are 10mm size w/the spacer.
1066 SSV, This barrel conversion thing is getting a little wild

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Can this be done with the 4006? If so that is pretty cool, what is cost?
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If you remember the thread on this, I spoke to the S&W Engineers on this one and it was destined to be built as a 10mm but the .40 S&W took off and it was abandoned.
I did not, but I do now!
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Yes,
They are all holding up just fine,
Have been busy with other some things right now.
I get to fit one in here and there.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-w...#post136029248

Hey Erich,
If you remember the thread on this, I spoke to the S&W Engineers on this one and it was destined to be built as a 10mm but the .40 S&W took off and it was abandoned.
That's why the ejection port in the 4013/14/53/54 is so big and the mags are 10mm size w/the spacer.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-w...ttle-wild.html

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Can this be done with the 4006? If so that is pretty cool, what is cost?

to joesmith357....I understand that they can only be done to single stack models 4013 4014 4053 etc..
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Another reason the fullsize 40S&W guns can't be converted is the 4013/4053/4054 guns were based on the 4516 size frame instead of the 3913 size.

That gave them a longer magazine well.
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