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Old 09-24-2013, 03:06 PM
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I was just at the range today with a friend of mine that also has the BG380. He wanted to test my new trigger pull now that I have installed the Galloway link bar. When he was done shooting mine, he said that he liked it and that it was a little bit better. I said what do you mean a little better, it’s a lot better! Then I proceeded to shoot his stock gun and he was right, it wasn’t all that much better. Upon inspecting his gun, I found that his stock trigger brock sooner than my stock trigger did. His stock gun was more pleasant to shoot than mine was. This made me think that maybe this could be why some guys hate the pull and some guys think that it’s ok. How many of you BG380 owners are ok with their trigger pull and where within the trigger guard dose it brake. Mine was almost touching the back of the guard before it brock.
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My gun is in the EAY8xxx range. I don't like its trigger but it is OK for what it is. It's not a target model so even though the trigger is heavier than I would like, I could probably hit a pack of cigarettes with it at 10-yards if I took my time. Good enough for this type of gun. All the BG380s I have seen were pretty good shooters. Mine is sensitive to ammo. It misfires frequently with Euro .380s. Seems fine with good stuff though.
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I had difficulty firing mine - even more so if I got my whole finger into the guard and the trigger hit the joint in my finger - was easier to shoot with the tip of my finger but then harder to hit the target and less comfortable to shoot.

I installed the Galloway Precision link bar and RTK trigger - haven't made it to the range yet - but on dry fire test the trigger pull is barely changed at all - but what is very different is the break point I can not rapid fir using any finger or finger position with the one exception being if I get too much finger in the guard at a bit of an angle it may not reset.

Galloway has reduced power springs - but I haven;t decide if that is necessary yet - as a concealed carry weapon with one in the chamber and safety off I am okay with a heavy trigger pull and even okay with a long trigger pull but did not like the break point being up against the frame - with my break point now a couple mm forward of the frame and some over travel it seems much better - but again need to get to the range to test - perhaps thursday.
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Mine is like yours, doesn't break until nearly touching the guard.
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The trigger is horrible. SW just needs to fix it on all new productions. HORRIBLE.
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The trigger is horrible. SW just needs to fix it on all new productions. HORRIBLE.
I Bought my BG380 to be a CC gun. I hope I never need it, but if I do, I am confident that I will not accidently fire a shot while in a high stress situation. I think the stock trigger is perfect for this type of gun.
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My trigger breaks almost at the back of the guard. I like the trigger for this type of pistol, if carried in my pocket with the safety off I have no fear of AD. As far as accuracy at 10 yards shooting as fast as I can get the front sight back on target I can get softball size groups. I do notice I tend to pull a little low of POA rapid firing but this is a small gun and I have pretty large hands.
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Small guy with small hands...I have no issues with the trigger. Mine breaks pretty far back in the guard and it is heavy as heck but, I like it. The gun shoots very well and I am extremely comfortable carrying it.

Just my 2 cents.
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Well mine is a 'bit" long and heavy, but this is basically a belly gun so in an important time you will not notice it or complain about it.

I am a person that back in the 70s trained to only shoot all DA revolvers in DA mode.(I did a LOT of PPC shooting!) Why bother to learn two trigger pulls. (KISS) I still shoot that way.

With that said I still find the pull of the little Smith a bit awkward but can adapted.

As a comparison I tried out two of the new Walther .22s. Do not remember the model but it’s built on the PP/PPK chaises.

That THING has a DA trigger pull that is not measured in lbs/oz but should be clocked in tons. I was thinking of getting it but after trying the pull on two different guns said NO WAY.

Now anyone that complains about the Smith go try one of those Walthers, you will then not complain about your Smith anymore.
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I have no complaints.
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Thanks for the posts guy’s. There is no doubt that the BG380 is accurate, mine will do those kinds of patterns at 15 yards. I was just wondering if the trigger pull, was a bit better on the guns of you guy’s that don’t seem to mind the trigger brake. Mine would almost hit the frame before it broke and my friends had at least a 16th of an inch left before hitting the frame. I had to pull the trigger with my fingertip to get it to brake, that was not the case when I shot his. One other difference in his gun was that it is an earlier build because it has the cast barrel and mine has the MIM barrel.
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My biggest complaint is the trigger. I just thought it was a safety feature...maybe not!
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I tried several .380 models at my local gun range before buying, and the Bodyguard was my favorite because of the comfortable trigger pull. The first time I went to the range with the new one I purchased, I was really surprised at how difficult the trigger was by comparison. I could have easily have shot 50 rounds with the test model....that is not possible with my new one. My finger muscle is sore and cramping after about 20. I am going to definitely explore the Galloway link bar.
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That Bodyguard 380 is a strange bird. Has pelican front with a laser that will not hold zero, and the one I had took so much time to pull the trigger from start to finish you could have lunch and almost drive to Cleveland before it broke thereby firing the gun. And I live near St. Louis.
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The trigger on my bodyguard breaks near the rear. A long pull?...yes. But for its intended purpose its not a problem.

If you want to use it as a range gun for fun...bad choice.
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Same here, which is why I am inclined to sell my BG380 to someone who doesn't have this issue. I have a couple compact 9mms that are not much bigger than the BG, which I don't have the aforementioned issue and pack a better punch.

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My BG380 trigger was exactly what I was looking for when I bought it, I knew I would carry it hot. I've practiced with this weapon quite a bit and wouldn't change the feel of it for anything. I am using a Pachmayr Tactical to help with the thickness of the grip.
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My BG380 trigger was exactly what I was looking for when I bought it, I knew I would carry it hot. I've practiced with this weapon quite a bit and wouldn't change the feel of it for anything. I am using a Pachmayr Tactical to help with the thickness of the grip.
Ditto. A little tip: A drop of super glue stops the Pachmayr from slipping off the grip during magazine changes.
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I liked the trigger pull first shot out of the box. In the Corps we were taught a slow, steady pull back. For the BG .380 this a must in order for the trigger to reset. With practice it is possible to get quick shots off using this method. It does have a long pull, which many do not like. Just a matter of individual preference. This BG .380 is highly accurate.
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It fires when you think you are almost out of room
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Mine has smoothed out to a long clean break after several hundred dry fires. A detailed cleaning and good lube helped alot. Very revolver feeling. I like the tigger pull on mine.
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Ditto. A little tip: A drop of super glue stops the Pachmayr from slipping off the grip during magazine changes.
Thanks for the tip but I'm afraid the glue would mar the finish on the grip.
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My Bodyguard trigger was breaking all the way back as well. Traded it in for a Sig P238 .380.......
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Same here, which is why I am inclined to sell my BG380 to someone who doesn't have this issue. I have a couple compact 9mms that are not much bigger than the BG, which I don't have the aforementioned issue and pack a better punch.
Took my wife to the range the other day to test a number of things - my first reloads - brass catcher on the .223 - etc.

Tested the Bodyguard 380 with the Galloway Precision transfer bar - and it worked.

During install I found that it was not resetting consistently and ended up removing all the black coating (paint?) and polishing it so that it would move freely up between the fame and chassis into the slide.

Before the upgrade I struggled to get it to fire with a solid comfortable grip - and was uncomfortable shooting it with a modified finger tip on the trigger and the wife said after having fired it as stock that she never wanted to do it again.

After the upgrade - I was able to fire consistently and easily (easily is relative here - still DAO and longer and heavier than my other guns - but easier than stock) - and the wife said that it was much easier (not that she put a lot of rounds through it in either condition) - although with her eczema (or psoriasis or whatever it is) it as not the most comfortable for her to shoot.
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Absolutely agree with the criticisms. I sold my .380 Bodyguard and bought a Shield 9mm. The shortcomings of one versus the other was outweighed by the pluses of the Shield. Sad testimony about what the BG should have been.
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Mine also breaks close to the back.
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Mine has a decent trigger, much lighter than 442 revolver.
It is an ECD serial # july 2013. Did they change the triggers recently?
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I have both the Ruger LCP and the SW Bodyguard. As of last range visit the LCP was more accurate because of the trigger and where it breaks. I have since installed the Galloway Short trigger bar and the SW BG now feels a LOT better! It still breaks near the rear of the trigger guard but the trigger is traveling about 30% less than it did before. It wasn't terrible before but the travel was so long that it gave too much time to come off target before it shot. I know that this is a training issue, but hey, I don't have hundreds of hours to train! I go to the range twice a year if I am lucky. I needed a shorter pull and I got it with the Galloway bar. I have only dry fired it so far but it is MUCH better IMHO. Installation is TRICKY!!! Do not trust the youtube videos completely because there is missing information you need! If you do it yourself, be VERY mindful of where the trigger return spring sits! It sits IN the trigger bar in a small groove made for it. It is possible to accidentally install it behind or in front of the bar! Don't do that. Also, there is the pivot point that installs into the trigger that attaches to the new trigger bar. If that is not tapped into the trigger far enough it will rub against the frame and stop the trigger from returning to the fully reset position. Learn from my mistakes! Good luck, Good shooting.

Here's an update: Galloway is saying the trigger return spring is installed wrong. I believe it is the trigger bar binding on the frame. Now I have to disassemble the gun and see what can be done. This does not bode well for the future....

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Considering the forum I'm on, this may not be a popular post but of all the true pocket sized guns I've shot in 9mm, the Kahr PM/CM series has hands down the best trigger. It's right at 5 lbs from the box and butter...think tuned S&W revolver smooth. The only downside if you're used to poly striker guns is the reset is all the way out, like a revolver. I don't mind that at all and will gladly trade a horrible trigger for a longer reset any day. I have a CM9 as a constant companion in summer in a Galco Pocket Protector. I wouldn't trade it if you offered me a Beretta Nano, a Bodyguard and an LC9 (unless I could sell them all and get a CM9 with the proceeds). Some have reported issues with magazines and reliability with the Kahrs but I've now owned two and I have a family member with a third with zero issue of any kind to date.
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Well, mine came with a smooth, but long trigger pull. My usual carry guns are a S&W J-frame M60, and a Sig P290, both with long trigger pulls, so the transition to the BG was not difficult. It has a smooth pull, a good break, and I have no trouble shooting 1"+ size 7-shot groups with it out to 8-10 yds, slow fire from a modified Weaver Stance.

I like the long pull on any defensive pocket gun for the usual safety reasons, and have learned to use it effectively at speed. My only complaint, if that's really what it is, is the caliber. A 9mm chambering in the same gun would have been perfect. Just a bit more velocity, and bullet weight, eh? But maybe Smith tried that approach and found that it just wasn't possible to get it into a truly pocket sized gun.

I bought the Sig P290 as a pocket gun but quickly found that it's weight and slightly bigger size, made a holster of some sort mandatory. The Bodyguard fills both design features to a tee...size and weight.

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It finally arrived! My Galloway trigger bar! Well installed with new springs and yuk pull was harder and as rough as coarse grit sandpaper with a tiny bit shorter. Back with the stock hammer spring, hmm it was better as it lessened pull weight but resetting was hit or miss and still super rough, followed adjustment procedure found on the web as no installation instructions are provided. Stripped 3rd time and polish everything, rear roll pin hole had metal drill flash around hole that new bar rubbing on. Removed flashing (metal shavings still attached) and polish 800 grit at every place possible movement then lube. Trigger is a marked improvement in both smoothness and pull weight it also breaks where the old one staged. I admit that the Galloway parts make this gun a better shooter as I am older and long hard trigger pulls makes my hand shake (sucks to get old). Well, new parts and no more shake, .5" groups at 15'. This I can live with but I feel this is what the gun should have started with not spend another $100 and then polish and fine tune to achieve. There is enough info on youtube for disassembling and installing the trigger bar. A dummy 380 round is necessary for repeatably working the trigger not to damage firing pin and patients, but the work does leave you with more confidence in the weapon so its a win. I just have to remember this gun is not a precision match weapon its a pocket pistol for defense at 20' or less and now I'm satisfied with it, now I just need to find more ammo!
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I detailed my new BG380 trigger range experience in another thread ... But to summarize just the trigger portion of my post.

I was not happy with my trigger or the firing pin strikes during the first few hundred rounds. Now after over 1000 rounds, the trigger pulled has reduced, the break point is 75% back as opposed to near full travel before break in. Still heavy pull, but very predictable and smooth. I EDC chambered with safety off, and like that I won't be shooting myself in the gluts or thigh during a wallet holster draw. Great CCW choice IMHO, break it in with several hundred rounds before making your final decision. If I made my EDC decision prior to 500 rounds ... I would be carrying my LCP.

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