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Old 12-22-2013, 07:46 PM
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I would like to piece together my ideal carry gun, and I'm looking for some direction.

I don't believe there is such an animal, but what I want to start with would be, according to the numbering system, a 4514.
A couple of features I would like to incorporate, if possible:
1. 45 ACP
2. Black or blued finish
3. fiber-optic front sight
4. Left-side only de-cocker

My questions:
1. Would I be better off starting with a 457? I seem to remember the 908 I once owned had a different front sight setup than my 3913. I definitely want a fiber optic front sight.

2. Would a 4513 be a better platform to start with (not that these are just laying around everywhere)? I could live with a stainless finish, I just prefer black.

3. I have only owned TDA 3rd gens. Is the DAO trigger lighter than the DA trigger on a TDA pistol? This would eliminate my de-cocker problems.

4. Is there a pistol that has these features already that I'm overlooking?

This isn't anything I'm expecting to happen overnight. More of a fun project, but I do think it would be an ideal carry piece. In the meantime, I'll somehow "get by" with my 3913!
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Old 12-22-2013, 08:53 PM
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unless I'm missing something you already know what you need....a 457 and change the sights...I want to do that myself..
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What nocents said.
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If you want to try DAO, there's the 457D. It's double action only and a special order item for the Chicago PD, but also sold commercially. I don't have any interest currently in the 457, but if the D version came along, I'd be tempted. I had a 3953 (DA only and without a re-strike capability.) It's pull was similar to a first shot TDA, but smoother and slightly lightly. I never tried to measure the pull, but I think it was also shorter.
Now that I think about it, the 457D has a different trigger system (I think) and I don't know if my experience would carry over to the D. There are some 457Ds out there and someone will chime in, I'm sure.
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Thanks for the replies.

The 457 jumped to mind right away, but I'm assuming it is to the 4513 what the 908 is to the 3913. I found my 908 to be (understandably) rough around the edges, and a little thicker than the 3913, but i think that was due to the slide being less beveled. Can the 457 front sight be changed? For some reason, I thought the 908 sight was a different design than the 3913.

I also think I would like it to be de-cock only, as opposed to the safety.
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Thanks for the replies.

The 457 jumped to mind right away, but I'm assuming it is to the 4513 what the 908 is to the 3913. I found my 908 to be (understandably) rough around the edges, and a little thicker than the 3913, but i think that was due to the slide being less beveled. Can the 457 front sight be changed? For some reason, I thought the 908 sight was a different design than the 3913.

I also think I would like it to be de-cock only, as opposed to the safety.
+1 on the de-cock only. I too would like to know how to change my 457's to this.
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I have read of that change but I am not sure what the process is to do it. I think it is just some parts changing, but trusting my memory on that is not prudent. I was issued a 4566, which is a decocker only variant, but still DA/SA. I would prefer DAO. The DA/SA is not something I favor. Harder to shoot, and serves no useful purpose.

I have no need for one at all, but a DAO 69XX (6966, I guess if stainless can be had, otherwise a 6964) would be really nice.
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I believe in addition to parts, there was some special milling on the slide for the decock only models. I doubt the 457 has this. Hopefully Fastbolt will see this and chime in.
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Sure sounds like you want a 1911!

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I think you need one of these police surplus 457s mentioned in this thread: Used 457 on the way...

That way you'd have plenty of money left over for sights, ammo and holster and could have fun with a project gun getting it just the way you wanted. The commonality of controls and similar size to your 3913 makes this a natural choice, and you can spend as little or as much money on "building" an ideal CCW.
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