So, here's a question for all you 10mm enthusiasts, I was offered a mint, no MIM 1006 in trade for my Kimber TLE/RL. Granted it's not the only 1911 I own but is a 1006 in great condition worth the grand I dropped on the Kimber?

If you like it do it, you can get a .kimber anytime

Frankly, I've no idea as to what a TLE/RL Kimber even looks like, much less its caliber and etc.

Though I do know Kimber generally does produce a very fine weapon.

I, too, have faced $1,000 prices (at minimum) for 10mm S&W handguns. The better, um, maybe I should write "the prettier" guns going for the better part of $1200 to $1500.

However, the Blue Book of Gun Values puts a 100% new, in box (or NIB) at $750 and a 98-percent like new, in box (LNIB) at 100 fewer bucks.

On the face of it, the deal sounds, well, confused. Or, maybe that's just me. I've searched for an NIB or LNIB 10mm for a couple of years, now, and just about every time I get stories of them easily selling at $1k or above; former owners wishing they'd not sold, and so on.

Yet, the online Blue Book of Gun Values (BBGV) says an NIB 1006 is worth $750 with a $27 bump for "adjustable rear sights." According to the BBGV, the only 10mm breeching the $1000 barrier is the 1046 at both the 98- and 100-percent price points.

Every single time I look at a 10mm that's starting its price at something over one large I start thinking of the BBGV pricing, noting that the BBGV reads, "online subscription are based on national average retail prices for both modern and antique firearms, and some important accessories/acoutrements (SIC) may also be included. This is not a firearms wholesale pricing guide."Blue Book of Gun Values, Online Edition, How To Use This Online Subscription, updated monthly.

On the one hand, while I'm a gun collector who enjoys an ever-expanding collection, I just don't want to pay stupid prices for any gun. I'd like to say I never have, but can't. I'd like to say I'll never do such again, but probably will.

On the other hand, we've got an authority whose numbers aren't lining up with the ones I encounter. Now, such is nothing unusual because I also see deals where the gun being offered is for less than the BBGV price. In some cases, substantially so. Such happened just this weekend with a number (say, half-dozen) of 5946s with two of 'em spot on to the guide's upper numbers while at least four others ranged from $100 to $300 cheaper than what the BBGV says should be in the $500 to $600 range.

That type of price disparity tells me something's fixin' to happen to secondary market gun prices. The question is: "What's the answer?"

Well, I don't know just now. But you can bet your sweet bippy I'm gonna work on it.

Boing, I'd be a bit narrow-eyed in your case. There are ways you can see what's happening in your region of the country, although it takes a little more effort and access to the 'Net.

I think the overall point worth recognizing is that one does pay the fiddler at some point when buying a gun that he or she may wish to sell or trade for another in the future.

Now, a word about the Blue Book of Gun Values.

Flat out: It's worth the $34.95 yearly subscription.

If you don't trade guns frequently enough to warrant an annual subscription, then the BBGV offers single-gun pricing, too, and even for air guns.

Should you buy and use the BBGV for whatever purpose, the reader will get at least one thing: an education. The historical information, though at times scant on some guns, alone is worth the $34.95 to me.

Then, there exists another "authority," The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 3rd Edition, by Jim Supica and Richard Nahas. It is worth the price for the historical information but, being it was last published in 2006, the gun pricing is stale and appears unlikely to get freshened; that according to a QnA on that very subject within this very Smith & Wesson Forum.

The Smith & Wesson Forum is "free" to some but which is likewise worth the price of a voluntary annual subscription so as to assure this URL continues to operate. If anyone wishes to find historically valuable information, it's here. If anyone wishes to find modern, up-to-date information, it's here. If one wishes to learn how to reload, the "ideal" trigger pull or everything and anything at all involving Smith & Wesson guns, it's all here. And for some reason should some little ol' detail not be here, it will be here; of that I am certain.

With all due respect to those who labor in the Smith & Wesson facilities worldwide and most particularly of those in Massachusetts and Maine, in my less-than-humble opinion, Smith & Wesson "lives" here Make a donation. Just do it and become a real part of Smith & Wesson.

I'm gonna tell you: This collector of Smith & Wesson's first-through-third generation handguns, of which he now quickly approaches 100 examples, in the process simply could not do without the above sources and references. And that's why each is worth the cost.

Yet, this collector still consumes as much knowledge as he can find, arising from old magazines to, well, modern day computers and Bing.

Good luck, Boing!

+1 to perfectcircle! The ten's are getting so hard to find that if you are interested in one you better jump on it given the chance. The trade difference I think is somewhat in your favor. Maybe you can get him to toss in some ammo too?

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Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire

Life is short make the trade.

Do you like your Kimber? If you do, I think you will like the 1006 more. Or at least that is what I typically recall reading from others.

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If you were closer, I would let you shoot my S&W 1006 some to see how much you like it. I like the 1006 much better than the 1076 I had. I do like 1911 pistols, but gag at the high dollar versions. I am cheap. Keep an eye out and be patient, you will find an affordable S&W 10mm pistol.


My old S&W 1076. The design of the decocker lever irked me. I never warmed up to this gun and did not hit well with it. I swapped it off.

Ok, I did it as Kimbers are a dime a dozen. Came with original grips (new) and 4 mags (new) Owner said he shot it once or twice but never carried it. He replaced the original sights whit these millets or something, fixed night sights will be installed and he gave me 500 rounds of factory ammo to boot. There isn't a mark on the gun anywhere and no MIM.

Factory ammo is $30.00+ a box in my area, so you did very well. After my wife and I ran across a black bear while hiking two years ago my 1006 became an official hiking companion.

Thanks for the pics. Looking forward to the range report. I bet you will love it. Best of luck.

Good trade. Kimbers can be replaced any day of the week.
I just went thru the same scenario with my Kimber and I traded for a 4576. I may or may not replace the Kimber. Just not that impressed. They are nice, however, they are everywhere as are many 1911's. Your 1006 is hands down a more reliable, less finiky beast than any 1911. It will feed and continue to eat anything you offer to feed it.
Makes no difference what a "Blue Book" says, fact is their numbers on your model (and all S&W 10xx's) are fiction. They are worth what people pay for them. Plain and simple. You done real good. And also, I have several 10xx Smiths and they love Doubletap ammo. Real 10mm loads. Check em out and enjoy the power.

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NO, I don't have enough!

WOW! First ten I ever bought, and sold off when I could no longer carry it at work. INTerestingly, was privy to the video of a well-built robber taking two 175gr ST's from filling-station clerk's 1006. I think EITHER one woulda been a one-shot stop, and we later HIRED that clerk, LOL.

Anyhooo, that and the Glock are the only two I would trust for some steady use with tens. Still, I'd probably upspring it a little bit, and change recoil springs more often.

Man I got to get me one of those!!!

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I want a 1006 badly and have owned a 1066 for a while now. Dumped my 10mm Glocks because I just never picked them up and wanted to shoot them again after I bought the 1066.
My 1066 is rock solid reliable and a tack driver!
On 10mm ammo one name UNDERWOOD>
I carry the 165 Gold dots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHYEhGlw87M
Here is my 1066.

And on the range running 165 Underwood FMJ's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6a07qbklXY

I will watch for one if you are serious.

If I could find a 1066 in nice shape that wasn't an arm & a leg...I know, dream on.

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The book value has no real bearing on what a gun can and will sell for. I have never bought a gun and lost money on it, ever. I buy what I want and customize them, i have a 1076 with a novaks trigger job and reliability package plus a milt sparks holster. Is it a 750 dollar gun? I do not think so but only the market and the right buyer can determine that, one thing is for sure average guns sell for more than book value with nice prestige models bringing premium prices. Third gen smiths are no longer in production and their prices vary a lot. IMO those books are inaccurate when they hit the market.

Great trade - good for you! Enjoy your "new" pistol!


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Ammo here is 48.95 for a box of 50 HP's. After tax that's a buck a round

That's what I got, 135gr Double Tap

One response to that, UNDERWOOD AMMO!!
Underwood Ammo - 10mm Auto