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08-25-2014, 09:13 PM
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S&W 908 Question
Just took delivery of a 908 and I have a question about it's function.
It looks fine for a second hand gun and just as it did in the auction pics. It handles snap caps as it should; decocker seems to work as does the mag release and safety. (I need to clean it before I take it to the range.)
However, I'm wondering about the DA trigger. On my 669 if I begin to press the trigger, as the hammer goes back, it will stop in a "half cock" type position. From there I can thumb it back to fully cocked and shoot in single action (without having to rack the slide.)
On the 908 though, it doesn't go into the "half cock." Pulling the trigger will fire the gun, no pauses or stops. I either have to go all the way and shoot double action or rack the slide to put it into single action.
My question for those familiar with the 908 (or its progenitors the 3913 or 3914) is this a malfunction or the way it was designed. I ask because it is different than my 669.
Below are some pictures for those who don't believe it happened unless there are pictures. (and because I like my new gun)
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08-25-2014, 09:33 PM
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Okay, I did what I should have done before posting and taking the easy way out: I researched the 908 and half cock. Apparently the 3913 does NOT have a half cock type position; you either shoot it double action or rack the slide for single action for the first shot.
Glad I didn't waste anyone's time on this doing what I should have done in the first place.
Would appreciate any additional comments, however. After the range I may just put my 669 on the market and stick with the 908 for carry and my 59's for lots a bullets. (I also got a Sig P6, so I consider that another carry gun. It's now out to Sig for new sights, their special workover, and some trigger lightening work.)
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08-25-2014, 09:39 PM
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I have a 6906 and it does not have a half cock. On double action pull, there is no click, just fires upon the trigger being pulled. If I pull partly, I cannot get it to half cock. I think it is normal on the later 3rd gen. Smiths. Maybe the 669 had a half cock notch. I am sure others will reply.
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08-25-2014, 09:42 PM
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The reason for no half-cock is if you look at the bobbed hammer, you would get knuckleheads trying to manually lower the hammer by pulling the trigger and lowering the hammer with their thumb. This forces them to use the decocker. I have a family member that has been shooting autos since the 60's, and he still lowers with hammer with his thumb. (He owns Sigs, walthers, and berettas no less) yet was completely dumbfounded when I showed him how to decock my 3913. I don't think I'll be shooting with him much anymore.
Of course there were more 3rd gen autos with fully spurred hammers, than without, but you get the idea. Convert manual of arms to use the decocker.
You'll like it better than the Sig
But I do hear that sig is running a special on their Pseries makeover.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by handlebar
I have a 6906 and it does not have a half cock. On double action pull, there is no click, just fires upon the trigger being pulled. If I pull partly, I cannot get it to half cock. I think it is normal on the later 3rd gen. Smiths. Maybe the 669 had a half cock notch. I am sure others will reply.
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You can pull the trigger part way back in DA, and then grab the top of the bobbed hammer with your thumb, and cock it into single action.
But that is just plain dangerous and I advisable even under range conditions.
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08-25-2014, 10:12 PM
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But I do hear that sig is running a special on their Pseries makeover.
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They are, and I thought I found out about it here somewhere. $145 for complete disassembly and complete overhaul, replace small parts/springs, clean, lube, and reassemble. Plus they add Sig NiteSites as part of the package (they say the regular price is $245.)
I was all over it, plus went for some more dough to get their special trigger job. The DA Sig is about 12/13 lbs. (single action is reasonable), the trigger job fixes that to a large degree.
Here's the website for those interested:
SIG Service Plan
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08-28-2014, 11:17 AM
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You can pull the trigger part way back in DA, and then grab the top of the bobbed hammer with your thumb, and cock it into single action.
But that is just plain dangerous and I advisable even under range conditions.
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Yeah: I can do that with my 908, but why would I even want to?
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08-28-2014, 11:51 AM
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Your 908 functions as designed and is a great pistol. They carry IWB really well being as thin as they are.
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08-28-2014, 05:23 PM
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ALL first and second gen S&W pistols had a half-cock notch on the hammers (spurred and bobbed).
The half-cock notch was eliminated on the third gen pistols.
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08-29-2014, 01:44 AM
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Yeah: I can do that with my 908, but why would I even want to?
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To get back to SA trigger from a decocked state with a cartridge in the chamber.
If the gun's pointed down range, & you're coordinated, it's doable.
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