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That is Correct sir.it is one piece.One solid grip.
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Can you show us more pictures showing the interior, of both the left and right sides of the two grips?
I think this would answer the installation and removal questions. These are easily installed and easily removed?
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You can click on the OP's photo in post #44 and it will take you to his Photobucket album and there are lots of photos. If you click through them you'll find a photo of the interior of the grips - I don't they they are S&W grips, though. It appears that there are a couple of steel pins inside, but I'm not sure what holds everything together.
There are some beautiful stocks pictured and I'm anxious to get a few more answers.
* How are they installed?
* What kind of finish? Varnish? Or much better, wax?
* What options exist for customizing the grips?
There are more photos on fleabay that really got my attention. While I can do without the death's head decoration, there are some solid sterling silver grips for a BHP that will knock your eyes out.
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They don't seem to answer the question of how the 3rd Gen grips are constructed so that they can be installed.
That aside, these look very nice and if they do make them for the 3913 at some point, I'll probably order a set.
They'd look good on my 3913 9Tactical.
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You can click on the OP's photo in post #44 and it will take you to his Photobucket album and there are lots of photos. If you click through them you'll find a photo of the interior of the grips - I don't they they are S&W grips, though. It appears that there are a couple of steel pins inside, but I'm not sure what holds everything together.
There are some beautiful stocks pictured and I'm anxious to get a few more answers.
* How are they installed?
* What kind of finish? Varnish? Or much better, wax?
* What options exist for customizing the grips?
There are more photos on fleabay that really got my attention. While I can do without the death's head decoration, there are some solid sterling silver grips for a BHP that will knock your eyes out.
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OP - there doesn't seem to be any limit to what you can do with these grips. FWIW, the patents have expired on putting a laser in handgun grips. Laser diodes are about $4. Just say'n .... <hint, hint>
Put me down for a pair for a 908 (3913) or 457 (4513/4516).
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I am very much looking forward to seeing what their CS9 grips are like.
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I ordered some and would be happy to post some up close pics when they arrive. Although, I did not buy any that mimicked the factory plastic grips just the "rosewood" aftermarket style.
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They don't seem to answer the question of how the 3rd Gen grips are constructed so that they can be installed.
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Everyone seems to be dancing around the fact that S&W 3rd Gen one-piece wrap-around grips need some degree of flexibility to install and remove. So how is this achieved in wood? Is there some alternative interior design? And, if so, will the grips still attach tightly & securely without any movement in use?
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I have to add installation instruction video.I will do that tommorrow.it is figurable but I will add video tomorrow .Today we started to using wax.Customization options are endles.Try us...We are working on new Series.We call it elite series.Forum members can get better idea when they see those.
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Everyone seems to be dancing around the fact that S&W 3rd Gen one-piece wrap-around grips need some degree of flexibility to install and remove. So how is this achieved in wood? Is there some alternative interior design? And, if so, will the grips still attach tightly & securely without any movement in use?
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If KSD would post pictures of the left and right side grip interiors, I think we could figure out how they install and are removed. Still waiting for pictures.
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Hogue uses the same kind of block w/ 2 small screws...... but also metal "clips" that fit under the frame to lock the front of the grips in place......
Will be in line for a set for my 4566... and maybe a set for my Beretta 92 Compact.
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I found this photo online. I don't think it is a 3rd gen grip, but perhaps someone can figure out what holds the halves together.
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I found this photo online. I don't think it is a 3rd gen grip, but perhaps someone can figure out what holds the halves together.
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I suspect the four screws that bolt the grips to the frame are what hold the halves together. If the 3rd gens used screws none of this would be an issue.
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I suspect the four screws that bolt the grips to the frame are what hold the halves together. If the 3rd gens used screws none of this would be an issue.
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I think that they are actually the pins that were mentioned earlier in the thread.
Pins and glue to hold the halves together, a Hogue like block to replace the main spring cup, and then a pin to hold the grips to the frame. At least for the 3rd Gen guns.
It appears that the grips don't index on the front of the frame as do the factory grips and to a lesser extent the Hogues.
It will be interesting to see if they sit still on the frame without that.
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Actually, it makes sense, now, after looking at the OP's photos. The grips are one piece and they index under the beavertail and pivot forward until the "fingers" on the backstrap line up with the holes in the grips. There is nothing to hold the grips tight in the front - no fingers as on the factory or Hogue grips so there is no need for the grips to flex or be two pieces.
The OP mentioned a couple of steel pins. I'm not sure where they are, but I'm guessing they are in the aft end and are not visible. Probably to stiffen the two pieces and to index them in position when gluing them.
From the looks of these, everything appears to be very precise and probably cut on a CNC router. I'm guessing these grips don't need to be locked in at the front as long as the wood is well seasoned.
If it is CNC work, it would open up all sorts of possabilities for customization as modifications are done on the computer. Simple to change the checkering, add logos or initials, inlays, etc. Curved or straight backstraps would be simple.
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Nice.......... one of the issues many of us have with wood grips on double stack guns is the increase in "thickness"...... could you give us a measurement on the overall thickness of the grips on that 5906?
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The grips look very nice, looking forward to getting a set for my CS9.
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Anyone received theirs yet?
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I might have been the first guy to buy some and I haven't gotten mine yet. I ordered them on the 29th so maybe any day now. I promise to post some pics just as soon as they arrive. KSD did give an estimate of some time after the 10th for delivery so he has communicated clearly about shipping time, I'm not worried.
I'd like to get some customized ones if these turn out to be a great fit. In have a personal logo I designed that I'd love to see him integrate into a set just for me.
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Thanks for the update.
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5096 overall thickness: 32mm.
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Is no one going to comment on the gold plated accessories? Nicely done including the mag catch, trigger pin and grip pin.
That pistol just cries out for a BBQ to show it off.
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Looks good. Reminds me of the Taurus bling back in the day.
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the more I see these grips the better I like them ....as soon as we get a positive report from a forum member on the stability on the frame under live fire conditions I am all over a set................those 5906 grips with the S&W medallion are killer......the medallion on the factory replica grip may be a little too much......but that's just one mans opinion........KSD...more than a few requests for a single stack 9 version...once you get your feet on the ground .....is that a possibility??
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These look so nice that I felt myself tempted to go out and find a nice 3rd 5904.
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wondering what the "feel" is on the Beretta and 4506 models, i have short fingers and don't want to spend money and time to find that they are too bulky.
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4506 overall thickness is 28mm.
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wondering what the "feel" is on the Beretta and 4506 models, i have short fingers and don't want to spend money and time to find that they are too bulky.
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IMO, the only way to avoid that is to try-before-you-buy and this doesn't seem like the kind of product for which that's often an option. Grips are like holsters - expect to end up with at least one drawer full of discards....
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Just measured my 4566 with hogue rubber grips........ 32mm
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Factory 6906 (compact 5906) grips are 32.75mm thick.
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With those measurements. We are more than fine.Thanks BAM-BAM.
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I know you're just ramping up production and I've asked before, but do you have any plans to make grips for the 391x series of 9mm compacts?
They are pretty popular, especially on this forum, and I think you'd see some demand.
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No problem..... the 4566 grips make sense wood vs Hogue Rubber.......
the 5906 grips......wood thinner than factory ????.....one of us has to be off......
I'm 99% sure the 5906 and 6906 frames are the same.....you can use a 5906 mag in a 6906.........won't be able to double check my number until tomorrow.......
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The 6996 trip is shorter. A 5906 mag will fit and work fine, but will stick out the bottom of mag well.
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No problem..... the 4566 grips make sense wood vs Hogue Rubber.......
the 5906 grips......wood thinner than factory ????.....one of us has to be off......
I'm 99% sure the 5906 and 6906 frames are the same.....you can use a 5906 mag in a 6906.........won't be able to double check my number until tomorrow.......
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The 6996 trip is shorter. A 5906 mag will fit and work fine, but will stick out the bottom of mag well.
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We/I am looking at overall thickness..... of the grips/guns..........I grabbed the 6906 cus it was handy....... I think the grip frames and factory grips are the same thickness.....
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We made the grips for 3913 series.Pictures are coming tomorrow or next day.They are working on couple diffrent design.Factory look with laser engraved logo,Factory look with medallion and orthopedic one.Cs9 is coming out same time.yes 5906 is 32 mm.
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5906 grips are attached to wood blocks.Those wood blocks are 25mm wide.So I add another 7mm.3.5 mm each side.Total is 32mm.if 5906 s frame is 26mm wide than We should add another mm.I don't have 5906 with me right now.
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Got it. I just didn't realize that you were talking about thickness and not overall size. I think you're right.
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Thanks. I can't wait to see what they look like.
I suspect that the CS9 grips will be very, very, popular as well.
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We made the grips for 3913 series.Pictures are coming tomorrow or next day.They are working on couple diffrent design.Factory look with laser engraved logo,Factory look with medallion and orthopedic one.Cs9 is coming out same time.yes 5906 is 32 mm.
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thank-you..............am I the only one that doesnt't know what the "orthopedic one" means?? as it relates to a grip design
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Pulled a 915........ grips and gun are 32.5 to 32.7mm thick (2" & 3" from the bottom)
.......grips are 3.25mm thick (bottom edge)
.........frame is 25.27 thick at (bottom edge)
There is 1mm in there.........guessing that the grips must be .5mm thicker towards the middle
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it is ready.39xx series.Stock item is walnut.Rosewoods and Santos's are custom.The one with medallions are also ready I will upload other pictures tomorrow.
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These are absolutely gorgeous stocks, no two ways about it.
In looking at -all- the different guns represented... I can't possibly see any way that the logos and emblems are licensed. I'll be the first to admit that I have no idea how such copyright restrictions are applied and enforced but if I were a betting man, I would say to "get 'em while you can" because some of these companies are well known for spending their time & energy protecting their properties. S&W, for one, chases down websites that host .pdf versions of their factory owner's manuals.
Now this could be because S&W wishes to ENSURE that any/every end user always has THE most up to date version... or it could be that they take their rights seriously and pursue those rights to great lengths.
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