Just getting around to posting this one. I bought a like new in box Model 469 at the local gun show this past week end. It looks to be unfired IMO. Please excuse my picture quality, it really does not do the pistol justice. According to my copy of SCSW, it dates from 1986. I like the 3rd gen pistols, but this 469 was too good to pass up. I paid $360 OTD. Maybe not a super deal, but I think pretty good considering new pistol prices these days.