How common(rare) are the 3914LS to come by? Value range of one in good condition, 2 mags, no box? Thanks in advance!

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David

Those are fairly rare, as they were made only for about one year in the 1990-1991 time frame. I have no clue on value.

For more info, see the article I wrote here:

The S&W Model 3913 series pistols...

John

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I paid $680 a few months back fore my 3914LS. It came with 1 magazine. I bought 2 more Pro-Mag magazines for it and replaced the guts of them with parts from Numrich.
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[QUOTE=Blackbarry;139088583]I paid $680 a few months back fore my 3914LS. It came with 1 magazine. I bought 2 more Pro-Mag magazines for it and replaced the guts of them with parts from Numrich.

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Thanks for the input...nice looking LS. Are the grips KSD's?

[quote=Dparker;139088589]Yes they are. It came that way. The grips feel good in the hand and there is no perception of slipping when firing. Speaking of firing, be prepared for a long trigger pull in Da and a much shorter pull when SA. The trigger resets to the long pull and there is quite a bit of take-up before engaging resistance for the SA fire.

[quote=Blackbarry;139088613]That doesn't sound right. My 3913NL re-sets to short pull, as it should (you ostensibly have the same mechanism). You might want to get in touch with S&W or a good gunsmith to correct that. I would find that unacceptable.

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[quote=Blackbarry;139088613]ok...sumpin don't seem right...."long trigger pull in DA"..ok sounds normal...."much shorter pull when SA"..again sounds normal....."trigger resets to the long pull"..wait..what?..how can it be both?...is this your first TDA?...no disrespect intended but maybe your perception of where your trigger resets is way too far forward....why not clear your gun of any live rounds...then recheck for live rounds again...pull the trigger in DA..while holding the trigger back..rack the slide..then slowly release said trigger and feel where you reset actually is....on ALL. my 3rd. gens it is very short and crisp...very nice NL by the way

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To all who've commented on my description of the trigger pull discrepancy:

In DA, the long pull quickly engages the resistance necessary to cock and fire. There's a long trigger travel before actual release of the hammer to fire. In SA, there definitely is a shorter reset (keeping your finger off the trigger), but there is "take-up travel" (much lighter resistance) prior engaging the sear and providing enough pressure to cause the hammer to drop. This is my first DA/SA firearm. I am well experienced with 1911 type SA only guns. There is nothing wrong with my 3914LS.

Oh Great........ another Unicorn to chase..........18DAI talking about his and now Blackberry with pictures...................................AAAAGGGGgggggggg!!!!

I bought mine in "fair" condition with 4 mags for $300, which I thought was a steal. My 3913 is in great condition, and I wanted to replace it with a darker finish and something not so pristine. My prayers were answered. While I would've preferred a 3914NL, I wasn't going to say no at that price.

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Not sure if I confused some...but I'm asking about a 3914LS..not a 3913LS...I have a 3913, 3913NL, 3914 & 3914NL....just ran across this 3914LS (and had never seen one)...I've seen a lot of 3913LS's...was just curious of the 3914LS availability and value

Thanks and cheers!!!
David

My reply was confusing as well. I'm referring to my 3914LS. I also have a standard 3913 that it replaced as a carry pistol. Apologies for the vague wording, future fellow LS owner!

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Dave I have a 3914LS but have yet to even see a 3914NL. I am quite sure the NL is far less available than the LS.

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What parts you need for mag,

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Thanks mbliss57. I stumbled across a 3914NL couple weeks ago...just have never seen a 3914LS

Not half as nice as Kenny Brook's pistol, I bought this 3914LS as a police trade-in a few years ago. It certainly has some miles on it, but the interior surfaces aren't nearly as tired looking as the outside. I paid about $400 with three magazines and a duty holster of dubious value. I like it so much I'm thinking about sending it to Robar for one of their black finishes.



In fact, here's the ad right here: Smith & Wesson Model 3914 9mm Police Trade-ins with Holster | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore They make it sound like there is a possibility of more being available.

You need the butt plate (you can get the curved one), the Spring, the Magazine Catch, and the Follower. The spring came with the catch attached for no extra cost. The Follower is far more substantial than the Pro-mag one. The hole in the Pro-mag butt plate does not fit the S&W catch (off centering of holes). Some silicone dry lube and the rebuilt magazine works wonderfully. It does extend down a little more, but that makes it a more comfortable grip for large hands.

The issue I had was finding a 3914LS in "very good" condition. They are somewhat scarce and I looked for several years at gun shows to match up with my wife's 3913LS. It seemed that the 3914LS slides always showed a fair amount of use even when they were supposedly not carried "very much". Also on GB they tended to look more used than actual. I passed on a couple that would have been fine but the slides would have to be "re blued". I do not recall ever looking at one that had the original box. Eventually, I lucked into a nice one (no box) at a collector gun show. And now my wife has seen the wood grips...and said WOW ! Hope you find one that meets your needs and enjoy.

I have a 3914NL. I got it off the auction board a few years back. It had been stored improperly and the slide rusted and pitted. It was VERY hard to prevent rust on that slide.

A few months back I picked up a very good condition top end off the auction board forcit. Seller didnt know it was a LS/NL slide. Had it listed as simply a 3914. At least one other person knew what it was and drove the price up on me.

No matter, I got it and it returns the gun to its former glory. These 3914NL and LS guns are the finest single stack 9mm carry guns made. By anyone. IMO of course.

I consider them the direct descendants of the ASP pistols. Regards 18DAI

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What's the difference between the 3914NL slide and the 3914 slide, 18?

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At the muzzle the 3914NL/LS slide has two bevels cut on either side. They are cut front to back and slanted. It gives it a different appearance than the standard 3914 slide.

Im not sure if it was done to aid reholstering (I suspect it was) or if it was cosmetic to blend the slide to the slanted dust cover of the frame. Either way, it is noticeable if you look at the two side by side. Regards 18DAI

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I think I'm going to put you on the spot here this morning 18DAI if you don't mind. Maybe I'll learn something today.

I've seen the statement made before and it has always confused me a bit. What is it about the 3914LS/NL (specifically) that relates back to the ASP pistol that doesn't also relate to the entire 3913/3914/908/908S line (and even the CS9 if you want to add that)?

Not trying to be argumentative here at all, but as a big fan of the entire 3900 series, I have not understood the draw of the NL & LS models other than due to their relative rarity and enhanced cosmetics.

It sounds like I'm missing something and I'd like to know what it is. Maybe it will help me get over the good wife's "no prior approval required" spending cap if I can just explain to her why the NL & LS aren't just prettier versions (to some people) of the more common 3900-series pistols.

Since I already own a gaggle of the latter, she is having a hard time trying to figure out why on earth I need another one... and, in fact, one that would easily bust right through our pre-agreed spending cap!

Single side decocker - which, like the early production 3913s and 3914s is thinned - AND the reduced profile slide stop. In addition to being flattened/thinned, the slide stop on the LS/NL Models also has a bevel cut at the front. Unlike ANY of the other 39XX series guns.

Combined with the bevel cuts on the slide, these enhancements make the NL/LS variants the thinnest of the 39XX series guns. Sleekest and best looking too, IMHO.

The compactness and feel of them reminds me very much of the ASP pistol. More so than my other 39XX series guns. All of which you know I love dearly. Regards 18DAI

Edited to add: I specifically never include the CS9 in my discussions of the 39XX series guns. While they are indeed nice guns and nicer than anything currently being produced by the same factory, they are not as well made as the 39XX guns (no barrel lugs - the barrel hood locks up with the slide) and the one I briefly owned offered me no advantage over a standard 39XX gun that I could decern. Other than being VERY SLIGHTLY shorter and a wee bit lighter.

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Thanks 18DAI! But I think I know what she's going to say to that!

"Just pretend your 908 is a 3914NL and done"!

"Put a set of gray grips on your 908S and done"!

Closest I have come so far to an LS/NL was a 3913NL at a show for $600+Tx. I passed but later convinced myself to buy it at the next show. But at the next show, it was gone. That was probably a good thing for me anyway because I had not sought nor received the mandatory "pre-approval" for busting through the spending limit.

Anyway, I don't see it happening pre-election and I'm not making any plans at all for after the election. I will, however, continue to live vicariously through other members of Team 3rd Gen as I have to do anyway for PC guns, 10mm models and Melonite/integral rail specials.

Was looking forward to 18DAI's reply of TTSH's question...

Agree with his assessment..... but would add.......

IMHO the 3913/14s were guns that replicated the "Chopped 39s" of the 1980s ( with 3rd G improvements) like the Trapper or Behlert's.... whereas the slightly later LS/NLs like the ASP with it's funky sights, slide cuts and see through grips took the base gun to a new aesthetic level........

the 3913/14s are great guns...... but an NL (w/ checkered Hogue wood grips of course) is the gun Bond would choose....because they're as good as any 39xx but looks so much coooooler!!!!!!

Oh Brother!!! This is how I am supposed to convince the good wife of the necessity of me busting through the spending cap???

If Bond were ever going to use a 3rd Gen it would have already happened. I'm afraid the "new" Bond has gone over to the dark side and become a plastic gun guy.

That's an awesome explanation. Now I have a reason to prefer my 3914LS over my standard 3913!

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And don't forget Bam's flimsy "Bond" excuse!

Actually in some of the " New Bond Books" from the 80/90s Bond did carry a ASP..........................and in the last two movies he's back to a PPK for everyday carry!

Start telling her you really really want an ASP, Devel or Trapper for your "few remaining good years"........ then next time you see a 3913/14NL for sale tell her you're willing to "settle" for a NL cus time is short.......and appealing to her CFO side... that's a saving of about $2000!!!!!!

TTSH I saw a nice 3913NL up on the auction board this AM for not too much opening bid. May be worth a shot. Regards 18DAI

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The "New Bond Books" are even worse than the "New Bond Movies" IMHO. I believe Ian Fleming is rolling over in his grave every time a new book by some unknown second or third rate author hits Amazon. And as for the movies... they are fine modern adventure films but they are NOT James Bond movies in my hideously old man's opinion.

And yes, my remaining time left above ground level grows shorter with every passing day. So many more guns to buy and so little time and money left to do it. Oh the pains of growing old.

I just lost a Model 3953 last night on that certain large firearms auction site... probably to another member of Team 3rd Gen. I have learned that low opening prices don't necessarily translate well to low winning bid prices.

But I'll take a look anyway. You never know.

LOL....TTSH I keep telling you..... "you're going to outlive us all"

Have to agree the "new" books are junk........ but prefer Craig's Bond to Roger Moore's comedies.........

Oh, I wouldn't put any money on that! The local undertaker calls the house almost every other week just to see if I am "ready" for him yet.

The movies evolved. We all have our favorites. Things did get a little silly with the Roger Moore ones but he wasn't the worst Bond. That dubious honor is still reserved for Timothy Dalton.

Craig isn't Bond to me. Not even close. Maybe you young folks can handle the stretch in credibility. Being as old & crusty as I am and having been a Bond fan for half a century, I can't.

". . . What you gonna do when you wanna sing the blues and you know it don't come easy?"

An old Ringo Starr song metaphorically speaking to my chase of the 3914 . . . any and all.

Years ago the buyer (and incoming FFL transfer paperwork guy) for my still-favored LGS once spoke of his favorite carry piece, the 3913.

I had no clue they even existed at that point. Well, I once had no clue what 2+2 meant, either, so I went about learning of the 3913 and, coincidentally, 3914. (But I'm still having a problem with 2+2.)

The S&W Model 39 (all shades) is my most-collected piece. If sheer numbers serve as an indication of favoritism, the 469-through-6904/06 comes in second. By only one fewer comes the 3913/14. Indeed, I've got three 3913 Lady Smiths sitting about a meter away from me now, with one other LS two-meters away in teardown. I've one 3913 NL and a couple of standard 3913s, along with a 3953TSW and 3954TSW.

But those 39s having a "14" (other than the immediately aforementioned, which started production only after the 3913/3914 altogether ceased production) are just tough to find . . . at least in the condition I most favor: virtually or completely unused with accompanying boxes and, in the case of the LS, a Lady Smith-specific carry bag.

The pursuit of a primo 3914 has proved most daunting. P.J. Fjestad's Blue Book of Gun Values Online has the base 3914 as being sold from 1990-1995; the 3914 NL and LS from 1990 and discontinued in 1991; and the /14 TSW introduced and discontinued in 1990.

Reading only slightly between the lines, I have said and I'm stickin' to it: "There aren't many of those things out there - in any condition."

Doggone it.

Later.

I seem to remember a post on this forum (with pictures) about a 3914TSW with a production date of 2012. I'll bet that there is a story behind that and it's an interesting one.

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Vigil617, here you go, a picture of the different slide configurations at the muzzle end. The black one have the same configuration.

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