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Model 41 Engraved Target Grips
Looking to get more info on a set of engraved target grips I inherited. I know they are for a 41 due to the other extra parts and manuals that were with them in the same bundle. A local dealer was willing to trade straight up grips for a pistol I was looking at. He was really fast to offer, too fast.
Anyone have any info? Did any 41's come with engraved target grips, special editions or something?
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Engraved target grips?
You will need to post good clear pic's of them.
Not something that I've ever heard of.
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can't see then ( I do not have a log in for bushcraft)
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They have some fancy carving. Is there any identifiable markings on the inside of them?
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SWAG - the 41 folder is very early copy. based on that, and designs, would guess grips from Philippines possibly made for military person that had the pistol over there - probably mid 50s to early 60s. Probably a one-of-a-kind.
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Welcome to the forum.
I have seen a few sets very similar if not the same in shape, but with different checkering and patterning. Possibly Sanderson?
Please post a few more pictures showing the back this will tell us for sure they are for a model 41. Other angles and any marks that might look like initials numbers or letter.
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Wow - those are beautiful!
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Tom Beckwith, whom I've learned is very knowledgeable about 41's, has nailed it. These are aftermarket grips, and beautifully done. If you don't want them, I'd be more than happy to take them off your hands.
Thanks for posting the picture!
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Myriad - we would all enjoy better pictures but you can't host them on bushcrafter and have them be visible here. Either use another hosting site or add them to your original post like you added the one picture.
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Here's the picture he posted. Shows up fine for me, but maybe it's the way he posted it?
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Wild! I like the grips that came with my PC Model 41. I think grips like those posted would probably to the job, providing they fit one's hand/s precisely.
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Just now seeing this...I think you may be right...there was a lot of that in the far east...heard stories from instructors/drill sergeants while I was in Basic and AIT in mid - 1971 about how the locals would make just about anything you wanted, from both discarded brass art'y & main gun casings and Coke/Pepsi cans to local stone/wood...looks like some of the pictures I've seen of locally made Barong and other bladed weapon grips.
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No numbers, words or makers marks. Here is a pict of the inside, as requested.
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05-18-2016, 04:37 PM
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Detail pict of the carving.
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These are beautiful grips and would look awesome on an engraved model 41! Very nice!
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There was a competitor name Bob Ross who shot a M41, loaded single shot, for international Free Pistol matches back in late 50s. He had a set of grips made by Steve Herrett, back when he would personally make grips.
I can tell you a couple things. First, the mounting hardware for the adjustable palm shelf is identical to what Hämmerli used from 1948 until the early 70s. Second, the Oak leaf style carving is also very close to what Hämmerli did on special order.
I'll try to send a pic later.
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Carved M-41 Grips
Does anyone else think the wood may be Rosewood? The last posted photograph made the grain a little more visible and looked like Rosewood. Of course this is just above a "WAG" but thought food anyway.
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Just following up on my previous post. More on the Hämmerli connection.
They are very close to my Hämmerli Olympia grips, at least in style.
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Another view...
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And a "look under the hood"....
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Here's my Hämmerli Lux grade Free Pistol. You can see the Oak Leaf carving style on the grips. This is the only one I've ever encountered in Left Hand.
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I expect that these grips will sell for a very high dollar if they were on a auction site.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 6string
Here's my Hämmerli Lux grade Free Pistol. You can see the Oak Leaf carving style on the grips. This is the only one I've ever encountered in Left Hand.
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I think you are right the carving and background technique look identical. I did not know they made accessories for guns other than their own.
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I wonder if someone else was making them for Hammerli?
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The stocks in post 14 and 19 appear to me to be from the same stock maker.
The pattern left by the mechanical cutter (post 14) that can be seen in my mind throw weight to a production stockmaker like Herrett or Sanderson.
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Hi Ed,
Back then, Hämmerli did all their own grips and stocks. If I recall correctly, they even had an in-house wood mill. With the early free pistols, they weren't sold as stock items. You had to order from the factory and fill out an order form specifying a number of preferences and include a tracing of you hand. Totally custom work.
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