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06-15-2016, 03:55 AM
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Question about the trigger pull of a 6946.
Hi all.
I really have fallen in love with my "New to me" 6906. But the new modern thinking in the self defense world seems to center around having a pistol with no safety's, like a Glock or a M&P.
I do not like Glocks, they simply do not fit my hand, I did try the M&P, wile it did feel better, it not as good a fit as my 6906.
Well tonight I scored a 6946 DAO off gun broker for 310 plus shipping.
I have not had the chance to try one of these DAO in person, my question to the group here is, is the trigger the same as the 6906 in DA mode, or is it different?
Can anyone tell me how many pounds the pull is?
I know that I will have it by the end of the week and find out for myself, but I just wanted to ask as this will most likely be my new EDC pistol.
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06-15-2016, 07:25 AM
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If the trigger action is like a 5946 (which I have handled), it is like a relatively light/smooth DA revolver with extra takeup at the beginning, and lighter than the DA pull of a 6906.
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06-15-2016, 10:35 AM
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I can't compare the trigger on the 6946 and 6906 to assist. I had an issued 6946 in a LE job that was both used for on/off duty. I started my police career with a Model 10, then a 64. Finished up with a Gock 17 then a Glock 22. The 6946 trigger was smooth and easy to manipulate with accuracy and speed. It reminded me of the Model 10 without the ability to stage it as well as the 10. I was happy with the pistol and now carry a lightly worked over 3953 (same holsters, thank goodness). Except when I go to Baltimore, then it's the Glock 19 and extra mags. I think you will be pleased. I found a magazine base plate from a 5906 mag and replaced the curved one on the 6946 for better concealment.
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06-15-2016, 10:07 PM
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relatively easy to improve the DA trigger pull on a 6900 series, several threads related to. requires a complete take down though.
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06-15-2016, 11:17 PM
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I have the 6906 & 6946. IMHO,the 6946 is the winner without question.
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06-15-2016, 11:46 PM
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The trigger on a DAO is not the same as the DA pull on a TDA. The pull on my 6906 is longer and breaks later at around 12 lbs. but smooth all the way through. My 6946 has a shorter pull that breaks sooner (not quite as far rearward) at around 9 lbs. Very smooth and consistent all the way through. You may already know but the shorter pull comes from the fact that the DAO stages in a half cock position. This eliminates the double strike capability of the TDA but improves the trigger in terms of length of pull and perhaps weight. I don't concern myself as I feel that is a good trade. The TDA is the only trigger that I'm familiar with that gives the DS capability...not in striker fired or 1911's. Not even revolvers to some degree because a second pull goes to the next round. To me it is a non-issue...matters more to others.
I see no need to attempt to change the trigger...I like it the way it is. I appreciate a heavier smooth trigger in a carry gun. My only suggestion is that you not try to "stage" the trigger when firing. I shoot my mine best when I press straight through without pausing. Not rushed or hurried...just pressed through without staging. If I stop and start again I tend to move the muzzle. Besides, as a carry gun it's not likely that you will be staging the trigger.
I really like the DAO guns and my 6946 has become my EDC replacing my 6904. You will like the smoother profile. Post with your impressions when it arrives.
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06-16-2016, 03:23 PM
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The trigger on a DAO is not the same as the DA pull on a TDA. The pull on my 6906 is longer and breaks later at around 12 lbs. but smooth all the way through. My 6946 has a shorter pull that breaks sooner (not quite as far rearward) at around 9 lbs. Very smooth and consistent all the way through. You may already know but the shorter pull comes from the fact that the DAO stages in a half cock position. This eliminates the double strike capability of the TDA but improves the trigger in terms of length of pull and perhaps weight. I don't concern myself as I feel that is a good trade. The TDA is the only trigger that I'm familiar with that gives the DS capability...not in striker fired or 1911's. Not even revolvers to some degree because a second pull goes to the next round. To me it is a non-issue...matters more to others.
I see no need to attempt to change the trigger...I like it the way it is. I appreciate a heavier smooth trigger in a carry gun. My only suggestion is that you not try to "stage" the trigger when firing. I shoot my mine best when I press straight through without pausing. Not rushed or hurried...just pressed through without staging. If I stop and start again I tend to move the muzzle. Besides, as a carry gun it's not likely that you will be staging the trigger.
I really like the DAO guns and my 6946 has become my EDC replacing my 6904. You will like the smoother profile. Post with your impressions when it arrives.
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I agree with every word you said. The only point where I differ in the slightest,.....is that I lead my "...." with a ",". Otherwise I think you were speaking from my mind.
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06-22-2016, 03:06 AM
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The trigger on a DAO is not the same as the DA pull on a TDA. The pull on my 6906 is longer and breaks later at around 12 lbs. but smooth all the way through. My 6946 has a shorter pull that breaks sooner (not quite as far rearward) at around 9 lbs. Very smooth and consistent all the way through. You may already know but the shorter pull comes from the fact that the DAO stages in a half cock position. This eliminates the double strike capability of the TDA but improves the trigger in terms of length of pull and perhaps weight. I don't concern myself as I feel that is a good trade. The TDA is the only trigger that I'm familiar with that gives the DS capability...not in striker fired or 1911's. Not even revolvers to some degree because a second pull goes to the next round. To me it is a non-issue...matters more to others.
I see no need to attempt to change the trigger...I like it the way it is. I appreciate a heavier smooth trigger in a carry gun. My only suggestion is that you not try to "stage" the trigger when firing. I shoot my mine best when I press straight through without pausing. Not rushed or hurried...just pressed through without staging. If I stop and start again I tend to move the muzzle. Besides, as a carry gun it's not likely that you will be staging the trigger.
I really like the DAO guns and my 6946 has become my EDC replacing my 6904. You will like the smoother profile. Post with your impressions when it arrives.
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Thank you for your comments, I whole heartily agree with you.
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Okay, today FedEx finally stopped dragging there feet (It was sitting in Portland for two days) and they delivered it to my FFL. I picked her up at lunch, it seemed to have more holster wear then the pictures showed, but hey, It's a tool not a Talisman.
When I got off work, it was too late to make it to the indoor range, so I headed home and took it down to inspect, clean and lube it up. I found the recoil spring was twisted and worn out, good thing I had a brand new 16 pound Wolf spring waiting at home for her.
No cracks, the slide wear was minimal. I just needed to clean and reblue the sights. (I like them black with white dots).
Being here in the Northwest it doesn't get dark until like 10pm this time or year, I headed out to the state forest area in the coast range to run a couple mags through it to get a feel for her and to make sure she will function.
I made it out to an area I shoot at, and ran two mags through, not really trying to test accuracy, more to see and feel how she shoots. The trigger was smooth and quicker then I thought it would be, very pleasant.
24 rounds of 124 gr ball (Federal) and it ran perfect.
The 16 pound spring had this thing feeling like I was shooting softball, just nice and smooth.
I got home and cleaned her, loaded her with Federal Hydroshock and put her on my nightstand, and my 6906 is now in the safe.
I did go onto Brownells and order a new grip (There only 19.99) and I think she is good to be my EDC.
This Sunday I will put a couple hundred through to get a true feeling for her.
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I'm not the least bit surprised to hear you like it. I can put up a very nice 2" to 3" group at 7 yrds without any fliers firing fairly quickly...I get the occasional flier in SA from my 6904. I think it's easier to unintentionally anticipate the break in SA. DAO's don't temp you with that...front post on target and press on through. It goes when it goes.
Slow fire results are limited by the shooter so 1" is about as good as I can do.
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The SW99c AS is DA/SA striker fired. It works just like a 3rd gen with second strike. It has a better trigger than my 3 generations. I have changed to the SW99as or P99as for my carry guns.
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06-26-2016, 09:28 AM
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The SW99c AS is DA/SA striker fired. It works just like a 3rd gen with second strike. It has a better trigger than my 3 generations. I have changed to the SW99as or P99as for my carry guns.
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I have no doubt the SW99 is a fine gun although I've never had one in hand. I like all kinds of guns so I would surely like that one as well.
I have M&P's and am fine with striker fired but haven't considered a TDA polymer gun. If I have to start a new section in my safe it will be your fault...or credit. Regardless, the 3rd gens will always be some of my favorites.
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Well, I got the chance to get to the range last Sunday, put 100 rounds through her to get a good feel for her, these are two 1 minute drill, 20 shots in under 1 minute at around 20 yards (It was between 15 and 25, the indoor range's air was blowing on the target at 15, so I moved out a bit) As you can see, I need a bit more time to get my trigger work down right, but I am getting there. The new grip from Brownells came in and I pulled her down, use the new Hoppy's gun medic to flush out all the years and gunk, re-lubes with Medium gun oil (Mil spec.) and frog lube for the main spring and slide areas.
All I need do now is get a set of night sites and remove the evil mag disconnect and she should be good to go.
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