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A couple of years ago I had an XS Big Dot installed.... by a professional gunsmith. $80.00 well spent.
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I've removed and installed sights on M&Ps and SDs. The first couple with a block of wood and a hammer. Then I got a MGW slide pusher and the work got easier.

One M&P sight was so tight that I ended up using a steel punch -- knowing it would destroy the sight -- to knock it out. And I was worried throughout that I would ruin the slide. They cost $300 for an M&P!

When it came time to replace the small sight on my Mdl 915, I sent it to Novak's. There was some milling required to fit the new Low-Mount sight. I also had Novak do the recent replacement of the old sights on my Mdl 5906 and install new Novak Low-Mounts. Their charge for installation of the front and rear sights, with no mods required, is only $35. Well worth it!

We also have a very good gunsmith in Northern Virginia, Sandy Garrett of Northern Virginia Gunworks, and I had him replace old sights on a P239 for a reasonable price.

So, bottom line, I'll tinker with the known and near-difficult, but let the harder work be done by the professionals! Great thread.
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One question though: does LocTite-ing the front sight prevent any future adjustments?
Yea but... If the front sight is not dead nutz on the centerline it makes my brain itch Plus... you do your windage adjustment by drifting the backsight that's secured with a pair or grub screws.

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but with tritium night sights, all the hand fitting comments apply, but you do not want to drive the sight into the dove tail with a hammer and drift punch.
Not entirely so. I'll grant you that tritium lamp sights may not be quite as rugged as regular irons, they are non the less a lot tougher than you'd think. They're engineered to survive years of getting the snot beat out of 'em atop a pistol slide so a few taps to drift them into place is no problem.

What you should never do whether using a sight pusher or a punch is shove on the side of sight blade. Deformation of the sight blade or snapping it clean off (as happened here) does risk damaging the lamp.

I also point out that the installation instructions supplied by XS specifically prohibit the use of a sight pusher. And...in point of fact XS even supplies a small delrin drift punch with their sight sets (the short one in this pic, I made the long one). With directions to drift the sight into place after properly hand fitting.


I'm compelled to point out had digiroc set his sight pusher aside and used the drift punch supplied by XS and followed their installation instructions for hand fitting. He likely would not have had to send the thing to me

For this job I used this big chunk of delrin because I couldn't find that little drift at the time. I "beat" on it with a Picard 100 gram cross pein hammer. Hmmm can using a 100 gram hammer actually be considerd beating? Does 100 grams even qualify to be called a hammer? Ugh nevemind


And... here's where we're at now.

Cleaned up all the green schmooo and applied a little blueing to minimize the blemishes to the finish up front.


The only sign something was amiss is this ding from (I guess) punch slipping. Nothing to be done about that unless we want to get involved in welding and re-doing the nitriding $$$


Backsight fitted and installed.


So, all done here, A couple closing comments:

I don't care what contraption you use to install your sights just don't skip the hand fitting. I know I'm being repetitious but you must always fit the sight to the gun. Some will be good to go right out of the package and others with require hours of tedium to achieve a proper fit.

I have a couple sight pusher tools including this old thing.

I find I only use a pusher if I need to precisely drift a backsight a small amount to correct a windage error, otherwise, for the most part they sit around collecting dust.

You'll find some sights just don't play well with a pusher. Primarily those with sloped or beveled sides like you see on these XS Big Dots. I have some special screws with swiveling pads I use with epj's pusher but they are not terribly strong. You'll sometimes find there's no other option but to drift into place with a non-marring punch.

Oh and did I mention hand fitting? Don't skip it. If you need a 5lb drilling hammer and a foot long brass drift to install a foresight... You're doing it wrong!

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