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Funny thing. I've had a 3566 Limited for a number of years. I only got to shoot it a few times before it became difficult to find ammo. So I got a 9x19 barrel for it and it just functioned poorly with the stock spring. I put the gun away and sort of forgot about it. A job transfer/move, work load and rising ammo prices put shooting on the back burner.

There have been a few mentions of 3566s lately and it had me in the garage digging mine from the very bottom of the safe. When I opened the box there were two new lighter springs in the box. I don't recall when I got them but it must have been about the time of the move.

So, 9mm barrel is in, 14lb spring is in, ammo prices are down, now retired so I might actually have enough spare time to give this thing another try.. It felt pretty good in my hands again.
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Welcome back and Congratulations on becoming reacquainted with one of the finest looking pistols the Performance Center ever produced

While the 3566s in any form make for soft shooting 9MMs, they are spectacularly flat shooting with the 356TSW cartridge. I was carrying one of the snubbies today for a class








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Might just have to go to the effort to trim 9x23 brass. Have dies and such and a few boxes of factory ammo but I think the factory boxes of ammo are worth about as much as the gun. I'll save those for a museum display.

I did send a note to Starline asking if they might ever make another run of 356tsw brass but they haven't answered me yet.

I think with the Briley 9mm barrel and if I can get the spring issue sorted out, I'd essentially have a fancy "952" limited.. No 356tsw but still should be fun and cheap to shoot.
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I did send a note to Starline asking if they might ever make another run of 356tsw brass but they haven't answered me yet.
I have had in-depth talks with Starline about this at SHOT.

Starline will not be doing it, they see no demand that would justify them warehousing this item.
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Haha, you most definitely would not have a fancy "952 Limited", but you would have a dead-sexy blackened 5" PPC-9 with a more typical Bomar rear and "normal" front sight rather than the curious Aristocrat and matching tall front sight of the PPC-9.

The 952 is a modern, rechambered 52 but the 3566 Limited is more like a hand-built double stack single action target 3rd Gen.

It is numbingly gorgeous. All the PC pistols are beautiful, the 5" guns are the best looking and the 3566 Limited is the King of the heap, in my opinion.
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I have the compact and I too wish someone would resurrect the .356. Nonetheless, has anyone sorted out springs to use with the 9mm barrel?


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Believe it or not, a few people in the industry are working on it...
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That's very interesting. More information... please?
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That's very interesting. More information... please?
I wish I could say more at this time, but the projects are still in the preliminary stages.
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That's very interesting. More information... please?
You do not want information to get leaked out too early. Speculation ends up running wild

How many years have we been hearing that the Bren Ten is coming back.

So don't hold your breath.
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Ugh, bringing up the Bren Ten is a terrible way to treat anyone who says they know about a project. The Bren Ten deal was such a train wreck.
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I wish I could say more at this time, but the projects are still in the preliminary stages.
You wouldn't be teasing us, would you?

Unless and until you can see your way clear to be at least a little more specific, I'm calling BS in hopes of goading you into sharing more about this.

How are you involved? Firearm side or ammo side? Surely you can describe in general terms what is going on and whether it appears to have a reasonable chance of coming to fruition as opposed to being some sort of .... I don't know.... "experiment."
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Like some of you I bought my full size 356TSW when they first became available. Plenty of ammo and Starline brass. Shot it at many matches. Then Clinton came along and many things changed, like 10 round mags. Right before the law got passed I purchased 10 custom shop mags, 5 have never been used. Myself and others that liked the 356 built 1911's with Briley barrels. Mine started life as a Colt 40 cal that was so unreliable that I almost gave it away. First I bought the Briley barrel and Caspian 9mm slide and went to work fitting the slide/barrel/frame assembly, beaver tail and checkered the front strap. Everything went great and the Colt was more accurate than the Smith. But one big problem, the Colt with the Briley barrel had a tighter chamber than the Smith. Reloaded Smith brass would not chamber in the Colt. I even ground short a Lee die to resize as low as possible. No luck. One time I purchased some reloaded 356 from the West coast and it to did not chamber in the Colt. Well anyway, now I just sort brass.
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Those are the first PC guns I can recall being aware of. They are beauties, and if they'd been chambered in 9mm I'd already have one. I'm a fan of the non-1911 PC guns and have had the 952, 952-1, and still have the 4" and 5" DPA 5906s. The .356 / 9mmX21.5mm was rule beater, but unfortunately, there is no magic or free lunch. With the same overall length, performance at any given pressure and bullet weight is the same as 9X19mm. Nothing at all wrong with that. Just that the regular old 9X19mm is the most popular center fire pistol cartridge on the planet, enjoys wide availability and benefits from the latest in factory ammunition bullet technology.
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You wouldn't be teasing us, would you?

Unless and until you can see your way clear to be at least a little more specific, I'm calling BS in hopes of goading you into sharing more about this.

How are you involved? Firearm side or ammo side? Surely you can describe in general terms what is going on and whether it appears to have a reasonable chance of coming to fruition as opposed to being some sort of .... I don't know.... "experiment."
Let's just say this much: our barrels will have a 356 TSW version.
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