Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols Other Smith & Wesson Semi-Automatic Pistols from the 1950's to Present


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 10-15-2017, 02:29 PM
wendal's Avatar
wendal wendal is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: kansas
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Liked 45 Times in 27 Posts
Default

Here is my 4006tsw.
I am very happy with mine. I am going to get a new recoil spring for it just to have.
I was hoping for a like new one but I happy with mine.
I would buy another.
Attached Thumbnails
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-4006-1-jpg   S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-4006-2-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #102  
Old 10-20-2017, 05:06 PM
cnette01 cnette01 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 178
Likes: 571
Liked 259 Times in 83 Posts
Default

Congrats Wendal! Where did you find your CHP 4006?

I know about Summit and Copper Custom, does anyone else know who may have these in stock? I don't use the big auction site, GB, so I'm looking for other options.
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 10-21-2017, 12:26 AM
wendal's Avatar
wendal wendal is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: kansas
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Liked 45 Times in 27 Posts
Default

I got mine on gunbroker.
I paid a tad more but was able to see the pictures before I bought it.
Only the 2 sources you mentioned have the 4006tsw that I know about.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #104  
Old 10-21-2017, 12:32 AM
rasmith3442's Avatar
rasmith3442 rasmith3442 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 186
Likes: 68
Liked 128 Times in 46 Posts
Default There is one on Armslist - Ohio

ARMSLIST - For Sale/Trade: Smith and Wesson 4006TSW CHP

S/F,

RAS
__________________
A man's got to know his limita
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 10-25-2017, 07:18 AM
smith46wesson's Avatar
smith46wesson smith46wesson is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Hanover, PA
Posts: 126
Likes: 37
Liked 61 Times in 38 Posts
Default

I'm hoping to pick one of these up. I like the idea of the machined rail and decock only.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #106  
Old 10-27-2017, 07:34 PM
cnette01 cnette01 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 178
Likes: 571
Liked 259 Times in 83 Posts
Default

Summit has them back in stock today. I put my order in, hoping to have it by the end of next week.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #107  
Old 10-28-2017, 12:00 AM
wendal's Avatar
wendal wendal is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: kansas
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Liked 45 Times in 27 Posts
Default

Be sure to give us a update and pictures.
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 10-31-2017, 12:45 PM
Chopperdoc Chopperdoc is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 35
Likes: 6
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sevens View Post
That's a fantastic post. One small nitpick and one question.

First, it sure isn't the trigger return spring that is missing, it is the trigger play spring. It's more than obvious that you know that, this was just a typo.

My question: is the CHP the largest single LE Org in the Nation? I always thought that was the NYPD but I have absolutely no idea. It would seem to make sense that even though NYC is the largest city in the world, it certainly isn't larger than the State of California.

Oh, one more comment. With ZERO intention of sounding like I have never cared for the TSW pistols... it simply doesn't seem like spending MILLIONS to upgrade from a 4006 to a 4006TSW just isn't much of an upgrade. I would think when you throw that massive amount of money at something, you'd be making a large-scale change. Such as moving from a DA/SA metal gun to current technology polymer striker fire. This move I understand. But millions to move to the TSW from the 4006? That's sounds nutty to me.

Of course it isn't real money, it's taxpayer funded, so maybe I have answered my own question... (sigh)

But yeah, fantastic post!
And we wonder why CA is broke!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #109  
Old 10-31-2017, 12:46 PM
Chopperdoc Chopperdoc is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 35
Likes: 6
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
Default

I ordered one from Summit Gun Broker yesterday. Looked today and they were out of stock. I guess I got lucky.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #110  
Old 10-31-2017, 03:47 PM
SOTVEN SOTVEN is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 332
Likes: 2,132
Liked 343 Times in 159 Posts
Default

though 40 is not one of the calibers i like, if i was on that side of the Atlantic, i would definately get one. for the sake of history!!!. the 4006, besides being the first pistol in that caliber, was also the first to score an le contract for this caliber. chp had ordered about 7000 of them for starters back in 1990 or 1991 afair.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #111  
Old 10-31-2017, 04:19 PM
SOTVEN SOTVEN is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 332
Likes: 2,132
Liked 343 Times in 159 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOTVEN View Post
though 40 is not one of the calibers i like, if i was on that side of the Atlantic, i would definately get one. for the sake of history!!!. the 4006, besides being the first pistol in that caliber, was also the first to score an le contract for this caliber. chp had ordered about 7000 of them for starters back in 1990 or 1991 afair.
and coming to think about it, it has been the only non1911 steel pistol that was too hard to backdown after the "wonder(what this *** is)plastics" dominated the market. the last dinosaur that would not surrender to the mice. almost 30 years service, and still a civilian market waiting for them. heirloom enough?
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #112  
Old 10-31-2017, 04:26 PM
SOTVEN SOTVEN is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 332
Likes: 2,132
Liked 343 Times in 159 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sevens View Post
Well I love the wealth of "insider" information and I also duly note that a typical .40cal pistol is more prone to wear than a typical 9mm or .45 pistol, but with that said, I'm chomping at the bit to hear some estimated round counts of what it takes (in the eyes of an agency armorer and/or procurement head) to approach the "end of service life" of an all-steel, full-size 3rd Gen.

I'll repeat, a .40 S&W chambered duty pistol should rationally have a shorter lifespan than a 9mm or .45cal counterpart, but I would expect the number to be HIGH.

So if we look at what has been discussed here (admittedly I am going from memory and not scrolling up) but these TSW's were put in to service when, around 11 years ago? And every specimen seemingly being released for public sale so far seems to show precious little use?

How many years did they use the 4006 before they went for the TSW's?

An alloy frame... it's "game on" for wear and possible life. But I suppose I am in the camp of folks who REALLY wants to see what a worn out full-size steel frame 3rd Gen looks like, because I haven't had the pleasure of seeing one yet.

And I try my best not to be overly skeptical all the time, but when it comes to government spending, my default is to raise an eyebrow. Absolutely, our sworn officers need solid equipment, I would never suggest otherwise. And while I only have the pleasure of owning two formerly issued 3rd Gens and that makes my tangible experience basically meaningless...

Bottom line: somebody show me some CHP 4006's (not these new TSW's) that are too old, too beat-up, and in need of being replaced.

If we think that integral rail 3rd Gens are a scarce beast, show me some end-of-life all-steel 3rd Gens, because I say those are far more scarce.
how can i put a second "like" on this post?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #113  
Old 11-01-2017, 10:53 PM
cnette01 cnette01 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 178
Likes: 571
Liked 259 Times in 83 Posts
Default

Summit has them back in stock, they just had not updated the item page. It is updated now and says back in stock. I called them today since I had not heard anything yet on the pre-order I placed with them. They processed my order today when I called. I'm looking forward to receiving it, but it will likely be next week now.
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 11-02-2017, 12:31 AM
TNZ71's Avatar
TNZ71 TNZ71 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: May 2016
Location: In transit
Posts: 774
Likes: 1,277
Liked 2,210 Times in 480 Posts
Default

I've gotten two from Mark at Summit. One was in very good condition and the other was in extremely good condition. Happy with both.
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-img_1056-jpg

S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-img_1197-jpg
Attached Thumbnails
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-img_1056-jpg   S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-img_1197-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 11-06-2017, 11:33 AM
justone justone is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Wonderful post, thank you, I'm buying one! I'm confused by this statement however: "only one of four models with an integral frame rail, the others being 4566TSW, 5906TSW, and 5946(-M)." When I look these other models up I see a "bolted on" type rail. It is my understanding that this CHP 4006TSW is the only model with an integrated rail. - Am I wrong?

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 11-06-2017, 01:44 PM
Fastbolt's Avatar
Fastbolt Fastbolt is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 4,350
Likes: 779
Liked 5,645 Times in 1,917 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justone View Post
Wonderful post, thank you, I'm buying one! I'm confused by this statement however: "only one of four models with an integral frame rail, the others being 4566TSW, 5906TSW, and 5946(-M)." When I look these other models up I see a "bolted on" type rail. It is my understanding that this CHP 4006TSW is the only model with an integrated rail. - Am I wrong?

Thanks!
The other steel-framed, full-size models listed also came with the machined, integral rails as an option.

For example, when we were ordering our last shipment of then-new 4566TSW's ('06-'07?), we were told we could have them changed over from the riveted rails to the machined, integral rails at no charge, if we wished. It was a late production option for LE agency customers.
__________________
Ret LE Firearms inst & armorer
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #117  
Old 11-06-2017, 02:07 PM
justone justone is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Thank you! So the other guns you listed are out there to be found somewhere with an integrated rail. Good to know so that I don't brag that my CHP 4006TSW is the only such creature! Thanks again!
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 11-06-2017, 03:06 PM
Fastbolt's Avatar
Fastbolt Fastbolt is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 4,350
Likes: 779
Liked 5,645 Times in 1,917 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justone View Post
Thank you! So the other guns you listed are out there to be found somewhere with an integrated rail. ...
They were offered and produced, but as I understand it, only for LE agency customers who were already S&W users.

They were produced at the end of 3rd gen LE production, listed in the LE/Military catalogs as an option. I suppose that any agencies who ordered them might eventually trade them in on new guns, and if so, they might end up on the used gun market.
__________________
Ret LE Firearms inst & armorer

Last edited by Fastbolt; 11-07-2017 at 03:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #119  
Old 11-16-2017, 06:04 PM
mrmike7189's Avatar
mrmike7189 mrmike7189 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 563
Likes: 1,350
Liked 335 Times in 188 Posts
Default

The NYPD just ditched the S&W 5946. there are NIB ones for sale at bass pro shops nationwide. i think glock19 and sig 226 are only duty guns they now use.
__________________
S&W BG380/Marlin Camp9 Carbine
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 11-16-2017, 06:56 PM
Fastbolt's Avatar
Fastbolt Fastbolt is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 4,350
Likes: 779
Liked 5,645 Times in 1,917 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmike7189 View Post
The NYPD just ditched the S&W 5946. there are NIB ones for sale at bass pro shops nationwide. i think glock19 and sig 226 are only duty guns they now use.
S&W told NYPD that they were no longer going to make 5946's, so cadets were no longer going to be able to continue to buy them for academies. That's a good reason to phase out any remaining NIB stock that hasn't been bought by newhires, and release it to the wholesale market.


Earlier this year I heard from someone in S&W LE sales that they'd finally reduced the number of "large" LE agency customers of 3rd gen guns to approx 5-6, across North America. That being the case, they'd told the agencies that the company was finally completely discontinuing 3rd gen production.
__________________
Ret LE Firearms inst & armorer

Last edited by Fastbolt; 11-16-2017 at 06:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #121  
Old 11-25-2017, 06:31 AM
RobG5589's Avatar
RobG5589 RobG5589 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: N. Commiefornia
Posts: 189
Likes: 3
Liked 34 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Cool post. Two good friends are CHP and I know one for sure purchased their duty pistol. I have seen it and could swear there was no rail. I'm gonna have to look again, this thread has my curiosity piqued. He said he is liking the M&P. Shoots great, quite a bit lighter, more capacity.
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 11-26-2017, 06:34 PM
Moecarrino Moecarrino is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Help

I was hoping someone could give some information on my model 4006 # TFD 12## what does TFD stand for
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 11-27-2017, 02:18 AM
BLUEDOT37's Avatar
BLUEDOT37 BLUEDOT37 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: N.E. OKLA.
Posts: 5,122
Likes: 4,432
Liked 6,390 Times in 2,494 Posts
Default

They don't stand for anything particular, just part of the normal alpha lettering sequence S&W was using at the time of it's production.

There were certain special models/variations, over the years, that got unique alpha letters that related to something though.

My 4006 is a TFF65xx.

.
__________________
Livin in the Land Of Confusion

Last edited by BLUEDOT37; 11-27-2017 at 02:18 AM. Reason: .
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #124  
Old 10-13-2018, 09:46 PM
brad96cdc brad96cdc is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 1
Liked 10 Times in 5 Posts
Default

Mines has some scratches but I like it

IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181014/f9787066edd0652e0ae1c363a0e91684.jpg[/IMG]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #125  
Old 10-17-2018, 07:45 PM
Merc6's Avatar
Merc6 Merc6 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 143
Likes: 711
Liked 49 Times in 34 Posts
Default

All the ones I've seen were straight grips, the one I have on the way to me has curved. Was this a random thing? not a complaint, just wondering since I haven't found many grips to replace if I decided that it was far worse than the pics show.
__________________
1911Sc46969064006TSWCHP5906TSW
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #126  
Old 10-17-2018, 08:05 PM
Fastbolt's Avatar
Fastbolt Fastbolt is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 4,350
Likes: 779
Liked 5,645 Times in 1,917 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc6 View Post
All the ones I've seen were straight grips, the one I have on the way to me has curved. Was this a random thing? not a complaint, just wondering since I haven't found many grips to replace if I decided that it was far worse than the pics show.
Probably depends upon the CHP field office. (Maybe from the academy, too, but you'd have to ask the forum member who is a gunsmith at the CHP academy.)

Many years ago we had a couple cases of extra factory grips, from when the factory was updating their LE agency customers with the revised grips (with the indicator dot added to the front or back of the D-cut on the bottom of the grip). Ours were all curved back then, as we were issuing 5903's as full-size weapons.

The weapons officer for the local CHP field office learned we had a lot of extra curved grips and asked if we'd be interested in trading some of our curved grips for some of their straight back grips. We asked for a small number of straight grips, since it helped some of our short-fingered shooters, but as I recall I think we just gave them as many of the curved ones as they wanted (and we still ended up with a case of extra new grips).

I don't know if they simply ordered extra grips of both straight and curved when the TSW's were ordered, so they could use them as they felt necessary, or some of the older curved grips were still floating around field offices from the time of their earlier 3rd gen's (like happened at the field office near us).

Congrats, though.
__________________
Ret LE Firearms inst & armorer

Last edited by Fastbolt; 10-17-2018 at 09:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #127  
Old 10-17-2018, 11:50 PM
JohnHL JohnHL is online now
SWCA Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: High Ridge, Mo.
Posts: 2,232
Likes: 5,412
Liked 2,903 Times in 1,215 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc6 View Post
All the ones I've seen were straight grips, the one I have on the way to me has curved. Was this a random thing? not a complaint, just wondering since I haven't found many grips to replace if I decided that it was far worse than the pics show.
By my recollection, ever since the .40 caliber pistols debuted with the 4006 around 1991, all of the advertising, gun mag reviews, and catalogs featured S&W 3rd Gen handguns with straight grips except for the 5906/5903.

I've always preferred the curved grips over the straight grips and I realize it is subjective.

I've just never heard why S&W chose to feature it's line-up with straight grips except for the 5906/3.

Does anyone know (or suspect) the reasoning behind this?

John?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #128  
Old 10-21-2018, 07:19 PM
Merc6's Avatar
Merc6 Merc6 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 143
Likes: 711
Liked 49 Times in 34 Posts
Default

Thanks for the quick replies, i was able to find a curved one. When the gun comes I'll decide if i will pull the trigger on a new set. When I upgraded the 469 I went with the 6904/6906 grips and been hooked.

Also another random question, what holsters were used for this? I don't plan on heavily usage of EDC with it but occasionally range duty i like to holster most guns and reserve the bag for ammo and tools.
__________________
1911Sc46969064006TSWCHP5906TSW
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 10-24-2018, 11:01 AM
Merc6's Avatar
Merc6 Merc6 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 143
Likes: 711
Liked 49 Times in 34 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by piedrarc View Post
All parts are replaced based off the weapons officers evaluation. Most of the Range Masters are also weapons officers and they facilitate and monitor all range training so they are able to identify problems during monthly shoots and replace or send the weapons to the gunsmiths at the academy.
I assume this is when in service and not when let go to the public
__________________
1911Sc46969064006TSWCHP5906TSW
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 11-01-2018, 10:34 PM
Dogmann's Avatar
Dogmann Dogmann is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 842
Likes: 2
Liked 100 Times in 62 Posts
Default

Anyone have a serial number with 666 in it? For the CHP Guns?
Reply With Quote
  #131  
Old 11-01-2018, 10:43 PM
Merc6's Avatar
Merc6 Merc6 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 143
Likes: 711
Liked 49 Times in 34 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogmann View Post
Anyone have a serial number with 666 in it? For the CHP Guns?
Like CHP666 or CHP666A
__________________
1911Sc46969064006TSWCHP5906TSW
Reply With Quote
  #132  
Old 11-01-2018, 10:47 PM
Dogmann's Avatar
Dogmann Dogmann is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 842
Likes: 2
Liked 100 Times in 62 Posts
Default

Yes sir......
Reply With Quote
  #133  
Old 11-01-2018, 10:48 PM
brad96cdc brad96cdc is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 1
Liked 10 Times in 5 Posts
Default

5150
Would be cool


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #134  
Old 11-01-2018, 10:51 PM
piedrarc piedrarc is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 7
Liked 78 Times in 18 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc6 View Post
I assume this is when in service and not when let go to the public


We still inspect them if they are going up for sale and annotate any deficiencies before they are returned to Sacramento. What happens after that - I donít know.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #135  
Old 11-01-2018, 11:02 PM
Merc6's Avatar
Merc6 Merc6 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 143
Likes: 711
Liked 49 Times in 34 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by piedrarc View Post
We still inspect them if they are going up for sale and annotate any deficiencies before they are returned to Sacramento. What happens after that - I don’t know.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I ended up doing recoil spring and mainspring when I swapped new grips on. I have the firing pin one for it and my 469 once I figure out how single side safeties come off.
__________________
1911Sc46969064006TSWCHP5906TSW

Last edited by Merc6; 11-01-2018 at 11:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #136  
Old 02-06-2019, 08:15 PM
neorebel's Avatar
neorebel neorebel is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 192
Likes: 133
Liked 199 Times in 77 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brad96cdc View Post
5150
Would be cool


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Being a former Redwood City LEO that made me laugh.
Reply With Quote
  #137  
Old 02-06-2019, 08:18 PM
neorebel's Avatar
neorebel neorebel is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 192
Likes: 133
Liked 199 Times in 77 Posts
Default

I ordered one from Summit today. Mark is a class act and very friendly. I appreciate his assistance in adding to my addiction...lol. I had to pay Missouri tax but no CC fee's. I will retire from a small Sheriff's Office in northeast Missouri and this is my retirement gift from my wife. Now, I have to wait until July 31st when I retire to shoot it. My wife is one wonderful gal.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #138  
Old 02-06-2019, 09:20 PM
Fastbolt's Avatar
Fastbolt Fastbolt is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 4,350
Likes: 779
Liked 5,645 Times in 1,917 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc6 View Post
I ended up doing recoil spring and mainspring when I swapped new grips on. I have the firing pin one for it and my 469 once I figure out how single side safeties come off.
Single side manual safety assemblies are removed the same way as ambi assemblies. There's just no ambi safety lever to remove, and there's no "extra" length of the cylindrical body sticking out beyond the right side of the slide (which makes pushing against it a little less easy).
__________________
Ret LE Firearms inst & armorer
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #139  
Old 02-07-2019, 07:14 AM
Jul Jul is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: VA.
Posts: 193
Likes: 123
Liked 151 Times in 40 Posts
Default

I am seriously thinking of purchasing one of these from Summit. To the folks that bought one from Mark what is your opinion of these as far as condition? Does Smith & Wesson still service these?
Reply With Quote
  #140  
Old 02-07-2019, 08:20 AM
rkwood rkwood is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 137
Likes: 596
Liked 174 Times in 76 Posts
Default

I think their condition depends greatly on your expectations. If you are looking for a mint condition example that has never seen the light of day, then you will be dissapointed. If, however, you are looking for a classic 3rd Gen with an integral rail that was built to CHP specifications, issued to an officer and actually carried, then you will be pleased. These guns typically are in excellent mechanical condition and show light-to-moderate holster wear.

I'm not sure what level of service or support Smith & Wesson currently provides for this model, however many parts are still available from Midway, Brownells, and Numrich. It would be wise to pick up a spare set of springs from one of them and maybe a few of the extra mags that are currently available from CDNN.

The CHP 4006 TSW is a great pistol. Reliable, beefy and accurate.

Sent from my SM-G930U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #141  
Old 02-07-2019, 02:28 PM
neorebel's Avatar
neorebel neorebel is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 192
Likes: 133
Liked 199 Times in 77 Posts
Default

the ones with the yellow mag followers are now going for $17.99 Now that's cheap for 4006 magazines. They are used. Get em' now.

CDNN SPORTS - CDNN Sports
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 02-07-2019, 06:14 PM
wendal's Avatar
wendal wendal is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: kansas
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Liked 45 Times in 27 Posts
Default

S&W will not service gen 3 guns. Your on your own. But they are high quality guns. Should last a life time...
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #143  
Old 02-08-2019, 10:49 AM
S&W59 S&W59 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 0
Liked 240 Times in 104 Posts
Default

As collecting vintage Smiths continues to increase in popularity, you will see gunsmiths specialize in repairing and restoring these. These are simple and easy to maintain firearms, you can replace all the parts yourself and there are a number of step-by-step YouTube videos. The parts right now are still available from Numrich and similar outfits as well as parts from Ebay and Gunbroker. What I expect to see soon are people offering full restoration of unloved vintage Smith automatics. You can get a rode-hard and put up wet Smith on the dirt cheap. The trick is getting the right lacquer for the alloy frames and deciding to use crushed walnut shell grit blasting media or baking soda blasting media to restore the stainless models satiny finish.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #144  
Old 02-08-2019, 02:12 PM
DMcBB DMcBB is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Beautiful Scenic NJ
Posts: 101
Likes: 199
Liked 133 Times in 55 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wendal View Post
S&W will not service gen 3 guns. Your on your own. But they are high quality guns. Should last a life time...
I'm not sure how true this is. They still offer the 3rd generation action job , where they basically do a trigger job, check everything for function, and change out the springs. They just refinished another user's 6906. It may be more accurate to say that they do limited service, because they probably don't have the big expensive spare parts (i.e. barrels, slides, etc...) anymore, but they don't seem to have totally abandoned them either.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #145  
Old 02-08-2019, 07:47 PM
cnette01 cnette01 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 178
Likes: 571
Liked 259 Times in 83 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jul View Post
I am seriously thinking of purchasing one of these from Summit. To the folks that bought one from Mark what is your opinion of these as far as condition? Does Smith & Wesson still service these?
I purchased one from Summit and was pleased with what I received for $385. Mark was great to work with, and I later purchased another 3rd gen from him. I'd say the CHP model is in very good condition, but that's my opinion. I'll post a pic later.
Attached Thumbnails
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information-imag1699-jpg  

Last edited by cnette01; 02-08-2019 at 10:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #146  
Old 02-11-2019, 07:39 PM
neorebel's Avatar
neorebel neorebel is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 192
Likes: 133
Liked 199 Times in 77 Posts
Default

Well it came in today from Summit and it is very nice. The grips show a little wear as does the gun but not much. I'm leaving her as she is, as she was carried. I do wonder what year it was made and how many were made in total. Does anyone know.

The serial number is CHP3192 if anyone has a clue I would appreciate it.

Yep, I can call S&W and ask but it's more fun here.



Last edited by neorebel; 02-11-2019 at 08:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #147  
Old 02-14-2019, 07:49 PM
neorebel's Avatar
neorebel neorebel is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 192
Likes: 133
Liked 199 Times in 77 Posts
Default

Does anyone know a way to make the "Tactical" and other markings darker.
I believe it was done with a laser? I have used nail polish many times to restore chipped or missing markings but these look awfully shallow.
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 02-15-2019, 01:32 AM
veeklog1 veeklog1 is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 93
Likes: 594
Liked 159 Times in 55 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DMcBB View Post
I'm not sure how true this is. They still offer the 3rd generation action job , where they basically do a trigger job, check everything for function, and change out the springs. They just refinished another user's 6906. It may be more accurate to say that they do limited service, because they probably don't have the big expensive spare parts (i.e. barrels, slides, etc...) anymore, but they don't seem to have totally abandoned them either.
Yup, still offer service. Might be limited, but still offer it through their Performance Center
Reply With Quote
  #149  
Old 02-19-2019, 11:30 PM
Johnluger Johnluger is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Liked 24 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Just got my 4006 from Summit Gun Broker over the weekend. It was in very good shape. It’s CHP6494
Reply With Quote
  #150  
Old 02-20-2019, 06:18 AM
Jul Jul is offline
Member
S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information S&W 4006TSW California Highway Patrol (CHP) Information  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: VA.
Posts: 193
Likes: 123
Liked 151 Times in 40 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neorebel View Post
Does anyone know a way to make the "Tactical" and other markings darker.
I believe it was done with a laser? I have used nail polish many times to restore chipped or missing markings but these look awfully shallow.
I have no idea other then to bead blast it and redo it. For me that is the first thing that's gotta go. I never did like the laser etched art work. If holstered enough it will rub off and fade over time.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Commemorative California Highway Patrol Retirement Edition .38 Special BigNick63 GUNS - For Sale or Trade 0 03-30-2016 11:36 PM
Mod 68 California Highway Patrol - Factory Letter wordsmith S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 2 02-13-2016 04:53 PM
S&W 66-2 California Highway Patrol BKDinTexas S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 3 05-09-2013 10:19 PM
Calling All CHP/California Highway Patrol Issued 4006 Experts XTrooper Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 36 04-12-2013 11:14 AM
California Highway Patrol Commemorative $? snw19_357 S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 8 06-18-2009 08:15 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)