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Old 07-10-2017, 10:32 AM
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I have a very nice Smith model 52-2. The barrel bushing is cracked. Does anyone know where I can get one? I would very much appreciate finding one. Shotgunner.
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:59 AM
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I have a very nice Smith model 52-2. The barrel bushing is cracked. Does anyone know where I can get one? I would very much appreciate finding one. Shotgunner.
Even IF you were lucky enough to find one - who would know how to fit it to the barrel?
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Old 07-10-2017, 12:24 PM
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My son is a gunsmith, I just need a bushing.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:53 AM
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I found one, a few years ago, at Cylinder & Slide. Also, check Numrich. You may get lucky.
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Old 07-15-2017, 01:11 PM
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I have a complete set of internals for a 52-2 including slide, barrel and barrel bushing and all mechanical parts.

As your son is a gunsmith should know the parts on a 52 series gun are custom fit on a gun to gun basis. If you can find a NEW part then it would need to be fit to your barrel. Other than that you should use a matched barrel & bushing.

Try Numrich / Gun Parts in New York State to see if they have a "new" bushing.
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:00 PM
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Hmm as an owner of several 52s, I don't see the necessity of having the Barrel Bushing fitted to a 52. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:50 PM
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I made one some years ago for someone who lost the original...If your son has a lathe and a mill he should be able to machine one out...
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Old 07-25-2017, 03:30 PM
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I built the Mod 52 for seven years, each bushing is hand honed to each barrel and just about every part is fit to each specific gun.
Production was on average about ten guns a week.
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:16 PM
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I built the Mod 52 for seven years, each bushing is hand honed to each barrel and just about every part is fit to each specific gun.
Production was on average about ten guns a week.
Well that's fantastic! Please tell us MORE MORE MORE!

Did you have your own specific number or letter stamped on the pistol down on the very bottom of the frame/butt, covered up when a magazine is inserted? I want to check if any of the 52's in my "family" passed through your hands!

Also, one of my 52's is a late model, three alpha prefix (fantastic pistol!), it's a TZT-prefix. This pistol does NOT have the frame cuts nor the divot in the dust cover for the factory counter-weight. I have not seen another 52-2 without the ability to take the counter weight but I must assume there were others. (the original no-dash 52 never had these features either) Was this due to tooling that wore out?

Definitely please tell us more!
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:28 PM
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My stamp started as "0" and I changed to a "C" later when I transitioned to fitting the 9mm and 22's (Mod 41's). I never worked with the three letter prefix only the A. When I started fitting the Mod 52, around 1979, there were seven of us on the bench. I was eventually the only fitter left when they started phasing it out. When I went on to fitting the other semi autos there was one person to build them, using up the remaining parts. I believe thats probably when the three letter prefix began and changes in the frame occurred. The semi autos by that time were ramping up and I was put in charge of teaching a group of revolver fitters to build semi autos, this around the time of the first Army trials. Semi autos were becoming very popular. Just before I left S&W, 1989, I was building the first of the 645's and 745's.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:51 PM
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While you are on the topic of 52-2 bushings let me ask how long they can be expected to last?

I have one bought ANIB and have put less that 100 rounds through it. Of course it is near impossible to know how many rounds the previous owner(s) put through it.

Are there any tell tale signs that a new bushing is needed other than a loss of accuracy?
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:07 PM
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My first Model 52-2 is an A774xxx serial number and it does indeed have the "0" stamp on the bottom leading edge of the magazine well! I hope that means you built this pistol of mine.

I have two 52's currently and this one is mint, I've only put about 600 rounds through this one, preferring to "keep it in reserve" while I shoot the wheels off my later model.

I've got a pair of 745's as well, I wonder if you built those also.

Thanks for your posts and sharing some history with us!
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:34 AM
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Just another note about the barrel/bushing fit

The barrels are turned on a lathe and I believe the bushings are cast, that's why they're brittle. The bushings are fit to the barrel on a spindle hone similar to honing a brake cylinder. There is no advantage to tightening the bushing into the slide, just snug at the closest notch in the bushing. It's all in the diameters of the barrel compared to the bushing. Each individually done by hand and left to the fitters "feel".
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:59 AM
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My stamp started as "0" and I changed to a "C" later when I transitioned to fitting the 9mm and 22's (Mod 41's). I never worked with the three letter prefix only the A. When I started fitting the Mod 52, around 1979, there were seven of us on the bench. I was eventually the only fitter left when they started phasing it out. When I went on to fitting the other semi autos there was one person to build them, using up the remaining parts. I believe thats probably when the three letter prefix began and changes in the frame occurred. The semi autos by that time were ramping up and I was put in charge of teaching a group of revolver fitters to build semi autos, this around the time of the first Army trials. Semi autos were becoming very popular. Just before I left S&W, 1989, I was building the first of the 645's and 745's.
This documents the start of the Quality Decline at S&W! It is not our imagination.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:43 AM
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I don't understand what you mean by this?
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Old 07-29-2017, 11:44 PM
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I don't understand what you mean by this?

I think what he is saying is that S&W has gone down hill since you left.
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I don't understand what you mean by this either. Some of my favorite shooters are from the 80's and 90's era.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:40 AM
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The 52 was being phased out while i was still at S&W, I spent seven years fitting them. I moved to assembling the other semi autos. when I did the pay rate was piecework, we had a quota we were expected to build, I went from fitting 10 to 15 52"s a week to assembling 40 or 50 autos a day depending on the model.
These guns are assembled, most parts fit all guns with little fitting to do, except for the Mod 41. We had to build them right or they would come back from the range as repairs, this would take time away from our piecework and would cut into our earnings. It was important to build them right the first time. Most every one there were very conscience of quality. The semi auto department had the finest group of guys.
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When I disassembled/reassembled my 52-2 for the post (now a sticky) that describes the process, I noticed a 6 digit number stamped on the slide under the adjustable rear sight. Does anyone know the significance of this number?
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Old 08-04-2017, 06:25 AM
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I do not remember doing this on ALL of the guns I built. Does it match the serial number? Have you seen many of these? about how many? I remember stamping some there if the slide went back to finishing/bluing after the gun was fit for cosmetic reasons. Otherwise the frame and slides were never apart from each other.
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