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My wife went out today to get some #61 O rings for her victory pistol.

She went to 3 places and they all had 60s but no 61s.(No spot in the box for that number) Why is she having problems? I thought this was a very common fix for the loose barrel? She went to the biggest independent hardware store in the area and to both a HDs and a Lowes. Possibly a large plumbing supply house will have them??????????????

We locktited it with Blue but she wants to be abel to take it apart easier.
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I'm not sure that an O-ring is the proper fix, but they are all over the internet.

Danco Perfect Match: #61 O-Ring, 35775B (Case Pack of 5)
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If you call S&W customer service they may send you a new takedown screw free of charge.
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Mine has the takedown screw with the red patch on it and hasn't come loose at all, even after I have removed it several times to detail strip.
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I got mine from a John Deere dealership.
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Thanks crew! We have a Deer dealer and a Ace Hardware store about 20 miles away. I did not know about the screw with the red patch. I will tell her to call S&W about the screw as been suggested here.

Like said its her gun I will let her make the call.

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Thanks crew! We have a Deer dealer and a Ace Hardware store about 20 miles away. I did not know about the screw with the red patch. I will tell her to call S&W about the screw as been suggested here.

Like said its her gun I will let her make the call.

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I called S&W customer service and they sent me out a new screw with the red dot on it. It remains unopened. The "0" ring has taken care of my issue with the barrel coming loose.
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Lowes in East Brunswick has them because of the stupid gun laws in NJ. If you can't buy the gun, you won't need the "O" ring
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Lowes in East Brunswick has them because of the stupid gun laws in NJ. If you can't buy the gun, you won't need the "O" ring

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Very true. Luckily I was able to get one. Unfortunately the laws are about to get much worse over here


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Most Hardware stores will probably sell the 61 o-ring. They are by far the easiet fix for the loose barrel issue and one should last for years altho I suggest buying several so you do have spares just in case. Myself I do not like using Locktite on any firearm for any reason. Makes a darn mess which can be a bugbear to clean off of some designs. Besides the O-ring will be much cheaper anyways as well.
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Some manufacturers use a different numbering system like 007. I believe you should look for 9/32" OD x 5/32" ID x 1/16". Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I finally found the John Deere part number.

# R34812. It cost $1.49 with IA tax.

Once I put it on it stays against the head of the screw when I remove the screw for cleaning the gun so the only wear is the compression to the ring when tightening the screw.
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ACE is the place where I found the #61 O-ring. They are ridiculously expensive when you buy one in a cellophane bag. I haven't actually used it yet. I prefer locktite because I have the manual dexterity to not make a mess!
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Some manufacturers use a different numbering system like 007. I believe you should look for 9/32" OD x 5/32" ID x 1/16". Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Those are the correct dimensions. My Ace Hardware has the o ring as a #007. They cost 23 each.
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On behalf of my wife I wish to thank all that helped out.

She went to that Ace hardware and bought 5 and she had also called S&W. As they know all too well about this engineering mistake he is sending her that new screw or screws. Sounds like this is going to turn out fine!
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She went to that Ace hardware and bought 5 and she had also called S&W. As they know all too well about this engineering mistake he is sending her that new screw or screws. Sounds like this is going to turn out fine!
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The concensus has been to put a #61 O-ring (any hardware or plumbing supply should stock them) and a drop of Vibra-Tite VC-3 (available on eBay for $6 for a 5ml tube, which will last you a lifetime!) OR pure silicone on the threads of the take-down screw. I wouldn't recommend using Lock-Tite, unless you use the 'light-strength purple color ONLY' to avoid the risk of permanently locking the take-down screw in place.
Also, don't forget to include an extended length QUALITY hex key (not a ball head, as they break off too easily) or T-handle hex wrench in your range bag with you and check the screw tightness after every 50-100 rounds fired.
There also are improved quality hex head screws offered on eBay for either $7@ or two for $10 (keep the extra in your shooting box) which have a 7/64 opening in the head for greater access and grip.
I've gone the route with the improved screw, #62 O-ring, and a little dab of VC-3, and have not had any problems to date.
It's really not a MAJOR issue, and if you're prepared, you shouldn't have a problem.
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I just bought a Victory and also joined this forum. I agree with Echo47 about Loctite. The blue is Anaerobic, it is a liquid when exposed to oxygen. As the screw is tightened the blue is deprived of oxygen and turns into a solid. I'm an engineer in the rocket industry, and we do not use Anaerobic Loctite in our electronics because it can migrate to places and cause issues.

The red Loctite has a methacrylate ester base. Think crazy glue. It is designed for permanent use. It is used by the military in many places, but not in the Abrams tank turret. The reason it that this type of threadlocker can shatter under high shock loads. It doesn't work after shattering. I have had scope mounts get loose with Loctite.

Vibra-Tite VC-3 is used in the Abrams tank. I buy it in a bottle and it also comes in a tube. To use, I degrease the screw, then brush on the VC-3. Do not install the screw! Let the VC-3 dry first. The VC-3 can be applied months before the screw is used. It is rubbery and probably flows into the nooks and crannies between the threads. It cannot shatter. The screw can be re-used many times. This is probably the red patch on the screws S&W has been sending out to fix this problem. I have used VC-3 for several decades and I never had it fail.

The torque on a action screw can affect accuracy. The screw is there to hold the two pieces of metal together even during shock loads. The purpose of the torque is to stretch the screw enough so shock loads, thermal expansion etc, cannot allow a screw to become loose even for a moment. Once a screw is loose it can turn (unless there is Vibra-Tite on it). The rubber o-ring may take up the slack, keeping the load on the screw, but probably not enough to keep the barrel and frame as tightly together as a torqued screw would. A Belleville Washer would be a better choice, offering greater force. I believe I saw some at Ace.

I would suggest the VC-3 without the O-ring and toque it down. Test to see how much the amount of torque affects accuracy. If you can't get to the store for the VC-3 in time, go look at a gun magazine (the kind you read). Find an add which is glued in the magazine with that strip of that snot stuff. A single wrap stretched around the threads worked for me a while back.
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Gentlemen
I just bought a Victory and also joined this forum. I agree with Echo47 about Loctite. The blue is Anaerobic, it is a liquid when exposed to oxygen. As the screw is tightened the blue is deprived of oxygen and turns into a solid. I'm an engineer in the rocket industry, and we do not use Anaerobic Loctite in our electronics because it can migrate to places and cause issues.

The red Loctite has a methacrylate ester base. Think crazy glue. It is designed for permanent use. It is used by the military in many places, but not in the Abrams tank turret. The reason it that this type of threadlocker can shatter under high shock loads. It doesn't work after shattering. I have had scope mounts get loose with Loctite.

Vibra-Tite VC-3 is used in the Abrams tank. I buy it in a bottle and it also comes in a tube. To use, I degrease the screw, then brush on the VC-3. Do not install the screw! Let the VC-3 dry first. The VC-3 can be applied months before the screw is used. It is rubbery and probably flows into the nooks and crannies between the threads. It cannot shatter. The screw can be re-used many times. This is probably the red patch on the screws S&W has been sending out to fix this problem. I have used VC-3 for several decades and I never had it fail.

The torque on a action screw can affect accuracy. The screw is there to hold the two pieces of metal together even during shock loads. The purpose of the torque is to stretch the screw enough so shock loads, thermal expansion etc, cannot allow a screw to become loose even for a moment. Once a screw is loose it can turn (unless there is Vibra-Tite on it). The rubber o-ring may take up the slack, keeping the load on the screw, but probably not enough to keep the barrel and frame as tightly together as a torqued screw would. A Belleville Washer would be a better choice, offering greater force. I believe I saw some at Ace.

I would suggest the VC-3 without the O-ring and torque it down. Test to see how much the amount of torque affects accuracy. If you can't get to the store for the VC-3 in time, go look at a gun magazine (the kind you read). Find an add which is glued in the magazine with that strip of that snot stuff. A single wrap stretched around the threads worked for me a while back.
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Is the o-ring rubber or metal?
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Tis rubber.
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