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Old 10-11-2017, 01:32 PM
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I recently found a workable 10 round magazine to make my 669 legal in California. It is made by MecGar and rebuilt by Robertson Trading Post. More specifically Robertson's took the MecGar 59 series 10 shot magazine and had a plastics company make a shorter plastic floor plate to be flush in the shorter 12 shot grip of the 469, 669, 6904, 6900 series handguns.
I shot it 100 rounds and zero problems. The new plastic floor plate is not quite as tight as the original 59 series of MecGar( I have one for my 559) but Robertson's redo works perfectly in my 669, drops free and no misfires in or out.
Can be bought directly from Robertson Trading Post, their catalog number is 744600290. On their site they only sell the blue steel mag for $29 plus $10 shipping, or buy 3 and pay no shipping.
I found and bought mine from EBay.. go figure. Go to EBay buy direct MecGar 669 10 round magazine. There you will have the option to buy the nickel plated (that's what I bought) for $36 and $10 to ship. Also on that EBay site you can buy 3 and ship free, or $33 blue steel $10 for shipping or buy 3 and ship free. They all come from Robertson Trading Post. I think I may have gave wrong information on magazine. Was reading the Robertson site info I think the 469 is full size not 12 shot short grip. Any way this before mentioned magazine is for the 69 series short grip 12 shot 9mm. Sorry Guys and Gals I did have the info correct 469 is 12 shot 459 is full size, please forgive me first timer in posting threads, I'll be more prepared next time.

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I recently found a workable 10 round magazine to make my 669 legal in California. It is made by MecGar and rebuilt by Robertson Trading Post. More specifically Robertson's took the MecGar 59 series 10 shot magazine and had a plastics company make a shorter plastic floor plate to be flush in the shorter 12 shot grip of the 469, 669, 6904, 6900 series handguns.

I shot it 100 rounds and zero problems. The new plastic floor plate is not quite as tight as the original 59 series of MecGar( I have one for my 559) but Robertson's redo works perfectly in my 669, drops free and no misfires in or out.
Lord knows I am no fan of Robertson Trading Post for their pitiful misinformation and self-serving restrictions regarding pre-ban vs. post-ban magazines, but this is something I may be forced to look into after Las Vegas. Moonbat MA is getting ready to pull a CA-type move and attempt to ban our pre-1994 hi-cap magazines. That would leave me with a whole lot of S&W 1st & 3rd Gen hi-cap pistols and precious few legal magazines for them.

Please post some pix when you can. I'm well aware of the Mec-Gar 5900-series 10-rounders and I guess I'll be buying some of them soon enough. The cut down versions offered by Robertson Trading Post? I'm less than thrilled but I might have to buy some of them as well.
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Lord knows I am no fan of Robertson Trading Post for their pitiful misinformation and self-serving restrictions regarding pre-ban vs. post-ban magazines, but this is something I may be forced to look into after Las Vegas. Moonbat MA is getting ready to pull a CA-type move and attempt to ban our pre-1994 hi-cap magazines. That would leave me with a whole lot of S&W 1st & 3rd Gen hi-cap pistols and precious few legal magazines for them.

Please post some pix when you can. I'm well aware of the Mec-Gar 5900-series 10-rounders and I guess I'll be buying some of them soon enough. The cut down versions offered by Robertson Trading Post? I'm less than thrilled but I might have to buy some of them as well.
Well if I knew my--- from a hole in the ground I'd send you some pics.. but I don't so if you go to their.. grrrr (Robertson's) site the pic is accurate. The new floor plate is not nice big smooth finger tip to grab your little finger like a OEM mag but it does have a bit of one and it will hold my little finger.
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Well if I knew my--- from a hole in the ground I'd send you some pics.. but I don't so if you go to their.. grrrr (Robertson's) site the pic is accurate. The new floor plate is not nice big smooth finger tip to grab your little finger like a OEM mag but it does have a bit of one and it will hold my little finger.
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Well if I knew my--- from a hole in the ground I'd send you some pics.. but I don't so if you go to their.. grrrr (Robertson's) site the pic is accurate. The new floor plate is not nice big smooth finger tip to grab your little finger like a OEM mag but it does have a bit of one and it will hold my little finger.
No worries on the pix. I've seen what Robertson Trading Post has posted on their own site and on that large auction website. It doesn't look right to my old eyes. I think they are posting pix of the (uncut) 5900-series Mac-Gar 10-round magazine, not their 6900-series hack. Hence, my request for better pix of their handiwork.

It's not even clear that it would pass muster with the anti-2A pols who run my moonbat state given that it is a third-party modification to a post-ban magazine (albeit a modification to an already 10-round magazine). Only time will tell.
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....... but this is something I may be forced to look into after Las Vegas. Moonbat MA is getting ready to pull a CA-type move and attempt to ban our pre-1994 hi-cap magazines. That would leave me with a whole lot of S&W 1st & 3rd Gen hi-cap pistols and precious few legal magazines for them......
Which is why I've been suggesting, for years now, that it may be wise to put away a couple 10-rd mags, in advance of future restrictions, but the very idea is always snidely dismissed. As you, (and eventually the rest of us), are finding out, it ain't such a stupid idea.
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Which is why I've been suggesting, for years now, that it may be wise to put away a couple 10-rd mags, in advance of future restrictions, but the very idea is always snidely dismissed. As you, (and eventually the rest of us), are finding out, it ain't such a stupid idea.
The problem is that they (i.e., OEM 10-rounders for hi-cap pistols) are scarcer than hen's teeth around here and have been for as long as I've been collecting 3rd Gens. The majority of hi-cap 3rd Gens that I've bought all came with pre-ban hi-cap magazines, which was by design, of course. I've also traded off a few 10-rounders I had for pre-ban hi-caps. No regrets cause it wouldn't have made much difference anyway... there were so few.

So my 5900-series pistols will get Mec-Gars... and I may have to swallow hard and buy some of those Robertson Trading Post hacks for my 6900-series guns. I'm still not sure what to do about my full-size 4000-series guns.

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EDIT: Turns out the MA legislature is debating the expedited bump stock ban bill as we speak and they have stripped out the pre-ban magazine ban for now. -ttsh

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No worries on the pix. I've seen what Robertson Trading Post has posted on their own site and on that large auction website. It doesn't look right to my old eyes. I think they are posting pix of the (uncut) 5900-series Mac-Gar 10-round magazine, not their 6900-series hack. Hence, my request for better pix of their handiwork.

It's not even clear that it would pass muster with the anti-2A pols who run my moonbat state given that it is a third-party modification to a post-ban magazine (albeit a modification to an already 10-round magazine). Only time will tell.
Dang what state are you in? I might should read our CA law again. Didn't see anything about 3rd party stuff..hm could be CA usually leads the charge in crazy
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Which is why I've been suggesting, for years now, that it may be wise to put away a couple 10-rd mags, in advance of future restrictions, but the very idea is always snidely dismissed. As you, (and eventually the rest of us), are finding out, it ain't such a stupid idea.
I have been lucky to find from the kindness of other members; Have found 10 round used OEM in 59,40,69 series at their local gun shows and have sold them to me at reasonable prices. Makes since when the used guns that start out life in a 10 round only state make it to areas that have no restrictions. Those people would get rid of the 10 rounders and buy high cap. But you are probably right they should keep them in reserve just incase their states go crazy too. First time in my life I have been looking for less round magazines and also non OEM. I've always been a blister pac OEM guy.
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Dang what state are you in? I might should read our CA law again. Didn't see anything about 3rd party stuff..hm could be CA usually leads the charge in crazy
No no no. At least up until recently, CA law is different from MA law in that regard. I believe that you have been allowed to modify post-ban magazines down to 10-rounds or less and that has been legal. There is no specific provision in MA law to allow post-ban magazines if they are modified to reduce capacity.

But again, logic tells you it shouldn't matter when the magazine in question was originally manufactured as a 10-round magazine. The problem is that badly written laws are often misinterpreted when it benefits the anti-2A agenda.
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No no no. At least up until recently, CA law is different from MA law in that regard. I believe that you have been allowed to modify post-ban magazines down to 10-rounds or less and that has been legal. There is no specific provision in MA law to allow post-ban magazines if they are modified to reduce capacity.

But again, logic tells you it shouldn't matter when the magazine in question was originally manufactured as a 10-round magazine. The problem is that badly written laws are often misinterpreted when it benefits the anti-2A agenda.
Yes the anti gun grabbers always seem to have at least one more trick up their sleeve. I wonder what they will do when they realize the non lead bullets (copper solids) they just have to have to save our environment zip right through most bullet proof vests?
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I've sold/shipped many OEM S&W 10 rounders to the OP.
Based on the comments/observations in this thread,time to put extra emphasis in the acquisition of 10 rounders at the shows here in Ohio.
This weekends Warren show should prove fruitful as I haven't seen my 'suppliers' since August.

I have 3 suppliers at the shows,I buy a lot from them so they give me lower prices and they know I buy for selling/shipping out at $5 over what I paid them. Hopefully prices won't start escalating because of national situations. When they see me roaming the shows they tell me to make sure I stop and see them as they've acquired 'stuff' I'd be interested in.

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Bringing this thread back to life as the threat of more anti-2A gun laws being passed in my loony moonbat state seems to grow stronger with every passing day. They just banned bump stocks practically overnight and more new laws are being debated as I write this. It's a feeding frenzy here right now.

Our still legal pre-ban hi-cap magazines will continue to be a target of the gun grabbers. Interestingly, that means some folks here are looking for even more of them (while they can still obtain them) while other folks are looking to buy 10-rounders to prepare for whatever might come. The most prudent gun owners are probably doing a little of both.

Along those lines, I'd like to hear more from anyone who owns 5900-series Mec-Gar 10-rounders. Reviews on-line are mixed, but it is hard to figure out if the problems discussed are simply unique to the reviewer's guns or more generally true. I have no use for magazines that won't be totally reliable. Yes, I know that Mec-Gar has historically been a generally reliable brand, but these new, shorter tube, 10-round magazines are not necessarily indicative of Mec-Gar's past success.

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As an aside, I have recently tried to negotiate for some 10-round S&W OEM magazines that I found with used guns for sale down in Little Rhody. I tried both buying and swapping for either pre-ban or brand new post-ban 15-rounders. I had zero success. As it turns out, 10-rounders are said to be a "great selling point" for used guns down in "free state" RI. The reason? Apparently a lot of Northern RI shooters are members of clubs in MA or prefer an indoor range we have right across the state line here in MA. To play it extra safe, they only take 10-round magazines across the state line and into MA. Son of a gun! Now I know.
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I think I originally started this thread talking about the Robertsons redo on the MecGar 59 10 round; having a new shorter plastic floorplate on the 10 round metal tube. I mentioned ( I think) in passing I had one of MecGar's 10 round full size for my 559. It has worked without one fail in both my 559 and 669. And the redo from Robertsons has also had zero fails.
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I think I originally started this thread talking about the Robertsons redo on the MecGar 59 10 round; having a new shorter plastic floorplate on the 10 round metal tube. I mentioned ( I think) in passing I had one of MecGar's 10 round full size for my 559. It has worked without one fail in both my 559 and 669. And the redo from Robertsons has also had zero fails.
Good to hear. Thank you.
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There are out there 10 round magazines for the Marlin Camp 9 carbine that work perfectly in the S&W 6904/6906 (and 469/669, I guess). They fit flush and are reliable, at least this is my own experience.
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Thanks European
I guess it's been more than a month since coming to the forum.
You have a camp 9 and a 6906 you have used the same magazine in?
And I would guess that the magazine is made by Marlin?
Through the kindness of other forum members that have found the 10 rounders at gun shows in the mid west where the high capacity ones are still legal I guess they, the owners of the used handgun they bought that started it's life in the crazy states CA, NY etc. that have banned high cap mags don't want them. I personally think you can never have too many quality magazines no matter the capacity.
Thank you for the info I will look into the camp 9 possibility.
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Through the kindness of other forum members that have found the 10 rounders at gun shows in the mid west where the high capacity ones are still legal I guess they, the owners of the used handgun they bought that started it's life in the crazy states CA, NY etc. that have banned high cap mags don't want them.
How soon folks forget that the entire country (all 57 states!) was limited to 10 round magazines for 10 years during the Federal AWB... 1994-2004.

And BTW, I sincerely doubt you are going to find any large numbers of 10-round Camp 9 magazines for sale in the USA these days. They are much more scarce than even the hard-to-find S&W 6900-series 10-round magazines.
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How soon folks forget that the entire country (all 57 states!) was limited to 10 round magazines for 10 years during the Federal AWB... 1994-2004.
If I might be allowed to paraphrase our Southern brothers and sisters:

"Heck no! We AIN'T fergittin!"

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