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Old 02-06-2018, 08:36 PM
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I'm looking to add a CS9 chief's special to my collection to go along with my beloved 3913's. Been watching online sources, as I will never see one in local gun stores (never have, and doubt I ever will).

I've seen different variations, and wanted to see if you kind folks could clarify. Most obvious would be the the alloy/stainless colored vs black version. I know the silver colored one would be same bead blast type alloy frame, with stainless slide. Just like 3913. Is the black version an anodized alloy frame with carbon steel slide...OR stainless slide that has a "black" treatment of some type? I've read in previous posts (which I have no reason to doubt), that they used "C" after "CS9" for carbon slide, and "S" after for stainless. However, looking at one online that's black...model number shows "CS9" (no C or S). ??

Also, it seems like some CS9's out there have ambi safeties like standard 3913's...and some have left side only (like 3913 lady smith or NL models). Is this true? I've also seen some black colored safety...even on the silver stainless slide? Again, from previous posts, sounds like older models have single side safety, and later models had ambi. Also sounds like black vs. stainless manual safety was somewhat random.

Depending on year made, sounds like sights could be plastic or metal. Read that some folks upgraded sights to night sights...so sounds like standard novak type dove tail. Also looks like mag release was black nylon, as is some (if not all) guiderods. But sounds like some report later version had stainless guidrods. Would be nice to upgrade sights, guiderod, and mag release with metal parts like the 3913 has. Anybody done this? Swapable parts?

OK...lot's of questions there. But I really appreciate your time, feedback, input, and of course pictures!

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Yes, the black CS9 is a carbon steel slide on an aluminum frame, which is anodized black. They were the first CS9s produced.

The first stainless CS9s had stainless steel slides on light grey anodized frames. These first stainless CS9s had single sided decocker/safety levers and plastic sights, the same used on the black CS9.

The last CS9s produced were stainless slides on light grey anodized frames with ambi decocker/safety levers and metal Novak sights.

As far as upgrades go, some folks put Big Dog grips (cut down 3913 Delrin grips) on in place of the OEM Hogue grips. Metal Novak sights or night sights are another frequent mod. One last mod, done by some, is to substitute the shorter rounded mag baseplates from the early 3913TSWs on the CS9 mag rather than the finger rest plates that come on the CS9 mags.

I have an early black CS9. It is my favorite 9mm carry gun. And I have some nice ones too.

I did buy some TercGen Delrin grips for mine. In the miserably hot and humid NC weather.........which is pretty much 8 months of the year here, I use the Delrin grips with a rubber grip sleeve over them and a rounded 3913TSW mag baseplate.

This set-up enables me to carry the CS9 in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster, in my pocket, or in an ankle holster.

But for the rest of the time I use it as it came from the factory. Because it is just about perfect as it is. A perfect size and weight for carry. Very accurate, especially with 147 grain RA9b or HST.

And like all 3rd gen guns it is bet your life reliable. Mine is approaching 4K rounds without a single malfunction. It is one of my very favorite carry guns.

So I would advise you to buy it, shoot it, love it. On the off chance you dont care for it, you will have no trouble selling it. Lots of folks here looking for one...... or as in my case a second CS9. Because they are that good! Good luck with your decision! Hope this helps! Regards 18DAI
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Great info 18DAI, thanks! I'll probably take the first one that comes up that I can afford (I've seen some sell north of $700...and as much as I want one....), although I'm hoping that it's stainless slide version with single side safety. I have a standard 3913, but like carrying my 3913NL better due to less width at back of slide. I'm assuming the same would be true for the CS9. But, it won't be a deal killer if a black one turns up at a fair price! Like the idea of metal sights. I've never shot 147 grain from my 3913's, wonder if that would help with accuracy on that model also. I usually buy what's cheapest. I like the 124, but 115 usually easier to find. Like your idea on the base plate. I've found the pinky base on my other guns typically increase printing for my typical 4:00 IWB carry position. I'll have to find some of those early TSW mag bases! Thanks again!

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My experience with my pre rail 3913TSW and pre rail 3953TSW is that they shoot low with 115gr ammunition. They shoot much better with 124gr, and even better with 147gr. As you note, both are harder to find than 115gr.

The early TSW base plates MIGHT still be available from the factory. They had them the first time I called, but had them on back order the second time. Eventually they showed up. That was probably three years ago, but still worth the call.

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Great info 18DAI, thanks! I'll probably take the first one that comes up that I can afford (I've seen some sell north of $700...and as much as I want one....), although I'm hoping that it's stainless slide version with single side safety. I have a standard 3913, but like carrying my 3913NL better due to less width at back of slide. I'm assuming the same would be true for the CS9. But, it won't be a deal killer if a black one turns up at a fair price! Like the idea of metal sights. I've never shot 147 grain from my 3913's, wonder if that would help with accuracy on that model also. I usually buy what's cheapest. I like the 124, but 115 usually easier to find. Like your idea on the base plate. I've found the pinky base on my other guns typically increase printing for my typical 4:00 IWB carry position. I'll have to find some of those early TSW mag bases! Thanks again!
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I couldn't add anything else to what 18DAI has said.

I never thought I'd find one locally either, but one showed up a couple of years ago. I ended up "bundling" it with a Beretta 21A .22 for $500.00. Neither one was mint perfect, but both cleaned up well.

I liked the CS9 so much I got a CS45 in Washington, which was an expensive nightmare. I didn't now how hard it was to just buy a pistol there.

Anyway, here's a couple of pics. I bought KSD grips for both, but KSD screwed up on the CS9 one, and I got NO HELP from them.
The hammers were just an experiment that I did, still not sure if I'll change them back or not.

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Wow...great replies guys. Thanks for the pics 4T5! I like the way the wood grip looks. I've seen 'big dog' delrin grips cut that way so that the backstrap comes down to be closer to flush with bottom of mag base plate. I like that look, and may be better to reduce printing. How can I buy one...with hoarders like you running around? One place I don't see them, is on this forum's for sale section. Only about 3 CS9 over last few years on there. Nobody wants to sell these, I can see why. I should have bought one years ago, since I've wanted one for probably a decade and have bought many guns during that time. Duh.
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I owned a black CS9 many years ago. My first CCW. It did shoot low (for me) with 115 gr. I put on the Big Dog grips (ordered directly from him) and made it a lot easier to carry. I could not get used to the slide mounted safety so sold it. I think it also had a magazine safety. Sometimes wish I still had it.

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I hear ya Wyo-man. If you are really used to that safety, it's no biggie. Been carrying 3913's since early the 90's and my summer carry is a walther PPK (same exact safety operation/position). So I'm quite used to it. Use mainly as decocker and carry one in chamber, so "safety" is long DA trigger pull. Beretta is also same. Always in holster with trigger covered though. Not a big fan of the ambi version though. When I shoot 1911 I have to think about safety, as opposed to 2nd nature. But won't sell em...fun to shoot. Just don't carry that platform. Guess I'm a wimp, but carrying a gun with round chambered and hammer back freaks me out.
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I hear ya Wyo-man. If you are really used to that safety, it's no biggie. Been carrying 3913's since early the 90's and my summer carry is a walther PPK (same exact safety operation/position). So I'm quite used to it. Use mainly as decocker and carry one in chamber, so "safety" is long DA trigger pull. Beretta is also same. Always in holster with trigger covered though. Not a big fan of the ambi version though. When I shoot 1911 I have to think about safety, as opposed to 2nd nature. But won't sell em...fun to shoot. Just don't carry that platform. Guess I'm a wimp, but carrying a gun with round chambered and hammer back freaks me out.
That is something that takes trust and time...Even hit mine with a rubber hammer
to make sure that "Cocked & Locked" was safe as everyone said it was...

My first pistol was a Star 30M, which had a decocker, so you could load it,
charge it, then use the FP safety where a little cover slid over the firing pin,
then simply flip it up to go BANG, or push down a little extra to decock
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I have the CS9D and CS45D, love them both, but I recently picked up a 3914DAO and it doesnít want to leave my side... I ordered a two sets of the custom grips from tercgen, Iíll be installing them as soon as I get them... I put the KSD wood grips on my cs45d, but they felt too chunky, so they are coming back off...


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Hey Don, thanks for nice picture. Nice looking! You are the DOA king on the compact 3rd gens for sure. I've always been tempted to buy some wood grips for my 3913NL, but so used to the stock grips now. One of my 3913's has the hogues mainly for range shooting. Love how those fit my hand, too bad not nearly as nice for concealed carry. Once I get the cs9 I'm longing for, I'll be needing a set of them big dogs! Does tercgen still make those?
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Hey Don, thanks for nice picture. Nice looking! You are the DOA king on the compact 3rd gens for sure. I've always been tempted to buy some wood grips for my 3913NL, but so used to the stock grips now. One of my 3913's has the hogues mainly for range shooting. Love how those fit my hand, too bad not nearly as nice for concealed carry. Once I get the cs9 I'm longing for, I'll be needing a set of them big dogs! Does tercgen still make those?
Yes, I do still make some of these grips from time to time, more of a hobby than a steady production. I just completed a few sets for Don and will likely have a few sets for both the CS9 and the CS45 ready in the near future.
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This is what an early "black" CS9 looks like with "Big Dog" grips:





Note the decocker is only on the left side. (The skate board tape was already on it so I left it alone.)

A DAO model would be pretty cool methinks.

It was in a "conversation" on this Forum about a year ago, I am pretty sure it was 2017 but maybe 2016, wherein I expressed my desire for a CS-9 and a very nice East Coast Forum member directed me to a North Carolina board where a member had posted a CS-9 for sale and VOILA! There it is. It is one of 4 guns that I routinely carry. It is excellent.

This is its cousin that I used to carry:



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I've had my stainless CS9D since the late 1990s and I'm not giving it up. Last month, I did see a black CS9 for sale for $499 here in the Atlanta area. Unfortunately, I did not have a spare $499
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Thanks again guys...and TercGen for chiming in on grips. And thanks to Yoda for the great reference images for grips, etc.

OK...since we are on the topic of CS9's here...and all things related, some feedback on below would be appreciated.

1) I've been searching/reading for quite some time. I've seen some folks say that if you have a 3913, there isn't much utilitarian need for a CS9 (save for "wants", collection, etc)...since the size difference is "negligible". I'm really hoping that it's small enough and light enough (counting on big dog grips here too) to be better for summer carry, wifes small handbag holster, etc. I have 3 3913's already (standard, NL, LS) so wanted feedback of those that have/had both....is it small enough to make a difference in your opinions? Not looking for pocket carry. Just less printing, etc. There are simply very few 9mm options for all metal DA/SA guns notably smaller than 3913's. Several options for SAO (P938, etc), .380 caliber (NAA guardian, Seecamps, PPK, P232,etc), and plastic/striker fired. But I'm a metal DA/SA lovin' fool!

2) DA/SA vs. DAO. As you all know, these are getting hard to come by. I've been watching online for some time. I've seen DAO CS9D come up and have been tempted. But I do love the 3rd gen DA/SA trigger for follow up shots, longer distance targets, etc. Only real advantage i see to DAO is less parts like manual safety, and less to think about (pull it out, pull the trigger). But I use safety as decock only for the most part...so I'm presenting/shooting already. Triggers about the same in DAO? pull weight? Am I missing something...what do you DAO guys love about them, compared to their SA/DA siblings?
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Thanks again guys...and TercGen for chiming in on grips. And thanks to Yoda for the great reference images for grips, etc.

OK...since we are on the topic of CS9's here...and all things related, some feedback on below would be appreciated.

1) I've been searching/reading for quite some time. I've seen some folks say that if you have a 3913, there isn't much utilitarian need for a CS9 (save for "wants", collection, etc)...since the size difference is "negligible". I'm really hoping that it's small enough and light enough (counting on big dog grips here too) to be better for summer carry, wifes small handbag holster, etc. I have 3 3913's already (standard, NL, LS) so wanted feedback of those that have/had both....is it small enough to make a difference in your opinions? Not looking for pocket carry. Just less printing, etc. There are simply very few 9mm options for all metal DA/SA guns notably smaller than 3913's. Several options for SAO (P938, etc), .380 caliber (NAA guardian, Seecamps, PPK, P232,etc), and plastic/striker fired. But I'm a metal DA/SA lovin' fool!

2) DA/SA vs. DAO. As you all know, these are getting hard to come by. I've been watching online for some time. I've seen DAO CS9D come up and have been tempted. But I do love the 3rd gen DA/SA trigger for follow up shots, longer distance targets, etc. Only real advantage i see to DAO is less parts like manual safety, and less to think about (pull it out, pull the trigger). But I use safety as decock only for the most part...so I'm presenting/shooting already. Triggers about the same in DAO? pull weight? Am I missing something...what do you DAO guys love about them, compared to their SA/DA siblings?
IMO the CS9 is a great little gun, and well worth adding to the collection. Even if you don't wind up liking it, chances are you won't lose any money by reselling later.

1. While the CS9 is a bit smaller than the 3913 in height and length, it does offer some advantages in concealment. It is possible to pocket carry, especially in shallower jacket pockets, and it works better for appendix carry due to the shorter slide. It won't stick out from under a shirt in an OWB holster as much, and for light clothing/Summertime carry I feel that it does print less IWB.

2. I prefer TDA to DAO mainly because it gives you more options, especially in regards to safety. My favorite thing about TDA is the ability to load & unload the pistol with the safety on and the firing pin securely locked in place, as well as when I am holstering the weapon. I like to choose when to have the safety off and have never yet had the lever accidentally move on me. With a single-sided safety the gun is also just as slim (in terms of printing) as a DAO gun.
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Yeah, I figure I can't go wrong buying a cs9, providing I don't get impatient and way over pay for one. I'm guessing for what I'm expecting, it will do what I want. I carry a PPK for front pocket carry in shorts with pocket holster. Also IWB in sticky holster. Even if the cs9 will just be "kind of" in the middle between 3913 and PPK...I will be pleased as punch. I've been trying to convince myself to enter the world of DAO, but the other half of my brain isn't going along. I like shooting my S&W revolver (625) in DA, as well as SA for longer shots. But for bottom feeders, seems odd. I came inches from buying a little North American Arms guardian 380 at a local pawn shop the other day. Thing is tiny, and DAO. No safety, no slide lock, no nothing. Trigger wasn't bad either, and I realize it's just a "get off me" gun. But couldn't get past the DAO. Plus it looked like it could be painful.

Curious to see what the DAO fans have to say...I know there must be some advantages to them, or why would they make them?
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+1 to my friend TercGens comments. I own 3913s and 3914s and I find that they are rarely shot or carried any longer since I acquired the CS9.

The CS9 is, as TercGen pointed out, slightly smaller - lighter and shorter than a 39XX series gun. AND it Points better and handles quicker, for me, than a 39XX series gun. And of course a CS9 is a joy to carry. And slightly easier to conceal than a 39XX gun - especially when it wears TercGen grips!

Yes, you do lose one round with a CS9 vs a 39XX.......but having worked homicide investigations for 19 years, I am of the belief - based on experience, that you will be out of time long before you are out of ammo - no matter what you are carrying. Regardless of the.....stuff...you may read on gunboards. 7+1 147 grain JHPs works just fine, for me. My 0.02 Regards 18DAI
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My CS9D is my only DAO S&W auto, so I can compare it to other 3rd Gen DAO models. But, the trigger pull on my CS9D feels much like my 686, and I have no trouble qualifying in the high 90s with it (which includes shots at 25 yrds). The pull is long but smooth and not overly heavy. And, it has multiple strike capability. It really shoots like a magazine fed revolver.
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I found that the pre rail 3913TSW is almost as easy to carry as the CS9. For me, it shoots better than the CS9, which is why I switched to it and sold my CS9.

If I hadn't found the 3913TSW, I'd still be carrying the CS9, though.

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+1 to my friend TercGens comments. I own 3913s and 3914s and I find that they are rarely shot or carried any longer since I acquired the CS9.

The CS9 is, as TercGen pointed out, slightly smaller - lighter and shorter than a 39XX series gun. AND it Points better and handles quicker, for me, than a 39XX series gun. And of course a CS9 is a joy to carry. And slightly easier to conceal than a 39XX gun - especially when it wears TercGen grips!

Yes, you do lose one round with a CS9 vs a 39XX.......but having worked homicide investigations for 19 years, I am of the belief - based on experience, that you will be out of time long before you are out of ammo - no matter what you are carrying. Regardless of the.....stuff...you may read on gunboards. 7+1 147 grain JHPs works just fine, for me. My 0.02 Regards 18DAI
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I've heard that the pre rail 3913 TSW is smaller than standard version...but never seen side by side. Is it somewhere in the middle between the CS9 and 3913...or closer to one or the other? I know it has the "shorty" type magazine and cut out. Might be a good alternative to the CS9 (if I can't find one). Thanks for pointing that out GaryS.
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That sure is purdy nocents. What brand? How much width did that add, over the delrin grips? Checkered backstrap sure is a nice touch on those. I like it!
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm familiar with 686 trigger (older pre-lock), that wouldn't be bad at all for a cs9. Although I know I can't punch holes in paper as well as you (not even close).

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Been reading up (as much as I can find anyway) on DAO triggers. More info out there regarding 3953 vs. 3913....as opposed to cs9 vs cs9D, but I'm guessing things should be very similar on the two platforms.

My understanding is, that the DAO trigger isn't just like the first pull of the DA/SA trigger. In that, it kind of "half cocks" when slide is racked...making the DAO trigger a shorter pull distance, and lighter in pull weight. Do I have this right? Not a whole lot different (in some terms) from striker setups on Kahrs, Glocks, etc.. where the striker is half "cocked", and trigger pull brings it the rest of the way prior to release and striking FP.

Maybe I have this all wrong. Would be very curious as to CS9 DA trigger pull weight, vs. CS9D trigger pull weight. Also length of pull. But don't expect anybody has "real" (not necessarily published) numbers on this. Plus, I'm probably boring folks by now
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The 3953 has an extension on rear of slide and offset frame. This allows the use of the cone hammer. The CS9D has a looooong pull as it is the standard hammer with out the single action notch in the TDA frame.
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Just installed the tercgen grips on my cs45d and cs9d.... excellent fit, installation was a breeze... it makes the cs45d fit my hand perfectly now! Thank you Tercgen keep up the top notch work!!


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TercGen your grips look truly factory grade...outstanding
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Damn this thread gets me so nostalgic for the Smith and Wesson that used to exist before the plastic era.
The CS 9 and the Gen 3 guns of that period are gone from New production forever in the name of progress and competition. Even the revolvers from that era were innovative and of great quality.
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I am somewhat tempted by a stainless CS9D. I don't really need one, but I am tempted. I like the DAO as I have relatively small hands and the slide mounted safety/decocker has always been a nuisance for me. The only thing holding me back (other than lack of need) is that they have been out of production a while and I fear that any problems would be a bear to get fixed.
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Just installed the tercgen grips on my cs45d and cs9d.... excellent fit, installation was a breeze... it makes the cs45d fit my hand perfectly now! Thank you Tercgen keep up the top notch work!!
Thanks for the kind words Don (&nocents), and I'm glad that you like the grips! Nice use of the traction tape on the front of your CS45 as well - I like to put a strip there and also on the back of the grips with my 3rd Gens.

These modified Delrin grips really make a difference with the CS45/40, I personally can't stand the big, bulky, pregnant factory Hogue rubbers. I like them better on the CS9 too, but it's like night and day with the CS45/40.

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I like my plain Jane CS9. It is a fun an accurate concealed handgun to shoot.
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I have a low round count CS9 I took out of the safe last week for it's yearly cleaning. I should start getting rid of some pieces because I am 71 yrs old and in so,so health. I hate selling anything but I have sooooo many pieces I guess to be honest I am a hoarder of weapons. I think I have around 8-10 mags for it because that's the way I roll on every semi. If anyone is interested send me a message. If I am breaking any rules please let me know. Thanks, Mike
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I found that the pre rail 3913TSW is almost as easy to carry as the CS9. For me, it shoots better than the CS9, which is why I switched to it and sold my CS9.

If I hadn't found the 3913TSW, I'd still be carrying the CS9, though.


I have a CS9, but I really lust for that early no-rail 3913TSW. If you find another one let me know!


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I had some rare free time this AM. So I switched the OEM grips off my CS9 and put the TercGen grips with a rubber grip sleeve back on.

Now my CS9 is ready for spring/summer carry. Regards 18DAI
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I had some rare free time this AM. So I switched the OEM grips off my CS9 and put the TercGen grips with a rubber grip sleeve back on.

Now my CS9 is ready for spring/summer carry. Regards 18DAI
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I like my plain Jane CS9. .......
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I really lust for that early no-rail 3913TSW.
I picked one up this past weekend from a local forum member. I wasn't looking for one at all but knowing it's a rather scarce pistol, I bought it anyway.
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I picked one up this past weekend from a local forum member. I wasn't looking for one at all but knowing it's a rather scarce pistol, I bought it anyway.
Nice! Been following threads on the TSW's lately....the guys in the know (the ones with way too many 3rd gens) say nothing beats the TSW trigger....even though we couldn't find that S&W used the refined action as a specific sales point. I want one!! Heck, I'd be happy to find a fair deal on longer grip and rail version. Never see 'em in LGS.
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I picked one up this past weekend from a local forum member. I wasn't looking for one at all but knowing it's a rather scarce pistol, I bought it anyway.

Whaaaaat? if you decide to part with that, please let me know.


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That sure is purdy nocents. What brand? How much width did that add, over the delrin grips? Checkered backstrap sure is a nice touch on those. I like it!
my apologies smithfan that I didn't reply sooner but just seen your question....I didn't measure the width difference but the wood KSD grips feel like they have slightly more girth than stock delrins and a lot less than wood or rubber Hogues
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Just felt the need to brag that I found this 3913TSW mag for my cs9 for just $29.95 lol



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If you're interested in swapping the baseplate for a curved one, PM me. And yes, that's a good price for a NIP magazine. After all, you don't shoot the package.

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Can one change the plastic type mag release to a metal more conventional one. I had a CS9 with tge single sided slide mounted de-cocker and i took it completely apart and that damn mag release was fi ished haf to have a mate of a mate machine one out of a similar material using a very expensive machine. But never trusted thw mag release nut after that. If it is able to replaced i will look for.ankther cs9. I sold my cs9 as i coukd o ly find it used abd it was in a horrible shape. And i gifted a cs45 to a friend of mine which i do not regret...
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If you are asking if the magazine release can be replaced with a metal one from say, a 3913, the answer is no.

The magazine nut for the Value Line guns is a plastic, one time use, part that is different from the standard 3rd Gen item. In fact, the entire assembly is different. Plus, the frame is machined differently on the Value Line guns.

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Can one change the plastic type mag release to a metal more conventional one. I had a CS9 with tge single sided slide mounted de-cocker and i took it completely apart and that damn mag release was fi ished haf to have a mate of a mate machine one out of a similar material using a very expensive machine. But never trusted thw mag release nut after that. If it is able to replaced i will look for.ankther cs9. I sold my cs9 as i coukd o ly find it used abd it was in a horrible shape. And i gifted a cs45 to a friend of mine which i do not regret...
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The disconnect tab that holds the magazine is of course metal though. The CS9 plastic mag release works as intended, you just donít take it apart unless you have a new one to replace it with. To maintain it, I drip oil into both sides while working the button, then blow it out with compressed air. Good as new


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I got home from work and my set of TercGen modded CS40 grips were waiting in the mailbox for me. Easy installation and they look and feel great. I took a couple of pics of my TDA CS40 with the grips next to its brother DAO CS40 with stock grips to show the huge difference they make.
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I got home from work and my set of TercGen modded CS40 grips were waiting in the mailbox for me. Easy installation and they look and feel great. I took a couple of pics of my TDA CS40 with the grips next to its brother DAO CS40 with stock grips to show the huge difference they make.


Nice Smithís u got there! The thinner grips are so much better than the gigantic rubber Hogues


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This something. I found this CS9 just listed TODAY. Shop opened 20 mins ago. I called, and it had just sold a few mins prior!!! Missed it by that much!


They also have a MINT 3913 w box and papers for $450 if anyone is looking for one


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