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Old 04-06-2018, 07:59 PM
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Freeze, Miami Vice! Yes, I'll admit it. Back in the day I was an unabashed fan of Miami Vice. If we're honest with ourselves, anyone interested in becoming a cop during that era was influenced by the show on some level. It was so indicative of the '80s: lots of speed and flash, big hair, big shoulder pads. Big guns with big bores were also the order of the day. This was also the era of the infamous Miami Shootout involving the FBI and two armed felons. In the aftermath, the 9mm was found to be inadequate (it really wasn't but that's another story) so big bore modern semi-autos became the flavor of the moment. The 1911 was maintaining some traction within law enforcement circles, but the whole cocked and locked thing gave the desk jockies the heebie jeebies. Enter the 4506 by Smith and Wesson.



As one of Smith and Wessons entries in their, then new, 3rd Generation line, the 4506 was really nothing more than an ergonomic improvement of the 2nd Generation 645. Like its predecessor, the 4506 was big, heavy and built like a bank vault.



At the time I was drinking the Jeff Cooper KoolAid in the 44 ounce size, so I was a .45acp, 1911 man all the way. In the words of the old Master Chief, "I'd rather carry a bucket full of long necked Budweiser bottles than a damned 9mm." And those "Crunch n' Ticker" double action autos as El Padrone called them? Well, that was just an answer looking for a question. If you couldn't handle Gods Gun, go set at the kids table. Still, I had to admit, those shiny stainless autos thrown around by Sonny Crockett on a weekly basis sure looked sexy. That Bren Ten was cool (until I actually shot one, what a clunker), so was the 645 and then the 4506 appeared.



Despite my opinions on Gods Gun and double action autos, I had to admit that big stainless beast really stirred my juices and it quickly became one of the tactical hotnesses of the latter part of the decade. Unfortunately, I was a poor sailor with babies to feed. Consequently, I was a one gun man back then. To get a new one I had to sell what I had. Sell Gods Gun? My God, would Moses pawn the Ten Commandments? So sadly, I never did acquire one. A shipmate did though. Whether based upon my recommendation, or just to rub my nose in it my ego cannot say. He let me shoot it and it was cool. I then moved on to other things and the big Smith faded into history along with MC Hammer pants and the Mullet.

Then, earlier this week I walked into my local range and there it was in the display case.



In a flood of nostalgia it all came back to me. I could smell the salt in the air, the Cadillac in the parking lot started to look a lot like a Ferrari and I swear I could hear In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins playing in the distance.



Yes, yes, I know. Before the Interwebz Movie Police pull me over, I realize this isn't the exact variant used in the show. But please, don't harsh my pastel mellow.



I'd recently lost out on acquiring a cherry Colt Python and I had a sad on about that, so I made the snap decision to carpe diem the s**t out of this one.



For a thirty year old gun, it's in great shape with just a few handling marks here and there. The trigger is what you'd expect from an unaltered double action auto from the 80s: not bad, but not outstanding. It's long and smooth on the DA if a bit heavy, with a not too shabby SA pull and a crazy short reset. Certainly not terrible and nothing that will be an impediment to good shooting. The price was reasonable and the package included four magazines, so I didn't hesitate.



Today, I happily carry a 9mm and a double action semi-auto to boot. Gods Gun is now a part time fun gun, so my attitudes have changed quite a bit over the years. As I get older, more of my decisions are based upon nostalgia for the past and I freely admit, this is one of them. I don't have the long hair anymore and I long ago outgrew the white linen blazer, but now I have the gun.
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Very nice! From the pics it appears to have a pre-recall grip.
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I bought one just like yours just over a year ago. I even carry it now and then in a kinda sorta Miami Vice rig. With 2 loaded mags on the right, you don't forget you have it on. But hey, if Sonny can handle it, so can I.
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Nice example of a 4506. Itís been right at 30 years ago since Detective Crockett sported the 3rd Gen Auto. Before that he had the 645 and in the first season a Ben10.

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Very nice! From the pics it appears to have a pre-recall grip.
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Thanks, I wondered about that. It's not a great concern, but I think I'll pick up a spare just in case.
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:02 AM
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I have a no dash like it-great gun!
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:40 AM
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Can anyone help me on a manufacture date. The big S&W Bible isn't very helpful with this one.

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Old 04-07-2018, 07:37 AM
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That was the Bren 10 and the fbi issued smith and Wesson 1076 was the result of the miami shoot out not a 45. Crockett did carry the 4506 in the couple of seasons of the series.
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That was the Bren 10 and the fbi issued smith and Wesson 1076 was the result of the miami shoot out not a 45. Crockett did carry the 4506 in the couple of seasons of the series.
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I didn't stick around too long with semi-autos before catching the revolver bug and never looking back, but I would have loved 3rd gen S&Ws. Good thing I didn't get into them actually. Your example looks great.

Now, I don't really care about semi-autos, so no desire to buy any 3rd gen S&Ws. My PX4 Storm serves the hi-cap 9mm role. However, I can plainly see the quality of 3rd gens, and being all steel. Plus, the SA/DA nature of them is a design I prefer.

These guns should be way more popular, but plastic is cheaper and lighter. So the consumer society that we are dictates solid steel go the way of the dinosaur. I just honestly don't know what the next step in manufacturing is going to be as there aren't many ways to keep cheapening guns down, but you know that's the trend we have been on for the last 50yrs and will only continue.

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If you really want to know what Sonny carried...

Guns and holsters used:

Pilot episode: Browning BDA (SIG Sauer P220 heel mag release) in a Bianchi X-15 holster.

Season 1: Dornaus & Dixon Bren Ten chambered in 45 ACP, the slide was hard chromed to help it show up better in night scenes. The holster was a Ted Blocker Lifeline holster with the harness inside out so that smooth side of straps were down, the entire harness was worn upside down with the narrow portion of the harness center pointing up towards his neck.

Season 2: Holster changed to a Galco Jackass approximately midway through the season due to Johnson's complaints about comfort and printing of the Lifeline rig.

Seasons 3-4: Smith & Wesson 645 in a Galco Jackass holster.

Season 5: Smith & Wesson transitional model 645-4506 in a Galco Jackass holster.

Backup guns:
Detonics Combat Master Mk VI in a Galco Ankle Glove AG424 holster seasons 1-4.

Smith & Wesson 6906 in a Galco AG246 Ankle Glove season 5.

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Congratulations on your new purchase, and
providing pictures.

I remember as a young man looking at that
exact model. I made the mistake and bought
a 9MM S&W Model 5906. Long gone now.

Someday I'll find one new in the box, but will
have to pay a lot for it.
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Never wanted a S&W .45ACP, but found myself with a 745. Heckuva shooter, very accurate. The SAO feature appealed to me. BUT, it was deadly - to my hand. The blood, the scars, the horror - the horror. It's a safe queen today.

THEN a colleague foisted off a 4516 on me. At the time it didn't matter, but I've seen some S&W collectors go watery in the knees when they see it is a "no dash", something that meant, and means, nothing to me.
It suited me VERY well. I shot it well and could carry it easily. ALmost sprang for a 4506 but decided that, when added to what I had, it was a third shoe.

I've heard 4506 could handle the .45 Super with a change of springs. If I could have found any (and if I'd even HEARD of it!), that might have tipped me over to buy one. I remember it as larger than a 1911 and at least as heavy, while still holding 8(?) rounds. I shot the Sig P220/.45ACP very well and stuck with it.

It does look as though you got a good buy. Congratulations.
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I thought that this thread was about Davy and coon skin caps. I am old.
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Yes, the 4506 is fully capable of handling the 45 Super cartridge and one of the reasons I bought a transitional 645/4506 many years ago. I traded it for an early Kimber Gold Match Stainless 1911-A1. The Kimber is nice, but these days that transitional 645/4506 is more interesting and collectable. Wishing I had kept the S&W and started looking for a period correct Galco Jackass holster.
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The 4506 is my favorite full size 45 auto hand gun on the planet - certainly in the price range. I like my 1911's, but in a theoretical combat situation, I would pick the 4506. I always say it is the only handgun heavy enough to use as a club if you run out of ammo. Experienced and inexperienced shooters alike always enjoy firing the 4506.
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They are great pistols.
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Miami Vice also influenced my youth. My first semi-auto was a 4506 just like that one in a Miami Classic. I completely understand and approve of this thread.
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Nice gun but I couldn't stand the show.
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Issues solved. The old beast is running like a scalded dog now.
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I carried a 645 after the U.S. Customs Service forbid the carry of single-action autos. It was my tactical pistol as a member of the SRT Team. It served me well till the Glock 21 came into production, and it was my new door-kicking gun until I left the team.
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HAHAHA!!! So did I! I thought to myself, "Self, did he buy a flintlock?"

But I soon realized the error of my ways - AND THAT WAS A VERY FUN POST! I enjoyed it and the memories of Sonny C's various handguns. Loved that show and sometimes I watch re-runs!
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In the 90s on X files moulder and skully both rocked smith and wesson 45s
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In the 90s on X files moulder and skully both rocked smith and wesson 45s
You mean .40’s in regards to the X files. 4006’s. Also at times Sig’s and Glock’s.

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Well, after 500 rounds I had to throw in the towel on the factory grips. They're just too narrow for my big meat hooks. My hands can't get good contact on the sides of the grip no matter how hard I crush it and this causes the gun to torque in my hands during discharge.

In spite of the fact that I despise rubber grips on handguns, I've installed a set of Hogues and they do the trick as far as controllability goes. The increase in girth is the key factor.

A question for those of you who've used the wood Hogues: how do they compare in size to the rubber grips? About the same, or are they larger still?
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During the VICE days I had the opportunity to work as a supervisor with the real Miami-Dade Narcotics Bureau. I was constantly kept busy trying to restrain young detectives who sometimes confused their role with TV fiction. Those times were quite an adventure. As far as the Smith .45s go, I had both the 645 and the 4506. Both great guns but real heavy. There was much more interest in the light frame Sigs.
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Great write-up and I'll admit to catching the show regularly back then. I recently picked up this 645 from a forum member and it's bringing back memories of pink flamingoes and Jai-Alai. Now need to find a jackass rig, pick up my Armani suit from the cleaners, and quit wearing socks.
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During the VICE days I had the opportunity to work as a supervisor with the real Miami-Dade Narcotics Bureau. I was constantly kept busy trying to restrain young detectives who sometimes confused their role with TV fiction. Those times were quite an adventure. As far as the Smith .45s go, I had both the 645 and the 4506. Both great guns but real heavy. There was much more interest in the light frame Sigs.
Ya, just prior to the introduction of the 3rd Gen Smiths I transitioned from 1911s to a West German Sig 220 to meet my .45 carry need.......added a Sig 245 in about 1993/94
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