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Old 05-12-2018, 09:16 AM
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I recently purchased a CS45, "almost new" w box and usual stuff that comes w new gun. Two mags. I bought 4 more mags off eBay, new 6 -round marked CS45 in S&W packaging. They all have the same kind of indents as the ones that came with the gun. They are all a bitch to load and only one of them seats the rounds directly up against the lips at the top of the mag. In a couple of them the top round sits pretty far down. I was afraid they wouldn't feed, but I ran 50 rounds through at the range without problems. I'm hoping they will "break in" with use.
BTW, I took the gun to my local smith to see what he could do about the trigger. He had done trigger jobs on my 4506 and 4566 previously. He refused to work on the CS45. Said it was a "piece of sh__" and there was nothing he could do for it. Now, he's a crusty old bird, but he knows guns. Any thoughts about that opinion?
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:51 PM
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I recently purchased a CS45, "almost new" w box and usual stuff that comes w new gun. Two mags. I bought 4 more mags off eBay, new 6 -round marked CS45 in S&W packaging. They all have the same kind of indents as the ones that came with the gun. They are all a bitch to load and only one of them seats the rounds directly up against the lips at the top of the mag. In a couple of them the top round sits pretty far down. I was afraid they wouldn't feed, but I ran 50 rounds through at the range without problems. I'm hoping they will "break in" with use.
BTW, I took the gun to my local smith to see what he could do about the trigger. He had done trigger jobs on my 4506 and 4566 previously. He refused to work on the CS45. Said it was a "piece of sh__" and there was nothing he could do for it. Now, he's a crusty old bird, but he knows guns. Any thoughts about that opinion?
Yep, some of those mags can be pretty tight on the top round, because of how the secondary dimples press against the top round. This was explained to me as being needed so the top round wouldn't displace itself during the more violent recoil of the smaller and lighter CS45 (compared to the bigger 3rd gen .45's).

The recoil during firing can shake the magazine enough to cause the rounds to rise up through those tight secondary dimples, as it was explained to me by someone from the factory (as an armorer).

Considering the frame's internal "action" parts - drawbar, hammer, trigger, etc - are the same as those used in the 4506/66 models, I have no idea why your smith would make such a comment.

It might be that your older 4506/66 both had the older flash-chromed carbon steel hammer & trigger, both of which could vary quite a bit when it came to "smoothness" of the surfaces, and your CS45 would have the MIM parts, which were very smooth from the beginning. He might not have seen anything he could improve upon for smoothness in the CS45. Also, even the newer drawbars were much smoother and had better finished sides and edges, as well as rounded cuts in stress corners, unlike the earlier drawbars that might've been in your older guns.
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While there are s&w products made since 2001 that qualify for the description your "gunsmith" used, the CS45 isn't one of them.

I'd find another gunsmith and at least get a 2nd opinion. Regards 18DAI
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The CS45 is a quality product. I give a second opinion for a second opinion.
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He had done trigger jobs on my 4506 and 4566 previously. He refused to work on the CS45. Said it was a "piece of sh__" and there was nothing he could do for it. Now, he's a crusty old bird, but he knows guns. Any thoughts about that opinion?
My thoughts? Let us just say I strongly disagree with that fellow's opinion. Being that all the guts in the CS45 are EXACTLY the same as those found in your 4506 & 4566 aside from the inclusion of MIM vice wrought parts there's no reason your CS45 couldn't be slicked up a bit.

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I'm not sure I understand the problems. Disassemble the mags and make sure the spring is seated correctly. If you are a reloader, you can disassemble and tumble the metal parts of the mags in your polishing media. Then measure the overall heights without baseplates before reassembling. CS 45's have very few issues. Get an Uplulu mag loader, the extra leverage can help get the last round in.
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