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Old 05-20-2018, 05:39 PM
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Posting this announcement here was approved by s&wchad.

A lot of folks here on the forum have been after me for years to hang out a shingle, well Sir, I finally gone and done it. Now operating as "BMCM Custom" out of Natchez Mississippi.

So my main focus is on 3rd gen guns... well 2nd gens too suppose.

Not an all inclusive list but here's what I can offer off the top of my head:

Sight Installations.
Sight blades changed on factory adjustable (ie dots, plain, white outline or tritium)
Refinishing/abrasive blasting stainless components.
Grip enhancements ie hand cut checkering and or stippling on steel
10mm conversions for CS10 and single stack 40's.
Mags modified for 10mm.
Modest carry bevels.
Mild dehorning to full blown carry melts.
Machining slide for spring loaded decocker.
Extractors fitted and gauged
Decock timing checked and sear release levers fitted
Trigger play springs installed
Novak low mount backsights fitted to 2nd gens
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.236" for nested recoil spring set
.290" for single recoil springs
.250" for ISMI flatwire springs
Flatwire recoil spring conversions
Action work
De-burr & recut crowns
Polish feedramp (not that they really need it)
TIG welding

Stuff I'm not equipped to do:
Blueing
Parkerising
Nitriding (although I know a couple outfits who can)
Refinishing aluminum (anodizing)
Spray painting

Like I said above, my focus is on the 2nd and 3rd gen guns in support of the community here because I think they are outstanding arms owned by outstanding people. That being said, I suppose if you need a Garand re-barreled or an FAL built I can see to that as well. I'm not particularly interested in building ARs either, there's plenty of kids out there already doing that. Not that it takes a great deal of intellect to slap an AR together

Anyhow, should you need something done hit me up with a PM and we can get on the phone or skype and discuss your job.

And a Big Thank You! to all the members who supported & encouraged me to start this enterprise You know who you are

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Can only give one "Like". :9

A couple of questions.

Do you have, or plan to have a website?

Could you do a shave/melt on stainless decock/safety levers?

Oh, about ten minutes ago, I was going to ask in the 3rd Gen as duty weapons thread if you were planning on going into business. ESP or something.
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Outstanding! I've been admiring and being inspired by your work for years now BMCM. This will be a tremendous asset to the 2nd & 3rd Gen community here - Thank You, Sir!!
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This is really great news for all 3rd Gen fans, and there are a lot of them. I already have a project in mind for you and I will contact soon. Thank you very much for taking this very exciting step.
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Best wishes for your endeavor, Chief!! I only have one 3rd generation Smith, but I know there are many, many folks here who love them and have a bunch.

Best Luck!!

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Wow great news... do you plan to offer up the "conversion bushing" that allows the use of the smaller diameter 4516-2 guide rod and nested recoil spring setup on a 4516/4516-1, with the larger diameter guide rod hole in the slide?

I think it was you that supplied me with one many years ago, and you only had a couple available then.
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Can only give one "Like". :9

A couple of questions.

Do you have, or plan to have a website?

Could you do a shave/melt on stainless decock/safety levers?

Oh, about ten minutes ago, I was going to ask in the 3rd Gen as duty weapons thread if you were planning on going into business. ESP or something.
No website yet but I'm would like to do something along those lines mostly just to self-host all my pictures since Photobucket broke all my linked images and damned if I'll pay them $400/year for third party hosting.

Shave levers? sure no problem just tell me how many steps you want off or left. As an aside, I don't recommend slimming the levers down on a spring loaded decocker. That spring is pretty stout and I lprefer the larger purchase on the fullsize levers for that.

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Wow great news... do you plan to offer up the "conversion bushing" that allows the use of the smaller diameter 4516-2 guide rod and nested recoil spring setup on a 4516/4516-1, with the larger diameter guide rod hole in the slide?

I think it was you that supplied me with one many years ago, and you only had a couple available then.
Reducing bushings in two ID's for both the factory "skinny" guiderod and a 1/4" guiderod for use with a flatwire spring. I like to have the slide in hand for precise fitting since I've seen quite a bit of variance in the ID of the spring tunnel on different guns. I like the bushing to be a tight interference fit secured with Loctite 620. Some time back I made some special punches just for installing & removing these bushings. Pics are my 1006 and 4506 with bushings for the flatwire setup, new guiderod for my 4506 and some loose bushings in different sizes.

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Gents, I was asked to keep my replies to a reasonable minimum (once per day) in this thread so if you have a question about a something please hit me with a PM or just post your question and I will PM you the answer. Don't wan't the mods to get bent outa shape

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Congrats BMCM!!

Now I have to figure out what I want to send to you first!!

You are a true craftsman and we are VERY fortunate to have you! Thank you for doing this! I wish you much success! Best regards, 18DAI
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I know for sure that I haven't seen near as many fantastic projects as many of these guys have, but I've been totally impressed with all that I have seen. I think this is great news for the forum.
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I echo everyone's enthusiasm for your new enterprise, Master Chief; it's the best news I've seen on the Forum in quite a while! And I have a 4566 with "trigger click" that I'll be sending you once things quiet down a bit with what I'm sure will be a torrent of requests for your fine work. Best of luck to you!
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Coooool.....going to build some FrankenSmiths????????????????
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I echo everyone's enthusiasm for your new enterprise, Master Chief; it's the best news I've seen on the Forum in quite a while! And I have a 4566 with "trigger click" that I'll be sending you once things quiet down a bit with what I'm sure will be a torrent of requests for your fine work. Best of luck to you!
I just want to know how many of my 3rd Gens I can send him at one time... ... and does he have an "easy payment" plan?
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Maybe my 39-2 will be an ASP someday, after all!
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Maybe my 39-2 will be an ASP someday, after all!

Unless 3913 mags fit flush...... I'd stick with a..............wait for it............... 3913!


TTSH.......think fast; and use overnight shipping for those few good years left......

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Might be cheaper to deliver them all at once in person.
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Might be cheaper to deliver them all at once in person.
Don't you need a passport to leave the state???
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Don't you need a passport to leave the state???
No, but the trick would be getting through New York State without ending up in prison for the next 10-15 years.
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No, but the trick would be getting through New York State without ending up in prison for the next 10-15 years.

A "Life sentence"....... according to one, who will remain nameless, but is always bemoaning how few good years they have left!



Maybe BMCM will build you your "dream" 3rd Gen Smith.... on a frame you already own (legal) in the PR of Mass.

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New York is not the issue, New Jersey is. Upstate New York is pretty rural and brings you right into PA. Turn more south and then you'll run parallel to NJ.

Keep everything locked up going through MD, and then it's clear sailing. Depending on your endurance, you can be in Natchez in two days. I did Boston to Austin, TX in three, with stops outside of Roanoke, VA and Pearl, MS.

It's a nice drive, almost all interstates.

I've also driven to Louisville, KY, using the same route through NYS.

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New York is not the issue, New Jersey is. Upstate New York is pretty rural and brings you right into PA. Turn more south and then you'll run parallel to NJ.
Yep. No intention of ever driving through New Jersey ever again. They're crazy there! A route through PA works just fine for me. But NY state is still unavoidable.

Road trip GaryS? You up for it? I've got enough work in trigger play spring replacements alone to employ BMCM for the next year!

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Don't ever think I'm forgetting my advanced age. And as I've said before, I don't think I'd do very well in prison.
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Sounds GREAT! I live in Oxford and I own 8 third generation 9mms. I am glad to "know" a good S&W smith!
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I think this is fabulous news!

I hope this is an awesome venture for you. I think your talent is unequaled when it comes to smithing these pistols. Every example of your work I have seen has been flawless and almost all of it rivals factory work.

I wish you much success and I may contact you in the future for a little work.
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Great news, I have a 4013 just begging for some work.
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Sure am glad to have a quality gunsmith in South Mississippi again!
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Master Chief, best wishes on your endeavor. I have to ask, have you ever drawn duty at Cape May in the Marksmanship Unit?
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Thanks a bunch.

To your question... No but served as a small arms instructor for 25 years or thereabouts and I competed on the service shooting team for four years in the 90's. Precision pistol & service rifle, gotta love free Garands courtesy of the SECNAV.

As I understand, The Cape May crew was disbanded some time long before the competitive shooting program was brought back around 1990

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Master Chief,

The reason I asked was that I use to teach up the parkway from USCG station Cape May and I had a number of students that were Coastie dependents. One of my student's fathers was a Chief in the small arms unit and the armorer. If that had been you, I was going to ask how your daughter was doing!
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Bill, can you provide us some general information about how to send a handgun to you for work to be done? My only experience with this is returning one to S&W after going through its process of having a return authorization issued, etc.

Is transferring the gun through an FFL necessary for custom work, or can we ship guns to you ourselves?

Thanks -- hope this will be helpful to everyone else interested in your work as well.
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Sure happy to help...

One caveat... various shipping entities frequently change their rules so it's best to check with the company a get the latest dope direct from them.

Ok then as a NON-Licensee you are basically down to UPS or FEDEX and I'm pretty sure both require overnight express for handgun shipments. This gets pretty pricey fast. USPS will only ship handguns between FFL licensees.

I'll briefly describe the last couple times I shipped a gun as a non-licensee:

About 8 years ago I traded off a Freedom Arms revolver and shipped it via UPS. At the time UPS was not accepting sealed packages so I had to open the parcel at the UPS office then re-seal it. Additionally, I had to show proof the addressee was an FFL or authorized recipient. the cost was near $70 for next day delivery.

Last Year I traded off my melted 4516. I got on the USPS website, prepared and payed for the shipping via priority mail with my go to transfer FFL guy's address as the shipper. I had arranged in advance for both dealers to exchange FFLs via email so all I had to do was carry the gun and open package with pre-printed, pre-payed shipping label over to my guy, he enters it in his A&D book sealed the box and hands it to the postman. USPS small flat rate box was around $6.75 then plus insurance, my bill was around $12 as I recall.

If you have a good relationship with your local FFL that is probably the most cost effective method to ship a pistol to me.
You arrange ahead of time for me and your guy to exchange FFLs and hand him the gun. He enters it as an acquisition then a disposition to me and ships it. I get the gun and enter it as a acquisition, do the work, enter a disposition to your dealer and ship it back. Your dealer gets it, acquisition then disposition to you, the down side is you'll have to fill out another 4473 pros: less costly. cons: more paperwork and if you're not pals with your FFL... possible multiple transfer fees.

You can ship direct to me though, just not through USPS. United Parcel and FEDEX both have sections on their websites outlining procedures for shipping firearms by individuals. Best to check with your chosen shipper direct to get the latest rules & procedures. Which one is preferred? Ehh, 6 to 1 to half a dozen of the other No difference IMO, I go with who's closer. For me UPS is less than a half mile away while FEDEX is 70 miles.

DO NOT make, or leave any markings on the box that indicate it contains a firearm. (this includes business names that include "GUN" in the title) best to address it in the name of the licensee.

DO Insure the shipment.

DO NOT ship anything to me unless I have given you the go-ahead.

NOTE: I can only return ship firearms to an official address as noted on your DL. I will need you to text or email me an image of your DL, CCW, municiple water bill, or some other official document with your name on it and the address to where the firearm is disposed to when I'm done with the work. Not my rules but ATF's so don't shoot the messenger

For example. You send a gun to me for whatever... You live in North Carolina. While I have your gun on the bench you go on a trip to Alaska and and want the gun shipped to you at your vacation spot in Sitka. Sorry no can do... I can only ship it to the address on your DL , you know, the DL pic you texted to me before shipping the gun to me back before you left for Alaska, yeah that address Again, not my rules, but rules I am bound by.

Now, on my end... I receive a firearm from you. It gets entered in my book as an acquisition. I then perform the work. Upon completion I will prepare the shipment via USPS Priority Mail and enter the gun's disposition in my book. I will request a pickup and when my Postman stops by I'll hand him the box containing your gun, inform him it contains a firearm and ask him to scan it in right then. I will have either emailed or PM'd you the tracking number.
And take note: When I return ship it's going to be marked 'delivery confirmation required' AND 'adult signature required'. If nobody is there to sign for it hopefully your carrier leaves you a notice and takes it back to the shop instead of dropping it on your porch

If you know in advance no one is going to be home to sign for it you can let me know to mark it 'hold for pickup' in which case you'll have to go fetch it at your post office.

I think it best NOT to have a gun sitting in the mailbox or laying on the porch all day until someone gets home, especially considering all the parcel stealing we've seen of late.

That's about all I can think of right now, I hope this clears things up somewhat

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It's called Ship My Gun, Jeppo. They use FedEx. There's a website: Gun Shipping - Fast, Legal, Affordable.

Looks pretty easy to use.
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Question from a dirt poor old man: The mothership and other gun makers use pre-printed labels from their own accounts to make shipping to them as simple and inexpensive as possible. Is that allowed and practical for a small gunsmithing operation? Or am I dreaming?

Also, can multiple handguns be shipped in the same box? Or are you limited by law or shipper policies to one gun per box?
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It's called Ship My Gun, Jeppo. They use FedEx. There's a website: Gun Shipping - Fast, Legal, Affordable.

Looks pretty easy to use.
I was not aware of that outfit. Looks pretty interesting however, the big company logo on their box announcing the contents gives me pause. I'd cover that 'steal me logo' up with a big slab of gummed tape.

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Question from a dirt poor old man: The mothership and other gun makers use pre-printed labels from their own accounts to make shipping to them as simple and inexpensive as possible. Is that allowed and practical for a small gunsmithing operation? Or am I dreaming?
Allowed? certainly. Practical? I don't know, I'll look into it. Thing is large business entities negotiate contracts with shippers for deep discounts on high volume. Not sure it would be economical for me as a one man show, but I'll check into it anyway and post what I find out.

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Multiple handgun dispositions within a 7 day period require extra paperwork (ATF 3910.2) and notification of the ATF. I don't see any legal limitation, shipping companies may have some rules, but in any event you draw extra Federal attention to yourself doing that. Even if shipped separate in two parcels it's still reportable if within a 7 day period. Why bother, I only work on one at a time anyway

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Allowed? certainly. Practical? I don't know, I'll look into it. Thing is large business entities negotiate contracts with shippers for deep discounts on high volume. Not sure it would be economical for me as a one man show, but I'll check into it anyway and post what I find out.
Thanks BMCM! I'm hoping this is a real (and legal) possibility as it suddenly makes sending you relatively small repairs and enhancements feasible without breaking the bank on shipping and transfer fees.

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Multiple handgun dispositions within a 7 day period require extra paperwork (ATF 3910.2) and notification of the ATF. I don't see any legal limitation, shipping companies may have some rules, but in any event you draw extra Federal attention to yourself doing that. Even if shipped separate in two parcels it's still reportable if within a 7 day period. Why bother, I only work on one at a time anyway
My second question related back to my first question. Again, I am thinking about how the mothership handles repairs, under warranty or otherwise. They send you a label and you mail the gun to them using that label... and then (eventually) they mail the gun back to you. In other words, no FFL transfer fees involved (or scary ATF multi-transfer paperwork) and mucho cheaper shipping. Is that something only a manufacturer can do? Or can a licensed gunsmith do the same thing?

You'd think I'd know this by now, but I don't.
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