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Pachmayr Mag sleeves for Kahr MK9 on 3913
Check this out.
I bought a couple of these:
Pachmayr Black Rubber Full Stipple Pistol Mag Sleeves for Various Handguns | eBay
And sanded one down till it fit a 3904 magazine flush with a 3913.
Looks good but FEELS awesome!
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YOu can see the one yet to be altered next to the fitted one. Very small amount needs to be removed from the top of the sleeve to fit in the pistol. They have a small set screw at the back to keep them in place.
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06-01-2018, 08:44 PM
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Here with my customized 915 slide on board. 3915?
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Great Karma! Please include my name in your drawing.
Very nice. I will be getting a couple of those. Thanks for telling us! Regards 18DAI
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Thanks brother. It makes it a very handy 9+1 pistol with either slide. If I can't find a 3904 (and I really can't) then this will have to be the ticket for now.
The mag pictured is an old 3904/909 mag that has windows up to eight rounds but I put the newer follower in them and they all hold 9 now. I have been using them with metal floorplates in my 39-2s, but they always looked a little wonky in those guns, sticking out just far enough to be noticeable. This is a finer purpose.
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Add a little checkering to 'em and it'd almost look Stock
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Add a little checkering to 'em and it'd almost look Stock
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I think I DO in fact have a good set of files laying around here.
Next time I am watching old episodes of Longmire (The Story Of Iggy) I will checker the front strap of one of these and see how it feels. It's only nylon, so it won't take long. Should be done before Walt (Iggy) has his man.
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06-02-2018, 05:30 PM
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Great find on this! I’m going to give a go. Thanks!
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Worked out well! Took a bit more tweaking than I thought it would but it fits pretty well. I’m also going to try to use this for an 8 rounder in my CS9.
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Nice work. I have now done three of them this way. No checkering yet, but I will do that next.
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SWEeeet...... on the 3915. Same upper you've pictured on your 6915 or did you do a second upper?????
LOL I use one of the uncommon steel base/flush fit 7rd magazines for concealed carry with my 3913NL with a "hicap" 8 round stock mag as backup.
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squidsix,
Will you explain the follower change you made to increase the capacity.
Thanks,
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All I did was grab the guts from newer 3906/3904/909 magazines (these are marked 9 rounds) and put them in my older 8-round 3904 mags. If utopia take the mags apart, both the new 3904 (9-round) and older 3904 (8-round) magazine bodies are identical with the exception of the witness hole for the 9th round. The spring and follower design changed slightly to accommodate the 9th round. Midway sells the followers and springs for these mags, and the only ones they seem to have are the "new" ones.
And BAM-BAM, no I did not do another 915 slide. In fact the only other one I have is sitting on my bench waiting for me to decide what to do with it. I want to cut it like the other one, and then send it off for melonite, but this expense is hard to justify. I have a 469 that it will eventually sit on. That is getting cut up also, but it's a story for another thread and another time.
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I had to bring this thread back because it is such a good tip!
(Or as Bob Brownell would say, a good "kink", or as a hipster would say, a good "hack".)
I don't know how I missed it the first time, maybe Indy 500 hangover?
So is it time to hear about the "cut up" 469?
John?
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I bailed on the 469/669/659 project. It was going to be a 659 slide on a 469 with a few 669 parts thrown in, but the feel of the 2nd gen double-stack compact in my hand just isnt right. This meant significant cutting of the grip frame, and then an expensive refinish. In the end I sold the parts on ebay, kept the frame for a “maybe” project down the road. Smith and Wesson really scored with the 6906! Got everything right.
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I bailed on the 469/669/659 project.
...... the feel of the 2nd gen double-stack compact in my hand just isnt right. ........ Smith and Wesson really scored with the 6906! Got everything right.
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Same for me..... as soon as the 6906 came out I got rid of my 469 with it's 2x4 grip!!!!!!! Never looked back!
Smith missed the boat in not continuing the 39s grip frame (with wood grips) on the 2nd Gen guns in my opinion......they should have built a single stack ASP/Scorpion/Trapper clone...... but at the time it was hard not to go for 12+1.
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I bailed on the 469/669/659 project. It was going to be a 659 slide on a 469 with a few 669 parts thrown in, but the feel of the 2nd gen double-stack compact in my hand just isnt right. This meant significant cutting of the grip frame, and then an expensive refinish. In the end I sold the parts on ebay, kept the frame for a “maybe” project down the road. Smith and Wesson really scored with the 6906! Got everything right.
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Sounds like a cool project.
I agree 6906 grip frame feels better than 469/669.
But don't give up yet!
6906 grip can be slightly modified to fit an unmodified 469/669 frame.
I did it with a 5906 grip on a 659 and the same techniques would apply.
I KNOW YOU CAN!
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Excellent old thread, worthy of making a 'sticky'.
I recently tried to grab some S&W 3913 mags from Midway (got 2!) for my new to me 3913NL but they sold out. Then I remembered this thread and Midway still had some S&W 3906 mags on closeout. SCORE! Now to locate some Pachmayer rubber mag sleeves for my new back-up mags! Thanks.
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...Smith and Wesson really scored with the 6906! Got everything right.
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Tend to agree, except over the years I have heard others remark about deficiencies in the accuracy department with the early guns. It’s true, at least in my case. I obtained one early on and never did find a load that made it purr. (Federal 9BP was the best.) But my 3913s always outshot it by a considerable margin, especially with Federal Hyrda-shoks. I eventually acquired one of the newer ones (with black MIM hammer) and it turned out to be much better. Nothing much has come along in the last twenty years that renders a good 6906 obsolete, IMO.
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I have a few alloy-framed&hammer-fired CZ's that are outstanding firearms. SP-01, P-01, RAMI. And a few SIG's too. But it's near impossible to find anything in a thin sub-compact DA/SA that compare's to the reliability, accuracy, durability or shoot-ability of S&W's venerable 3913's or CS9's.
Thanks Squidsix for the tip on the 9-round mag sleeve!
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I am of the opinion that if Kahr made the K-9 and P-9 with external hammers, we would have a great second choice.
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I am of the opinion that if Kahr made the K-9 and P-9 with external hammers, we would have a great second choice.
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Perhaps.
My CZ RAMI BD is close. Alloy-frame, hammer-fired, DA/SA. But just a bit too chubby for pocket-carry.
I keep hoping CZ will make something a bit smaller and thinner.
Polymer would be OK if it was Hammer-fired. CZ makes some excellent hammer-fired pistols!
Meanwhile....Thank Goodness, due to their durable construction, there's still plenty of decent 3rd Gen compacts out there to be had if you look. But of course prices are climbing for the really good ones, but still a bargain IMHO for these pistols designed to remain reliable (when serviced) with high round counts.
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Meanwhile....Thank Goodness, due to their durable construction, there's still plenty of decent 3rd Gen compacts out there to be had if you look. But of course prices are climbing for the really good ones, but still a bargain IMHO for these pistols designed to remain reliable (when serviced) with high round counts.
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I have not passed up a decent priced 391X or 908 that has crossed my path in a few years. Always on the lookout.
Also love my CZ PCR. Had the Cajun treatment done and it's super sweet.
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SquidSix,
Thanks for this post.
Bought two 9 round 3906 mags for my 3913NL and the Pachmayr KAHR MK9 mag sleeves from Midway; and with a bit of 150 grit sanding at the proper scribed angle on a flat surface, these work beautifully! Now 9+1 and the OA height only a tiny fraction taller! Thanks Again.
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Looks great! I added a tiny piece of skateboard tape to the front of mine, and filled the small cavity in the spacer with epoxy. I have three of them now. They all look like this:
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Did you guys use the provided mag bottom on yours? I started to cut the sleeve to fit the S&W factory mag bottom, but tried the included one for the Kahr and it worked fine.
I think I am going to take my soldering iron and do a light stipple on front of the spacer and see how it turns out.
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Hey squid, it looks like you ordered the sleeve for the PM9 and Vinny ordered the one for the MK9. The best I can tell, the only difference is the MK9 is rounded on the sides and the PM9 is flat, guess it depends on personal preference. I ordered the MK9 for mine.
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MK9 vs PM9 sleeves
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Just stippled the spacer on mine.
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