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Spring Loaded Decocker Only
For anyone interested, Numrich is showing the spring loaded decocker only for 3rd Gen guns as in stock. Listed under miscellaneous parts. Dealer price is aroud $30.00.
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For anyone interested, Numrich is showing the spring loaded decocker only for 3rd Gen guns as in stock. Listed under miscellaneous parts. Dealer price is aroud $30.00.
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Hey Gary,
There's a chance I may be needing a decocker/safety for a Mod. 915 in the near future. I'll know in a couple of days.
I went to that "miscellanious parts" section and couldn't find it.
If I do ever find it, how can I find out if it will fit a Mod. 915?
The 915 is a 3rd Gen., but not all parts are interchangeable for 3rd
Gen. pistols.
Thanks.
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I purchased one on clearance from Midway once but was never able to discover if it worked on a 9mm since, at the time, I had no pistols with the hole cut for the spring. I know that the regular ambi safety bodies for the 4506 and 5906 have different part numbers.
Smith & Wesson Spring Loaded Decock Assembly S&W 4506 - MPN: 262010000
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When you were born, I have the feeling everyone in the delivery room put their hands up.
You were probably the only baby ever born there who came out with a pistol in his hand.
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Assuming their picture is accurate, that's the part for 9mm/40 size guns. Still need to use the 45xx ambi lever kit to use it though. Plus a minor bit of Mill & Drill
The 4506 part in stock at Midway is not compatible with the small frame guns. That part can only be fit to 45xx or 10xx TDA guns and variants like the early single stack Forties.
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For anyone interested, Numrich is showing the spring loaded decocker only for 3rd Gen guns as in stock. Listed under miscellaneous parts. Dealer price is around $30.00.
Gary
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js,
When you were born, I have the feeling everyone in the delivery room put their hands up.
You were probably the only baby ever born there who came out with a pistol in his hand.
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Everyone needs a hobby. Since I'm single and retired, I may be able to devote a bit more time to it than others
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Everyone needs a hobby. Since I'm single and retired, I may be able to devote a bit more time to it than others
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Well, all I can say is your hobby has benifited many of us.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
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The 4506 part in stock at Midway is not compatible with the small frame guns. That part can only be fit to 45xx or 10xx TDA guns and variants like the early single stack Forties.
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I decided that was probably the case and sold it with a 4566 that was already milled for the part.
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So, that's an ambi lever, not a left side only one? I didn't think of that.
As to Mill and Drill, the group got sidetracked into a "Wimpy" discussion when I posted the picture of my 3913TSW slide and asked if the milling was for the decocker only.
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Assuming their picture is accurate, that's the part for 9mm/40 size guns. Still need to use the 45xx ambi lever kit to use it though. Plus a minor bit of Mill & Drill
The 4506 part in stock at Midway is not compatible with the small frame guns. That part can only be fit to 45xx or 10xx TDA guns and variants like the early single stack Forties.
Cheers
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So, that's an ambi lever, not a left side only one? I didn't think of that.
As to Mill and Drill, the group got sidetracked into a "Wimpy" discussion when I posted the picture of my 3913TSW slide and asked if the milling was for the decocker only.
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Hi, Gary!
If your 3913TSW is the later, railed version, it should already be "milled and drilled" for the "springer" decocker.
Yes, the one listed on Numrich is for the 9/40 series and it is ambi and you must use the 45 right side lever. (or it will fall out )
I have purchased and installed a few of these on non milled and drilled pistols by the simple expedient of milling the needed 3/16" long by 1/8" slot and drilling the 1/16" hole behind "Wimpy's nose" on a HF drill press. Very easy.
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John - do you have any pictures or know of a video that shows this? I have a Calif Hiway Patrol 4006 TSW that has the decocker only, and I can disassemble that to see how it works but am looking for any and all info before I start cutting my 4516. Thanks in advance for any help, and even if you get this post. Pat
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I use a 1/8" three flute carbide end mill with a 0.010" radius. It's the one on the left.
Fixture the slide on it's side, left side up of course, parallel to the X axis. The slot is 0.055 deep and about .1875 long after touchoff. I position the tool about 0.040 - 0.050 off the bottom of the hole then traverse the X to make the cut. Length of the cut is not really that critical, just don't run it all the way into the slide flat
Use the spring decocker to help eyeball where the drill the hole needs to be for anchoring the spring. I poke the hole with a 1/16" bitt. I used to drill it smaller about 0.045" until I broke off a tiny carbide bitt in the hole (big fun getting that outa there). After drilling through, take a 3/32 drill and twist by hand to bevel the hole a bit to ease installing the spring. That's about it.
Don't neglect to check your decock timing after changing decocker bodies. That's a must do item anytime you swap parts that interface with the sear release lever.
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John - do you have any pictures or know of a video that shows this? I have a Calif Hiway Patrol 4006 TSW that has the decocker only, and I can disassemble that to see how it works but am looking for any and all info before I start cutting my 4516. Thanks in advance for any help, and even if you get this post. Pat
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Hi, Pat!
I hope the previous two responses provide you with the information you seek.
Bill (BMCM) is operating his gun mod business through this forum and has made a substantial investment in tools and equipment.
Several members of this forum have availed themselves of his services and have expressed satisfaction with his prices.
I would never try to take food out of another working man's mouth, so you might want to contact him about doing the work for you.
OTOH, if you are not the sort of guy who is more comfortable with bubble wrap and packing tape than tools and dirty hands (Not that there's anything wrong with that. Some of my best friends are flower arrangers and interior designers. ) and still possess some of that good old "Can-do/Do-it-Yourself/Make America Great Again" spirit, send me a PM and I'll walk you through the process without a milling machine.
John
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