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Old 08-05-2018, 02:03 PM
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UPDATE- Decided to let it go to a buddy of mine who does a bit of collecting and likes 3rd gen S&W autos. It was a good deal for both of us, and the gun went to a great home! Thanks for your responses and upfront honestly about the gun.
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I picked this up locally to shoot up some leftover .40 that I had accumulated over the years.

Other than "show and tell" time, the main reason I am posting is to determine if you guys think this gun will go up in value over the next 10 years, or if it has hit the peak. I understand that only 550 were made, and some were converted to 10mm. Aside from that, I assume some were PD or hard use guns that are in well used or poor condition. Last year only 3 sold on Gunbroker, and all of those were in lesser condition. I have not seen any comps that are recent and in similar condition (Excellent 95-98%, 2 mags, no box/paperwork)

I am curious as to future collector value, the grip is a little short for my large hands and I won't shoot it. I am also slowly consolidating calibers, and .40 is on the chopping block once I shoot up my small stash. I have committed to stop buying .40 ammo once mine is gone. I simply prefer 9mm and .45acp.

To sum it up, should I put it in the safe as an investment or send it off to Gunbroker?




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Old 08-05-2018, 02:21 PM
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That’s a really nice 4014. I would be inclined to hang on to it, but I wouldn’t expect an astronomical increase in price, as say a rare N frame would bring over the next few years. If you do end up selling it, put it up for sale here first to “keep it in the family” so to speak.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:25 PM
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I thought about posting it for sale here, but since I am not an active member I don't expect much response.

For example, I sell stuff quick on AR15.com, but I have hundreds of postive feedback with 100%. People are comfortable dealing with me there. I personally will not buy ANYTHING from a person without significant feedback, and I wouldn't expect anyone to buy from me without it. I would probably do better on a site I am active on to be honest.

With that said, once I shoot up this ammo I will decide what to do with this one. IF I decide to sell it, it would not hurt to give it a week here and see what happens. After all, you guys are a wealth of knowledge and very helpful.

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To get top dollar you'll need to find a collector who needs/wants a 4014. (which is not me )...... not many made but it could be another 40 or 50 years till it's 'maybe" worth big $$$$s

To most it's just a single stack .40 ...... and .40s are slipping in popularity.

I'd list it here... it's where knowledge collectors congregate ... maybe price it a bit high and be willing to negotiate with interested buyers or slowly drop price till you get a bite or decide it's not worth selling.

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Old 08-05-2018, 03:09 PM
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If you list it here, and the price is right, I might be a buyer.
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:20 PM
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one of the few 40s that can be converted to 10mm.
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The reason so few were made is that everybody was buying it's stainless steel brother for the extra corrosion resistance. The 4014 was not a successful product offering.

In 30, 40 or more years, the low production number will make it more valuable than the 4013 simply because Collectors often want one of everything.

In today's market, they still bring less money than a 4013
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The reason so few were made is that everybody was buying it's stainless steel brother for the extra corrosion resistance. The 4014 was not a successful product offering.

In 30, 40 or more years, the low production number will make it more valuable than the 4013 simply because Collectors often want one of everything.

In today's market, they still bring less money than a 4013
I agree, stainless was getting really popular during the time these were made. That was a large part of why so few of these were made, they probably sat on the dealers shelf while everyone reached for the stainless models.
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I agree, stainless was getting really popular during the time these were made. That was a large part of why so few of these were made, they probably sat on the dealers shelf while everyone reached for the stainless models.
yep....... guns like the 3914s, 6904s and 586s shared much the same fate!!!!!
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:07 PM
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yep....... guns like the 3914s, 6904s and 586s shared much the same fate!!!!!
Fast forward 25 years and I can't find a decent 586 prelock to save my life. (At least not at a price I will pay)
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Old 08-05-2018, 05:53 PM
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To sum it up, should I put it in the safe as an investment or send it off to Gunbroker?
It looks like a very nice condition pistol to me, and somewhat rare in the big scheme of (3rd Gen) things... but no box or paperwork sort of takes it out of the high premium collector market. 95% to 98% is great for a shooter or economy collector... not so much if you are looking for that extra $50-$150 that those who can afford it pay for near "as-new" condition.

I don't think you can go wrong putting it on GB. You are correct that very little history here is an impediment to selling quickly and for top dollar on this forum. No question about that. Top dollar will most likely come from GB in this case.
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I have bought a few on here that were from one time posters . At first I was skeptical , but I got over it . My last one , a M59 , was LNIB . Believe me when I say , you put it up here , and I'd be surprised if it lasted 1-2 days .
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Thank you for taking the time to update us on your decision. I appreciate knowing what decision people make when they pose a question on the forum.
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Ten years ago I found a pristine 4014 on consignment and bought it. Although I had a 4013 since I bought it new in around 1995, I'd never seen a black one. So, I was not surprised when I ordered a factory letter and discovered only 550 were made. When you consider that black/blue alloy frame 3rd Gen Autos show every tiny nick and scratch, a pristine example of a 4014 may be even more rare than the 550 number indicates. Letting it go to a friend who collects S&W 3rd Gens was, IMHO, a great move.


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Some folks get too caught up in the rare factor, and forget about whether or not itís desirable. Itís a rare variant because it was undesirable compared to stainless, and still is. These blued variants will not go up in value just because they are rare. They have been rare for a long time, but theyíre not desirable for any real reason, so no one really cares, save for that tiny group of collectors who must have one of everything. I do think its cool to find one in such great shape, but in terms of any worthwhile value appreciation, itís just not going to happen

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