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Anyone here lucky enough to have an ASP or a Devel? Please take this opportunity to show them off! I want to see some detailed pics... make me jealous, please. I think the ASP is one of the coolest pistols ever made, and I love the story behind it. I wouldn’t overlook the Devel version either. They’re both splendid little blasters. Once day I hope to have one or the other
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the 669 is a fine pistol but other than being the same caliber and close in size there is no comparison in relation to an asp or a devel. but to each his own as they say.
i do have a devel buried deep in a safe. if i get around to it in the next few days i may dig it up and take a few pics.
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Stunning example s&wchad! lve never seen the leather case with the ASP logo before. Then again I haven’t seen many of these at all. I so wonder what it’s like to line up that guttersnipe and how fast it is. I’d pay actual money just to hold that pistol lol
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I’ve never shot it, so I can’t offer much on the speed of the sight. Paris Theodore designed these as a close range combat weapon, where you point shoot looking over the top of the slide and pick up the guttersnipe in your peripheral vision. I’m sure it’s better than no sights at all, but it’s no target pistol!
I would love to shoot it, but they’re worth silly money, parts are all but non-existent and the teflon finish is soft and marks easily. I’d probably shoot a Devel (if I could find one at a decent price), because stainless doesn’t show wear near as fast.
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I’ve never shot it, so I can’t offer much on the speed of the sight. Paris Theodore designed these as a close range combat weapon, where you point shoot looking over the top of the slide and pick up the guttersnipe in your peripheral vision. I’m sure it’s better than no sights at all, but it’s no target pistol!
I would love to shoot it, but they’re worth silly money, parts are all but non-existent and the teflon finish is soft and marks easily. I’d probably shoot a Devel (if I could find one at a decent price), because stainless doesn’t show wear near as fast.
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That is the perfect carry piece that no one would carry. Thanks for posting it next to the 39 also. Amazing
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I would love to shoot it, but they’re worth silly money, parts are all but non-existent and the teflon finish is soft and marks easily. I’d probably shoot a Devel (if I could find one at a decent price), because stainless doesn’t show wear near as fast.
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actually the devels are hard chrome finish.
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Absolutely... Brain fade on my part. Hard chrome is a great finish and I’d still shoot a Devel in a heartbeat!
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Thanks to the men who gave us the ASP and Devel........ if not for them we
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This is the only one I have. Devel Model 39-2 Full House Conversion. I have shot it. It's really a nice piece of craftsmanship. IMO
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This is the only one I have. Devel Model 39-2 Full House Conversion. I have shot it. It's really a nice piece of craftsmanship. IMO
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Gorgeous! So that is the double stack version then or no? More pics of that beauty would sure be sweet
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Not an ASP, or a Devel, but I love this little Austin Behlert M59.
Doesn't like light target loads but purrs with +Ps. Easily one of the most accurate pistols I have.
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Not an ASP, or a Devel, but I love this little Austin Behlert M59.
Doesn't like light target loads but purrs with +Ps. Easily one of the most accurate pistols I have.
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Never seen one of those... what can you tell me about that there pistol?
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in his comment above the pic he said it's a 39-2 so it's a single stack. a double stack would be a 59.
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Not mine, I passed, but I helped my LGS price it and get it sold on GB.
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This is close as I have, bobbed beaver-tail, Hi-Power cut slide, night sites, mag safety out and the trigger has been slicked up. Got it cheap.
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Also was wondering if anyone has ever seen the 39-13 ASP or heard of what happened that endeavor? I can’t find any info on the 39-13 except I’ve seen a photo of one once
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It's one of only two know Model 59's conversions Behlert did and the only 'blued' one. He accurized a bunch of them and did conversion on many other pistols but very few Model 59's.
A New York judge had him convert it and I bought it from John Jovino's when his wife sold it.
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if I didn't know better i'd say that was my devel.
then again maybe I should get in my safe and dig it up just to make sure mine's still there. 
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LOL I lusted over those guns in the early 80s........ but send them a gun and $1200-1400....... wow big $$$$s in those days!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fast forward to 1989...... 1st 3913s were a dream come true!!!!!! at about 1/5th the cost of a Devel , ASP or Behlert.
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I have to say the Devel, in my mind, is the prettiest little single stack pistol I’ve ever seen. I have a particular affinity for very small pistols that are reliable and combat worthy. I marvel at the engineering, time, and thought that went into these custom Smiths. The Devel just speaks to me. I don’t know if I’ll ever even hold one. I guess I have found my “grail gun”
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LOL I lusted over those guns in the early 80s........ but send them a gun and $1200-1400....... wow big $$$$s in those days!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fast forward to 1989...... 1st 3913s were a dream come true!!!!!! at about 1/5th the cost of a Devel , ASP or Behlert.
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There are still some collectors that don’t even know how Smith came up with the model 3913. If they would’ve listened to an unassuming holster maker, and went ahead with the design earlier, they could have maybe grabbed some more of that market before Glock steamrolled right over them. May have been typical big business not wanting to pay the man his dues, and just go ahead and copy him instead. I’ll see if I can find a good write up on the whole story to post
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There are still some collectors that don’t even know how Smith came up with the model 3913. If they would’ve listened to an unassuming holster maker, and went ahead with the design earlier, they could have maybe grabbed some more of that market before Glock steamrolled right over them. May have been typical big business not wanting to pay the man his dues, and just go ahead and copy him instead. I’ll see if I can find a good write up on the whole story to post
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I have that article on the Devel from Guns and Ammo from 1980 not just -the cover page. I'll post it if anyone is interested. (I do't think its copy write protected. It tells alot abut Charles Kelsey the inventor/ salesman/ shooter. The article speaks specifically about the Devel 59. I had a chance to buy 1 of each a full house 39 and 59 at the Columbus S&W meeting (Symposium) in 2013(?) I believe. I really love the Devel 39 ( Its the Ultimate package for 1980) although hindsight tells me I should have bought both as I have only seen a couple of partial conversions since then. Sometimes you have to take what seems to much money and amortize it over 10, 20 or 30 years or more... then it gets reasonable really fast.
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I have that article on the Devel from Guns and Ammo from 1980 not just -the cover page. I'll post it if anyone is interested. (I do't think its copy write protected. It tells alot abut Charles Kelsey the inventor/ salesman/ shooter. The article speaks specifically about the Devel 59. I had a chance to buy 1 of each a full house 39 and 59 at the Columbus S&W meeting (Symposium) in 2013(?) I believe. I really love the Devel 39 ( Its the Ultimate package for 1980) although hindsight tells me I should have bought both as I have only seen a couple of partial conversions since then. Sometimes you have to take what seems to much money and amortize it over 10, 20 or 30 years or more... then it gets reasonable really fast.
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I would love to read that article
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The ASP is just too cool. I'll probably never see one IRL much less own or even shoot one. Love the translucent grips and the sight.
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It's one of only two know Model 59's conversions Behlert did and the only 'blued' one. He accurized a bunch of them and did conversion on many other pistols but very few Model 59's.
A New York judge had him convert it and I bought it from John Jovino's when his wife sold it.
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Thanks for the detailed pics, that is certainly an interesting little pistol! I had no idea Behlert even did any 59’s. Very very cool
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Here is full article: I don't think it's a copy right infringement. If I it is I hope can count on the Mods to take it down!
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THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION. I DID NOT REMEMBER THE DEVEL AS BEING A STAINLESS WEAPON.....
THEN AGAIN, I'M AN OL' GEEZER WHO ALSO EXPERIENCES OCCASIONAL BRAIN FADES......
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Great read! Thank you for posting it mbliss57!!
I have always been amazed at what S&W stole....er..."borrowed" from Paris Theodore and Charles Kelsey. Regards 18DAI
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Great job! It wasn’t blurry or anything. I bet I would never had the pleasure to read that great old article, had you not been able to post it here. That’s just good stuff man
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The first ASP I’ve seen for sale in a loooooooong time just popped up on gunbroker. Search 39-2 asp
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Mercs, you may want to delete that auction link. Thats a no-no here now.
I never could afford an ASP, even if I had come across one. So I settled for this. Grandson of the ASP.  Regards 18DAI
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Good catch thx, I edited. Can’t argue with the CS9, at a tenth of the cost of this ASP. I carry a CS9 as well 
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There was also one that just ended on Sunday.
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ASP 9 mm
Here's mine worn a little but still great shooter
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An ASP that looks to have seen some action... VERY cool. You are lucky to be able to shoot that!
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