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Your 3913TSW looks very nice Mercs, but I would also say that it seems to have been fired at least a few hundred rounds. Looking at the front frame rails, you can see the wear there (see photo). Maybe that will help to ease your mind with carrying it.
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Your 3913TSW looks very nice Mercs, but I would also say that it seems to have been fired at least a few hundred rounds. Looking at the front frame rails, you can see the wear there (see photo). Maybe that will help to ease your mind with carrying it.
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Yes it’s “Like New” I suppose, or something like that. There’s one almost exactly like mine going over $800 on GB as we speak. The GB one shows signs of being fired, edge-wear, and marks from the levers on the rear. Watching to see how high it goes tonight
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No, mine has a stainless LS only safety/decocker. It has been shaved down to four steps and dehorned by BMCM. It changes the whole feel of how it carries.
I have the ambi lever put aside in case I sell the gun or for some other reason want to swap back. Unlikely though.
The right side lever seemed to be what poked some holes in a couple of shirts.
The black LS only versions do show up on Ebay from time to time. If you look for 908 parts, you might find one. I expect that the 915 or 910 uses the same assembly, but I can't swear to it. An assembly off of a 3914LS would work, but those are almost impossible to find.
Oddly enough, the CS45/457 black assemblies show up more often.
An ambi right side could be machined down, but then there is the plunger hole to deal with. Maybe that could be welded and machined down flush.
The last time I looked, Numrich had some ambi assemblies listed, but they aren't cheap.
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The LS safeties sure are about as rare as hens teeth. Does yours still have ambi levers? I was thinking if worst case, and if I could find a spare stainless ambi for cheap, he could just cut the right side flush, melt the left side, and then bead blast it or something. I don’t want the ambi levers on a carry gun.
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The 3913TSW pre-rail that I carry sports a blackened single-sided safety body, 1-piece guide rod, and XS 24/7 Standard Dot night sights that I absolutely love. The XS sights offer a very fast and easy sight acquisition that's also very open (you can see more of what's going on around the POI). Mine are plenty accurate for defensive shooting, and I've gone to these over Trijicons for my last few sets of night sights.
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Sound like the perfect setup. So you recommend the standard size dot over the Big Dot? Have you tried both? I’ve never tried either one
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No, mine has a stainless LS only safety/decocker. It has been shaved down to four steps and dehorned by BMCM. It changes the whole feel of how it carries.
I have the ambi lever put aside in case I sell the gun or for some other reason want to swap back. Unlikely though.
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Well played Gary... well played
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Sound like the perfect setup. So you recommend the standard size dot over the Big Dot? Have you tried both? I’ve never tried either one
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Yes, I have both the Big and Standard Dot XS sights on various guns, and while I like them both, I tend to prefer Standard on my 9mm guns and Big Dots on my 45ACP's. I find the Standard Dot plenty big, especially on compact guns with a shorter sight radius. For defensive purposes, I think you'll be happy with either size though.
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Looks like three bidders ran the GB one up to $870 with $40 shipping plus any dealer transfer fees.
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Looks like three bidders ran the GB one up to $870 with $40 shipping plus any dealer transfer fees.
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Makes it seem like a sin for me to ruin a rare gun in such good condition. This is so tough. I’m still going to shoot it, just to experience the delayed unlocking and sweet, sweet trigger. This trigger is unmatched by any factory Smith, Sig, or CZ DA/SA trigger. It’s got a little crunch from the mainspring that could be easily smoothed out, and the typical SA creep I’ve felt on 3rd gens is hardly noticeable. I’m not exaggerating, and anyone who has one of these knows what I mean. I will also keep looking for another one to carry. I have my CS9 which is definitely shooter grade to fill that role quite nicely for now
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I enjoyed looking at those pretty 3913 photos immensely
Gun porn LOL
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XS 24/7 big dots will never be confused for target sights....but for a ccw there is none better IMO.....especially for aged eyes ....I put them on my 3913NL from TercGen recommendation and coudn't be more pleased,,,
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I thought the reference to BHP and P228 a little “unusual.” They’re completely different guns - very fine guns, but much bigger and heavier to lug around. They’re not really in the same league with 3913/3914s.
As to accuracy, I’ve had several 3913s of different flavors over the years, as well as the other two guns mentioned. None of my 3913s have been slouches and my best one will outshoot every other 9mm I own (at close range, 25-yards or less) when you give it its preferred ammunition - Federal Hydra-shok 124s. It will shoot better than most of us can hold and squeeze.
I have no problems with DA/SA guns. If I were inclined to carry that gun, I’d do so without the slightest hesitation. If it’s got a good trigger, so much the better.
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I always wanted one of those early rail free 3913TSWs - till I shot Jeppos.
Don't get me wrong, they are very nice guns........not $800 or $1200 nice, IMO. But they are slightly bigger and slightly heavier than the CS9. And really have very little advantage over a standard 3913, which I already have.
So, I went with a stainless CS9 instead. The 3rd gen guns are not really sought after by "collectors", as far as I can tell. If you paid $800 or more for the gun, you will have to keep it for quite a few years to recoup your investment.
So were I you, with a very nice 3913TSW, that was made in small numbers, I'd put it in the safe and carry that nice CS9 instead. It will do everything you need a small accurate, reliable single stack 9mm to do. "Problem" solved. My 0.02 Regards 18DAI
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I always wanted one of those early rail free 3913TSWs - till I shot Jeppos.
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What's wrong with mine????
Was it the Hogues?
The sights?
The range?
The lunch?
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Absolutely NOTHING wrong with any of the things you listed my friend!
Your 3913TSW is a very fine pistol that shot very well. BUT - it was not what I expected or was looking for. It is, for all intents and purposes, a short gripped 3913 with more inherent accuracy built in by virtue of the oversized rails and delayed unlocking.
And I already had several VERY accurate 39XX series guns - which fit my hands better due to the longer grip frames and they all carry one more round than the 3913TSW. Not that matters, to me. I subscribe to the "you will be out of time long before you are out of ammo" theory due to my experience working homicides for 19 years.
What I did realize that day on your EXCELLENT range, was that the stainless CS9 was the gun I was looking for. Smaller, lighter and the same capacity as a 3913TSW and shot just as well, for me.
I normally carry 45s. I only own a few 9mms since I downsized a few years back. On the days I need a small 9mm, the CS9 normally gets the nod.
Thank you again Jeppo for the delicious lunch and fun day on the range. I always enjoy talking with you AND shooting with you! Best regards 18DAI
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Jeppo has his own range????....I need new friends ......Mercs..I have been in the same situation as you....too nice to use as a ccw....but not a collector as such...... 18 has the solution.....if finances aren't a consideration put it back for range use since it already has had light use...... and carry grade 3913's aren't hard to find.......YET....
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Did I hear something about a field trip to Jeppo’s range? I know I heard sandwiches
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@18DAI, I just needed clarification about the condition of the gun. You see, based on what I'm reading in this thread, I'm hoping somebody's gonna offer me $1200 for it.
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18DAI, is being generous. What I've put together is more like a "cook top" than a "range". I'm fortunate to be just over the county line into a rural area where there are no restrictions.
Further, I was more or less compelled to create my own place to shoot. I grew tired of people at commercial ranges running screaming in fear when I showed up.
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Let's get honest here... A 3913 TSW is not some rare gem. They are scarce due to low manufacturing volume. If they sell/sold on GB every day for $1000 a pop and you bought one for $500 and want to make some money put it on GB and take the extra $500 and buy something else.End of story. It happens every day.
Other wise carry it and shoot it... that's what they were made for anyway.
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Let's get honest here... A 3913 TSW is not some rare gem. They are scarce due to low manufacturing volume. If they sell/sold on GB every day for $1000 a pop and you bought one for $500 and want to make some money put it on GB and take the extra $500 and buy something else.End of story. It happens every day.
Other wise carry it and shoot it... that's what they were made for anyway.
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Thanks for being honest. Since rare is a synonym of scarce, and they’re used interchangeably, I honestly have no idea what point you’re trying to make.
Also, I think you completely misunderstood my OP. I’m not trying to make money on this gun. I don’t want a different gun to replace it either.
Finally, I did receive very helpful and meaningful advice via PM from someone who knows what they’re talking about. My boys will be glad for that one day. This thread might as well be closed
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OP.. you completely misunderstood MY point. I have been doing this awhile as well. My point was this...Starting a collection with this gun is not your best option. As time wears on...3rd Gen lovers will become more and more scarce as we die off and the prices for 3rd Gen S&Ws will eventually fall off to little or nothing. I am talking 10-30 years.
They are already hardly known by anyone but a few people now anyway. As opposed to a Colt Python or a registered magnum. So to truly save it because it's a collectors gun is ill advised in my opinion unless you truly want to collect for collecting sake and not for it to become more valuable so you can make more money from it.
I have a black/blue model 39 collection from pre model 39 through 2nd Gen to 3rd Gen 39xxs and every pistol made in between. ( I am missing a a couple exampes so it's not finished) No nickel or SS in this collection by choice/ design. I collect them because its a good hobby and fun to chase the "hard to find" gun in collector grade condition. That's why you should collect something. Otherwise if good fortune smiles on you take the windfall and move on. In your case it's a bit of a toss up. I might sell it if I had that good of a deal and use the extra for something else. If it's a gun you really have wanted to have as a carry pistol then you got lucky/ savvy with a good price.Then take good fortune and carry / shoot the snot out of it.
Rare and scarce or not synonymous as I have known them. This is a good example. The 3913TSW is scarce. They are hard to find. Not common as compared to a 9mm M&P which are found on every corner. A Pre Model 39 is also a scarce gun due to limited supply. Rare on the other hand refers to the inherent value due to it's scarcity and providence. A rare book is often referred to as rare due because it is scarce but also because it has been deemed valuable by collectors or society. The Guttenburg Bible is very rare.
The many 1st edition books would be considered scarce but only certain of those 1st edition books would be rare due to the value in society that we place on them. Many S&W guns types are scarce but not many are valuable in the eyes of those placing the value on them. Back to your example.. or mine as I have a lot of scarce guns...for example my Model 39 Duvel is a scarce gun. It does have good value too but it's still not considered rare. A rare gun would be a Reg magnum owned by a former president. It's not only scarce but it's providence puts it in the rare category as well. Here a definition I think is correct:← Advance your career in 2014 Don’t Fall Victim to Information Overload →
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Use rare to describe an item that is distinctive or unusual—such as “a rare book” or “a rare failure.” Use scarce to refer to something that is hard to find or available only in limited numbers.
Ok I have rambled enough. I am not at all putting your sweet 3913TSW down..It's a great find. And truly congratulations. Good luck with which ever way you choose to go.
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As time wears on...3rd Gen lovers will become more and more scarce as we die off and the prices for 3rd Gen S&Ws will eventually fall off to little or nothing. I am talking 10-30 years.
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Thank you. I can see that you are trying to be helpful. Following that logic, revolvers will be worthless even sooner though, so everyone should probably exit that market. I just want to point out that I’m in my mid-thirties (surprised?), and I don’t plan on dying anytime soon. Having 3 kids, I can’t become a major collector until they’re all on their own. So the time when I will be most actively buying, might not be for another 15-20 years. I would wager that your statement about “3rd gen lovers” is a generalization that will not hold true over time, using myself and my friends (who all love my CS9, one of whom has recently purchased a CS9) as examples. I don’t think many of the 3rd gen lovers here even realize how savvy they are, yet.
I also find it interesting to note that from the rhetoric on this thread, hardly anyone at all is interesting in preserving this pistol at the current time, when there’s already a scarce amount left in this condition. That observation is of great importance to me, and part of the reason I actually started the thread. Thanks again to everyone who posted
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In collecting anything condition is everything, the only reason a 3913TSW brings over a grand is due to condition. As a matter of fact that was one reason I did not want to sell the one I had for anything less than that. I figured who ever pays that much for it is bound to cherish it as much as I did. When you carry these tactical BB guns it wears off the decals. That combined with little to no metal wear is what makes a 3913tsw more valuable than others. I am sure there were at least 500 or so made in that series but finding a 99+ percent model could be less than 10 in existence. You do what you want to with it, my Shorty 40 is a 95+ percent gun as well, shooters in this piece would be standard 3913s and 14s along with the 6906.
Finding a buyer is one thing had my 99+ percent 3913TSW not found a new home for that price then I would still have it today. I wasn't going to let a piece like it go for anything less than the value that was placed on it as I knew I would NEVER find another in its condition.
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I take it you don’t plan to use the gun, which is fine. These days, it seems if you rathole a really nice example of almost anything it is likely that in the future you will find a generous buyer for it, if you look long enough - and if it’s still legal to own. (“Really nice example” comes down to absolutely mint condition with box and all the goodies the gun came with.)
I wouldn’t bet one way or another or whether Third Generation S&W autos will some day be considered mainstream collectibles. Look at the Model 58 and the 3-1/2” Model 27. When I was your age, no one I knew wanted them! New ones sat unsold in gunshops for years. Now they have a “cult” following that has driven up prices beyond my imagination.
I think it’s great you and a few of your friends are enthusiastic about the S&W automatics. Good luck and more power to you.
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Mbliss...... I'm back from 5 days at the cabin....
Question; scarce vs. rare..... where do you draw the line.....there were only 1600 pre-39s....... 5,000+ Registered Magnums.
But both in 98%+ condition are rare....... and more valuable than less well preserved specimens of that model.
IIRC there are only a handful of Guttenburg Bibles still in existence (49 according to Wikipedia) .... so very scarce and very valuable no matter their condition...... valuable; how do we know as none have been sold since 1978. ...... no market or just another priceless 'family" heirloom??????
TTSH don't worry ..... you've got a few good years left!!!
As to the 3913TSW as I said earlier I'd consider carrying it; if I could accumulate at least 6 magazines...... if not I'd keep it a virgin and look for a 3913 NL....... "non-ladysmith" if you catch my drift!!!!
AS to what will be collectible...... who can guess....... from my own experience you couldn't give away 3" 66s in the late 80s, 586s were covered in dust sitting next to 4" 27s......... Performance Center Autos from the early 90s either didn't sell or were traded back at pennies on the dollar. PPKs were unknown until James Bond had to give up is Beretta..... Pythons had faded from the general public's thoughts until the Zombies returned...........pair the next hit movie with Tom Cruise or Jason Bourne with a 3914NL and who knows.!!!!!
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You must be using a sliding scale for your "formula". You've been telling him that since I got on here!
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Not so many anymore Bam. In fact, I think my "good years" are all behind me now. But even worse, if my 3rd Gen collection is worthless (or headed for worthlessness), what am I supposed to tell the good wife? She thinks she's gonna make out like a bandit selling them once I'm gone.
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Not so many anymore Bam. In fact, I think my "good years" are all behind me now. But even worse, if my 3rd Gen collection is worthless (or headed for worthlessness), what am I supposed to tell the good wife? She thinks she's gonna make out like a bandit selling them once I'm gone.
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Oh,ya... aaaaaaaaaaa... it's ok; you'll have forgotten all this by tomorrow!!!
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I've forgotten it already. One of the many joys of senility!
BTW, for the record, the pristine perfect pre-rail Model 3913TSW in question should not be carried. It is much too rare/scarce (or is it scarce/rare?) and valuable for that. Why put such a valuable gun at risk? Carry cheap, disposable plastic like I do or simply go for a plain vanilla Model 3913.
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For me the CS9 and 3913TSW Models were "splitting hairs".... solving a problem that really didn't exit.... S&W looking to develop a new market in the years when they (along with Sig) were introducing us to "the gun a month" club
but not really improving on the "practical conceal-ability" of the 3913/14.
Whichever model you have; don't pass up the opportunity to carry one of, if not the best, single stack concealed carry 9mm ever commercially offered in the hopes that it will be worth $$$$ in 20 or 30 years
TTTSH live those good years with style...... a single malt Scotch, a pretty woman on your arm...driving a sleek, low slung,gull wing (manual transmission) auto.. with a single stack 3rd Gen 9mm on your hip.
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I've forgotten it already. One of the many joys of senility!
BTW, for the record, the pristine perfect pre-rail Model 3913TSW in question should not be carried. It is much too rare/scarce (or is it scarce/rare?) and valuable for that. Why put such a valuable gun at risk? Carry cheap, disposable plastic like I do or simply go for a plain vanilla Model 3913.
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This seems like excellent advice. I'm gonna hide my TSW so even I can't find it. Meanwhile, I'll have one of my plain vanilla 3913's dipped in plastic to achieve the best of both worlds.
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TTSH live those good years with style...... a single malt Scotch, a pretty woman on your arm...driving a sleek, low slung, gull wing (manual transmission) auto.. with a single stack 3rd Gen 9mm on your hip.
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In my condition, I'll settle for a 8"-wheeled aluminum rollator in glossy black, a nice cold 12 oz can of Coors Light... and the good (senior nurse) wife.
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This seems like excellent advice. I'm gonna hide my TSW so even I can't find it. Meanwhile, I'll have one of my plain vanilla 3913's dipped in plastic to achieve the best of both worlds.
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An excellent approach! I approve!
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And yet you laughed at me for entering the Grip Zonnnnnnnne!
Teaser alert. I'll be doing a side by side 3913TSW to Springfield XD-E comparison soon.
I just have to get to the range to shoot them side by side.
Too ease TTSH's mind, I bought the Talon stick on grips for the XD-E. In addition to being super grippy, they cover the "Grip Zonnnnnnne" lettering. Hopefully, I'll still remember where to grip the firearm when shooting.
For home area carry, my no longer pristine 3913TSW will sit on my hip. Of travel out of state, it will likely be the XD-E.
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I've forgotten it already. One of the many joys of senility!
BTW, for the record, the pristine perfect pre-rail Model 3913TSW in question should not be carried. It is much too rare/scarce (or is it scarce/rare?) and valuable for that. Why put such a valuable gun at risk? Carry cheap, disposable plastic like I do or simply go for a plain vanilla Model 3913.
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Mbliss...... I'm back from 5 days at the cabin....
Question; scarce vs. rare..... where do you draw the line.....there were only 1600 pre-39s....... 5,000+ Registered Magnums.
But both in 98%+ condition are rare....... and more valuable than less well preserved specimens of that model.
IIRC there are only a handful of Guttenburg Bibles still in existence (49 according to Wikipedia) .... so very scarce and very valuable no matter their condition...... valuable; how do we know as none have been sold since 1978. ...... no market or just another priceless 'family" heirloom??????
TTSH don't worry ..... you've got a few good years left!!!
As to the 3913TSW as I said earlier I'd consider carrying it; if I could accumulate at least 6 magazines...... if not I'd keep it a virgin and look for a 3913 NL....... "non-ladysmith" if you catch my drift!!!!
AS to what will be collectible...... who can guess....... from my own experience you couldn't give away 3" 66s in the late 80s, 586s were covered in dust sitting next to 4" 27s......... Performance Center Autos from the early 90s either didn't sell or were traded back at pennies on the dollar. PPKs were unknown until James Bond had to give up is Beretta..... Pythons had faded from the general public's thoughts until the Zombies returned...........pair the next hit movie with Tom Cruise or Jason Bourne with a 3914NL and who knows.!!!!!
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Good questions Bam Bam. I don't have a good answer to the line between scarce and rare. It seems to be a moving target as well.
Most collectors have valuable collections of scarce and rare guns because they just like to collect guns and over decades some become either rare or just more valuable. I think the 'trick" is to not plan for it, just do what you like to do and if you happen to be in possession of a rare/ valuable guns in years to come then good for you. How you collect (condition is everything) is much more intentional. So if you like collecting 3rd Gens or certain models of that variant then go for it. I could be dead wrong about their value in 20 -30 years. I am just speculating based on how I perceive the collectors market.
TTSH I do strongly believe that collecting 3rd gens as a retirement or inheritance windfall is dicey at best. There are a lot of ways to make grow wealth for later in life than collecting guns. But I wouldn't tell my wife that.. my collecting will always have an heir to inherit the nice shiny gun I bring home. It's a good line I have used often and it's not untrue. The guaranteed monetary value of that collection when I am gone is what is speculative.
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And yet you laughed at me for entering the Grip Zonnnnnnnne!
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Hey, it's no secret that poor old TTSH advocates the carrying of cheap disposable plastic in lieu of our beloved and irreplaceable (in some cases) 3rd Gens! It's been that way for a very long time now.
It is true that I don't own any plastic wonder guns that point out precisely where I should grip the gun... ... but I'm not so senile yet that I can't figure it out in most cases.
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The 3913 was the best CCW gun in the 3rd Gen series, in my opinion.
I say carry it, but keep in mind that parts are getting harder to get. If you plan to use it long term, get some springs, extractors, etc., while you can.
Forum member Fastbolt can likely give you a list of parts that require replacement over time.
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TTSH I do strongly believe that collecting 3rd gens as a retirement or inheritance windfall is dicey at best. There are a lot of ways to make grow wealth for later in life than collecting guns. But I wouldn't tell my wife that.. my collecting will always have an heir to inherit the nice shiny gun I bring home. It's a good line I have used often and it's not untrue. The guaranteed monetary value of that collection when I am gone is what is speculative.
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Well, I look at it this way: Every night when I come home from the senior center, I check my rollover IRA and see how much money I lost that day. Then, I look at my gun collection and ask myself how much value did my collection lose that day. In most cases, my gun collection has turned out to be the safer and better investment of the two.
But you do have me concerned about my investment in 3rd Gens possibly crashing to zero in coming years. That would not be pretty. The good wife would probably leave me if that happened since I've been telling her that guns & ammo (in general) and 3rd Gens (in particular) are better investments than my pathetic little IRA. That's the reason she lets me buy what I buy. If it all turns out to have been wrong, I'm in big, BIG trouble.
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Honestly, if anyone has one of these without box and more of a shooter condition, I’ll buy it right now for a fair price. Still looking for a 4040pd at a reasonable price as well
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To the extent this has become a sale price thread...I just sold a used 85% short grip, no rail, 3913TSW with no box and two mags for $500 to a locally (Charlotte, NC). It's hard to rate a used stainless gun...I say 85% to reflect that it was 100% mechanically but showed real carry wear.
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