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CHP 4006TSW: Where are they??
I'm seriously thinking about adding a .40 cal gun to the "collection." Particularly a CHP 4006TSW as my best buddy is a retired Chip (he was still carrying a wheel gun -- big Colt Python -- when he left the Patrol); I have a couple of TSWs and like them; and, although I hate adding another caliber to the safe (they seem to breed on their own) I might relent and add .40.
[I wanted one top break, saw a good deal on an H&R Defender in 38S&W and before I knew it, I had 4 more 38S&Ws: a 33-1, a snub-nosed Defender; a Colt Police Positive, and a pre-war 38/200. Where the heck did they all come from?]
So here's my questions: First, besides Gunbroker and an LGS, does anyone know where they are found online? None here on this board and a web search turned up zilch.
Next, how do they shoot? I'm assuming function/recoil/etc. is somewhere between my S&W 4566 and a 5906.
Finally, what's a decent price. On GB they go from low $400's to silly high. Is $430 a reasonable price? (depending on condition, of course.)
Of course I could just plunk down $250 for a 38/200 British Victory and call it a day, no more guns this month....but that never works.
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4006 TSW
Summitgunbroker.com had the CHP 4006TSW for a long time. Now shows out of stock. They still have 4013TSW CHP guns listed as of a few min. ago.
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I can tell you that Shoot Straight in Central Florida had an entire table of 4046TSW trade-in’s from Brinks at last weekends Orlando gun show with varying degrees of holster wear and grime for $329 each.
I picked up one a few months back and after a thorough cleaning, new recoil springs and Hogue grips it looks nearly new and shoots even better. It’s amazing what a bit of dirt can hide!
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On Gun broker this was 399 and rated by seller as Very Good
Some lite scratches and holster wear
Went back to factory and has a pass quality check on box
Haven’t shot it yet
But w shipping tax and Ca fees
Another 75
I like the story and chp serial
Would I pay more than that proably not
But this not “collector”
Quality but it’s my collection and I intend to shoot it
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I don’t have a single round of .40, yet, but have this.
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The supply on these CHP 4006TSW's has shrunk a bit, but there's still plenty on Gunbroker. Paying in the $400's is not a bad price at all, these are integral-rail models and once the supply runs out, I expect the price on these to climb. Some folks are already asking the high price, but evidently they don't look at how many are still being offered for less...
Being all-steel, they will soak up recoil very nicely, and be one of the softer-shooting .40's out there. In general, recoil will still be sharper than a 5906 or a 4566, but easily manageable, even with the lighter 155g loads.
I love my CHP 4006TSW, and I would recommend getting one while they are still somewhat plentiful.
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Call Summit and ask to get on his waiting list for a CHP 4006. That worked for me, took about 3 weeks to get mine. I bought a 4013TSW from him too, both purchases went smoothly.
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Gun Broker, Waiting for the FFL guys to take care of the behind the scenes stuff and it be here already.
Me: .40S&W is a stupid round. What idiot would buy those?
Also Me: This one is an all metal gun essentially designed for the round so....
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Call Summit and ask to get on his waiting list for a CHP 4006. That worked for me, took about 3 weeks to get mine. I bought a 4013TSW from him too, both purchases went smoothly.
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What’s the quality? or is it random hit or miss
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The supply on these CHP 4006TSW's has shrunk a bit, but there's still plenty on Gunbroker. Paying in the $400's is not a bad price at all, these are integral-rail models and once the supply runs out, I expect the price on these to climb. Some folks are already asking the high price, but evidently they don't look at how many are still being offered for less...
Being all-steel, they will soak up recoil very nicely, and be one of the softer-shooting .40's out there. In general, recoil will still be sharper than a 5906 or a 4566, but easily manageable, even with the lighter 155g loads.
I love my CHP 4006TSW, and I would recommend getting one while they are still somewhat plentiful.
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Yeah I got the cheapest one I could find that didn't look like a YouTube torture test was done on it by 3 channels back to back. There was one going for like $1100 and I was crying about a $429 buy it now price. Funny thing is I was looking for 5906 and 4506 and wow they cost way more than this did with less features. My 1st .40 S&W was a gen 3 Glock 22 so this will be a relief compared to that. It felt as if the gun twisted on the axis the bullet spins down the barrel. Like torque steer in a FWD car.
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Call Summit and ask to get on his waiting list for a CHP 4006. That worked for me, took about 3 weeks to get mine. I bought a 4013TSW from him too, both purchases went smoothly.
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a word of warning, do not shoot 'hot loads' through the 4013tsw. the dept. had them for more than 20 yrs., and the frames will crack at the mag. well. replace the recoil springs
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What’s the quality? or is it random hit or miss
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I was very pleased with the condition of the CHP 4006TSW - the condition was 90% IMHO. The 4013TSW had some wear, but nothing I didn't expect. Both are law enforcement trade ins, so there must be some randomness in condition. He does have a representative photo of each on his web site. Both firearms worked great - I completed a 8 hour training class with the 4013TSW back in August and had no problems.
I paid $385 for the CHP 4006TSW and $395 for the 4013TSW, plus shipping which was about $20.
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The gunbroker seller I used started rating them excellent at 650
I’m happy with the shooter I received for 399
But I wouldn’t pay 650 for an Internet sale
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I purchased 2 from Summit Gun Broker. He is a class act guy. Was VERY pleasant to work with. Offered me the opportunity to wait for the next shipment in order to obtain high condition samples.
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My experience with Summit Gunbroker was exactly that - hit and miss. One 4006TSW was in VG condition, the other was in Good-minus condition, with lots of surface wear and a messed up guide rod. That's the problem when you cannot see the used gun you are signing up to buy. If I bought another 4006TSW, I would use an auction site where I could visually inspect the gun first.
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For those guys that purchased these - what springs have you needed to replace?
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Recoil I couln't feel the difference that I did when I swapped the original 469 one out. Mainspring visually wasn't that bad but trigger pull felt heavier afterwards. Tomorrow range visit will tell with new springs, grip and a rear sight that isn't pegged far right.
Recoil: left old right new
Mainspring: right old left new
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My experience with Summit Gunbroker was exactly that - hit and miss. One 4006TSW was in VG condition, the other was in Good-minus condition, with lots of surface wear and a messed up guide rod. That's the problem when you cannot see the used gun you are signing up to buy. If I bought another 4006TSW, I would use an auction site where I could visually inspect the gun first.
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I only had one experience, mine that got shipped was "nice", but I called and asked for a hand pick and was willing to wait on another shipment. The reports of getting darn near new examples might have tainted my experience.
That said, this thing is a tank and I enjoy it every time I shoot it.
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My experience with Summit Gunbroker was exactly that - hit and miss. One 4006TSW was in VG condition, the other was in Good-minus condition, with lots of surface wear and a messed up guide rod. That's the problem when you cannot see the used gun you are signing up to buy. If I bought another 4006TSW, I would use an auction site where I could visually inspect the gun first.
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Good luck on that, the gun pictured isn't the one that came to my FFL. I'm like yes I finally found the one at the price, lets pull the trigger. She was blond when we talked and a redhead showed up in person. I got Gatfished.
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I have a 4006 TSW CHP gun en-route, should have it Wednesday.. Paid 399 appears to be in pretty good condition. Assuming it is the one pictured.
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Received the CHP 4006 it is indeed in very good condition. Hardly any wear on the slide. Needs new grips, (should have them in a few days) shoots fine.
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Just bought a excellent+from same seller on Gunbroker, along with five extra magazines. Now I have to wait till it ships. They look beautiful, and go well with my 5903 and 6906. Next will be a 4506
BTW: what load is everyone using on these? I have both the Federal 180 grain HST and the old Remington/Winchester/Federal 155 grain INS load (about 5,000 rounds I got twenty years ago stored in nice water/air proof cans before I went to USCS OI). I have seen Beretta 96D Brigadeer crack frames with that load, and only the HK USP and original Sig 229 could handle that load. But man, did that 155 grain round cause damage! I don’t want to be damage this beautiful pistol, so I can stick with 180grain.
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Get your self one they do not make them like this any more , and they keep going up .
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I am thinking about a second one now.. Can handle any 40 round they are a very solid gun like the 4506, 1006..
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Mine has lots of holster wear but I'm content with it as the pics of a totally different gun had worse wear on it. Also glad my gun came with the hogue grips so I got to shoot it and realize it wasn't for me. Curved is what eventually went on my gun. Not going to lie I wasn't shooting it as good as my 469 and didn't help the sights were like this when I got it... Eventually I got better with it. The weight of the gun makes the .40 feel like I'm shooting 9mm out a Glock 19.
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For the folks asking what I meant by earlier post.
Gun I was bidding on and what showed up. I got lucky and didn't make a huge deal.
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4006 TSW
FYI - CHP 4006 TSW in stock again at Summit Gun Broker. Great guy to deal with and they are at a fair price.
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FYI - CHP 4006 TSW in stock again at Summit Gun Broker. Great guy to deal with and they are at a fair price.
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Got mine two days ago; feels and looks great. Only thing I am adding is Trijicon night sights I bought yesterday.
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Got mine two days ago; feels and looks great. Only thing I am adding is Trijicon night sights I bought yesterday.
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I started my search at Summit gun broker a while ago but he didn't have any in really nice shape and his inventory didn't replenish. I searched GB and also found I Buy Right who had very detailed pictures and took the guess work out of what I was getting. I saw for myself what I'd end up with which helped. I paid more for an excellent+ model but have never been upset for paying a little more for a gun in great shape and not second guessing why I did. I shot it and enjoyed the pistol. You cannot get the extras that's put into the TSW pistols for the price at any other manufacturer currently in my opinion. Heavy yes, solid heck yes. Enjoy your TSW and especially your CHP version fellow shooters.
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I started my search at Summit gun broker a while ago but he didn't have any in really nice shape and his inventory didn't replenish. I searched GB and also found I Buy Right who had very detailed pictures and took the guess work out of what I was getting. I saw for myself what I'd end up with which helped. I paid more for an excellent+ model but have never been upset for paying a little more for a gun in great shape and not second guessing why I did. I shot it and enjoyed the pistol. You cannot get the extras that's put into the TSW pistols for the price at any other manufacturer currently in my opinion. Heavy yes, solid heck yes. Enjoy your TSW and especially your CHP version fellow shooters.
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Reason I've been holding off for TSW 5903's. The regulars come and go all the time.
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I started my search at Summit gun broker a while ago but he didn't have any in really nice shape and his inventory didn't replenish. I searched GB and also found I Buy Right who had very detailed pictures and took the guess work out of what I was getting. I saw for myself what I'd end up with which helped. I paid more for an excellent+ model but have never been upset for paying a little more for a gun in great shape and not second guessing why I did.
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I'm with you 100%. God bless those folks who are willing to order off the Internet without so much as a fuzzy photo or two. That takes courage and bravery beyond my capacity. Poor as I am, I'm willing to pay more... sometimes a lot more... to know what I am getting.
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Do the 4013TSW, used by the CHP, have CHP serial numbers ?
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I carry one everyday and love it. Got mine from Kings, they just had some not long ago for Black Friday. Mine was like new for 419
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Summit has them again . Can't say enough about him , he's great . I've bought 4 Smiths' off him , and I wouldn't hesitate to buy from him again . According to his site , he's going to be retiring . Too bad , I hope whoever buys his business cares about the customers like he does .
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they do not have CHP serial numbers, but have the CHP control numbers on the right side of the slide, barrel, frame. careful when buying, they tend to crack at the mag. well / top of the frame.
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CHP 4006TSW: Where are they??
Well finally took my TSW 4006 out
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