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Old 01-10-2020, 04:33 PM
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I'm not the seller, and unfortunately, I can't be the buyer, but I did see the 457D for sale.

The ad included the best, and about the only, pictures of a CPD 457D that I've seen.

What I noticed is that the gun has the same sort of hump back trigger that my pre rail 3953TSW has.

This seems to indicate that the gun was not built along the same lines as the 3914DAO that doesn't have that style of trigger.

So, I have to wonder if the 457D has the "second strike" capability that the 3914DAO does?

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Gary, with the S&W pre-staged, DAO rounded hammer, extended slide, and rear set trigger, I'll bet it's a S&W pre-staged, NON second strike action.

Just like most of the S&W DAOs.

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I missed the extended slide, not to mention the rear set trigger.

I should drag out one of my regular 457s and compare them side by side.

The SCSW doesn't even mention this variation. I wonder if the seller would be willing to share the production code and some more pictures? It would certainly be a nice little addition to what we know about this rare variation.

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Gary, with the S&W pre-staged, DAO rounded hammer, extended slide, and rear set trigger, I'll bet it's a S&W pre-staged, NON second strike action.

Just like most of the S&W DAOs.

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Pretty cool model, seen only rarely



These were non-second strike models. Apparently there are a handful of early guns made with second strike made for some lucky CPD folks. I am not aware of the config of the ones that had second strike, I'm guessing they did not have the extended slide as the traditional DAO third guns, like the one in the pic above.
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Mine definitely is not second strike capable.


Like the 3953, it has a hammer that rests in a half-cock position after the slide cycles. It makes for a decent trigger pull by if the slide doesn’t cycle after pulling the trigger the gun is inoperable until the slide is manually cycled.
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Nice pictures. As I mentioned in this thread, the SCSW authors would like your pictures, SN information, and anything else you might want to send them. There's scant knowledge about these guns out there.

BTW, does your box have the label on it? It would be interesting to see what the product code is.

I did a conversion to DOA, but that was by removing the SA notch on the hammer. That gave DAO, but with a very long trigger pull. I eventually converted it back.

Anyway, your pictures show the detail of the DAO hammer and other features of the 457D very well.



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Like the 3953, it has a hammer that rests in a half-cock position after the slide cycles. It makes for a decent trigger pull by if the slide doesnít cycle after pulling the trigger the gun is inoperable until the slide is manually cycled.
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Nice pictures. As I mentioned in this thread, the SCSW authors would like your pictures, SN information, and anything else you might want to send them. There's scant knowledge about these guns out there.

BTW, does your box have the label on it? It would be interesting to see what the product code is.

I did a conversion to DOA, but that was by removing the SA notch on the hammer. That gave DAO, but with a very long trigger pull. I eventually converted it back.

Anyway, your pictures show the detail of the DAO hammer and other features of the 457D very well.
It does have a label but it a little messed up.
Iím happy to let you use my photos. I can take others as well.

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That's just a bit too faded for my eyes.

As to the photos and submission to the SCSW, that's your prerogative. I was just suggesting that you might want to do that. I think that the authors would be interested in nice pictures of a rare variation.



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A little warm air from a hair dryer might loosen that clumsily applied strip of masking tape to reveal the factory end label.

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