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Old 02-13-2020, 03:50 PM
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Do they even have any frames to replace it with. If they can't repair, I bet you get half off an M&P
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Any update? What did S&W say?
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You have spun the S&W Customer Service "Wheel of Fortune".

Literally anything can happen.

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Ayup. Sent in an old 629 that I bought used for repair and a polish job. Came back, all they charged was for the polish job.
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Nothing yet still gotta send it off have been busy
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:27 PM
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No to CHP, yes to " well we can offer you a credit to buy a xyz". If you were good with that weapon find another one NIB if you can...
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Just checked GB... LOTS of them 500.00 and Under, 1 NIB 900.00.
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Old 03-23-2020, 01:16 AM
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I’m more curious to see if a gunsmith like Bruce Gray etc. can weld the steel frame. I was honestly shocked to see a cracked frame in a CHP 4006. I have one and now I’m considering a couple more just to have parts if nothing else.
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Just checked GB... LOTS of them 500.00 and Under, 1 NIB 900.00.
Do you have a link to the NIB 4006 TSW? The only thing I’ve seen at $900 is a “custom” 4006 TSW whatever that’s supposed to mean.
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Do you have a link to the NIB 4006 TSW? The only thing Iíve seen at $900 is a ďcustomĒ 4006 TSW whatever thatís supposed to mean.
It means they want to get 900-bucks for it. I love overpriced guns with dubious and unsubstantiated gravitas. Ask them for the details or if there's paperwork and watch the bravado just melt.
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Old 03-23-2020, 02:51 PM
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It means they want to get 900-bucks for it. I love overpriced guns with dubious and unsubstantiated gravitas. Ask them for the details or if there's paperwork and watch the bravado just melt.
We have a local trade site here in GA where folks trade firearms and other outdoor stuff. There is this one seller that always leads with "rare" or "hard to find" on about everything he sells. Seen someone else that list an Ar-15 as "pre-ban". They look like a bunch of salesmen trying to justify their high price. I generally steer clear of those folks.

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Old 03-23-2020, 03:29 PM
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I call B.S, all 4006 TSWs were issued and shot. I rather buy 2 than pay 900
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Old 03-23-2020, 06:25 PM
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I call B.S, all 4006 TSWs were issued and shot. I rather buy 2 than pay 900
I have the same attitude. Back when FN-FAL kits came into the country with barrels, cost 150-bucks, and Imbel receivers cost 75-bucks, I could build four fully functioning FAL's for less than the cost of one Springfield semi-auto M14. I have a fairly comprehensive collection of FALs as a result.
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:38 AM
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I would call the Mothership and see what can be done. Hoping OP provides an update on this one!
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I would call the Mothership and see what can be done. Hoping OP provides an update on this one!
Going to be sending it off this Friday!
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:04 PM
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Iím hoping this is what happens, what do you guys think they will replace the frame? The gun? Or give me money for it?
What's the update on this, what did the mothership say ?

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Given current conditions related to the COVID-19 pandemic, I would expect much longer wait times to get responses from and repairs executed by S&W. I doubt they are immune to the things that are affecting most other businesses.
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Understood... I just grabbed one up gonna take her home and run some ammo threw her, I very curious what the mother ship has to say...
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Well no cracked frame here... rifling looks a little dull but that could just be me... can the barrel be replaced with any ol TSW barrel?
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I appreciate everyoneís kind words! Iím already bidding on a new replacement. Here is a better pic of the extent on the damage.
Holly smokes! I purchased one for a retirement gift from being a law enforcement officer last year.

I haven't shot it yet for some reason but plan on just using normal .40 S&W ammo. I have never seen a production gun crack like that...wow!

Glad you're okay and you can find another one. My research shows they only made 9700 of these and I would imagine that is going to dry us pretty soon.
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Well no cracked frame here... rifling looks a little dull but that could just be me... can the barrel be replaced with any ol TSW barrel?
Looks ok to me. Unless you have noticed diminished accuracy, I'd continue to use the original barrel.
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Years ago my 669 cracked almost the same spot. Only shot factory 115, Less then 500 rounds and it cracked. Sent back to S&W. They replaced the frame - I then traded it to my local dealer for a Sig P220 American when they first came out.
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JB Weld will do the trick!
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I have finally sent this off I will advise when I get a call from S&W!
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That's not even super hot ammo in my experience. Unlucky!
Could it be the recoil spring was worn out? Man, I love my 40-series guns and it would break my heart if that happened to me. That's why I try and buy spare springs every chance I get!
Sorry, OP. That's a bummer.
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Could it be the recoil spring was worn out? Man, I love my 40-series guns and it would break my heart if that happened to me. That's why I try and buy spare springs every chance I get!
Sorry, OP. That's a bummer.
I was almost to the point it was too heavy honestly. With a mix of that lot of ammo, maybe the pistol beat itself to death. From the 6 other 40xx pistols I have had it always had a what felt like stiff spring. The spring was a extra power wolff spring for those wondering.
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Years ago my 669 cracked almost the same spot. Only shot factory 115, Less then 500 rounds and it cracked. Sent back to S&W. They replaced the frame - I then traded it to my local dealer for a Sig P220 American when they first came out.
Wanna buy a couple of factory P220 9mm magazines for less than they go for elsewhere online?
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Wait a minute ... you've "been busy" for a YEAR?!?!?

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Wait a minute ... you've "been busy" for a YEAR?!?!?

Man, I wouldn't want your schedule...
No honestly bought 2 of these CHP guns since and didnít care to send it in. Quit my job to go back to flight school full time so I have a week till that starts so I have been working down my list.
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Wait a minute ... you've "been busy" for a YEAR?!?!?

Man, I wouldn't want your schedule...
Sometimes you just haven't wanted to fool with it. I have a lot of items around like that. One day, I will finally move it to the top of the priority list.
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I have a question for you all since this is the first time I have sent a pistol in, if the frame is cracked will they even send it back to me? Won’t it be a liability at that point if they were to send it back?
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I have a question for you all since this is the first time I have sent a pistol in, if the frame is cracked will they even send it back to me? Wonít it be a liability at that point if they were to send it back?
Coin toss. Depends who is involved in making the call after examining it.

They may tell you it's not repairable and not covered under warranty anymore (they'll be able to figure out it was a resold CHP trade-in).

They may offer you a discount toward a current production gun with the proviso they keep the damaged one.

Or, they may just send it back.


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Fortunately the 4006ís are pretty inexpensive. There are folks who can do micro welding that could make that good as new though. You might ask S&W. Those guns should be covered by the lifetime warranty. They have been making a few small batches of these guns for LE agencies until recently. They may have a frame or two lying around.
They will send a M&P equivalent.
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Sent in my 1076 a few years back that I believe was a FBI model. They fixed it and didn't ask questions. I have several others that I have sent in and never have they came back and denied the work.

Now, I have 2 at the mothership right now, I may be eating my words soon. Hopefully you guys will be instead of me though....

At least worth a call regardless.

You must also consider that the problem is a serious safety issue and could very well be a factory defect. Some manufactures will fix it even if out of warranty depending on the failure for liability reasons. Mossberg replaced a barrel free of charge on my 935 because the vent rib was not straight on the barrel. Bought it used at a pawn shop and was years past the 2 year warranty. It never hurts to ask. I called Georgia Boot once to buy new inserts to my boots, the ones in them had worn out. They shipped me new inserts for free. I was willing to pay for them. The worst they can tell you is no.

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Not the worst outcome but a M&P does not equal a 4006TSW unfortunately to me, I rather just have it for spare parts at that point.
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Not the worst outcome but a M&P does not equal a 4006TSW unfortunately to me, I rather just have it for spare parts at that point.
Receive M&P. Sell M&P. Use money to buy 4006TSW. Problem solved.
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Not the worst outcome but a M&P does not equal a 4006TSW unfortunately to me, I rather just have it for spare parts at that point.
I'd talk to their CS first.

The disappointment of opening a Fed Ex box expecting your shiny metal gun only to see a black 40 M&P is really not a good feeling.
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The disappointment of opening a Fed Ex box expecting your shiny metal gun only to see a black 40 M&P is really not a good feeling.
Sounds like the moment I wake up from a nightmare
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The disappointment of opening a Fed Ex box expecting your shiny metal gun only to see a black 40 M&P is really not a good feeling.
Could be worse, I got a revolver back as just "unrepairable". Best of luck OP, I've been flirting with buying one of the trade ins, they're really cool.
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I sent a 351C back because it was very hard to eject spent cases. Got an email that it was "unrepairable" and they would be sending me a new one. No word on what was unrepairable, just that the gunsmith had noted that.

I pushed the envelope a bit and asked for a no lock version even though the one I sent in had the lock. They sent me a no lock and all I had to do was pay the transfer fee.

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"Comparable current production firearm."

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So they're taking your 4006TSW and sending you back a 1911 or an M&P40? Can't say I'd be pleased honestly.
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So they're taking your 4006TSW and sending you back a 1911 or an M&P40? Can't say I'd be pleased honestly.
It's not like they can go to their vaults and pull a new 4006TSW off a rack to send him.

If he's being offered a new "comparable" model as a straight across replacement, for a Used pistol he bought, that's not exactly a bad deal.

What would please you? Being told that the Used gun you bought is not only a Discontinued model, but that you're not entitled to anything because you're not the Original Owner?

Being offered a discount for a current production gun wouldn't be unfair, and being offered a no-cost replacement for the Secondhand gun is a pretty good deal, all things considered.
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It's not like they can go to their vaults and pull a new 4006TSW off a rack to send him.

If he's being offered a new "comparable" model as a straight across replacement, for a Used pistol he bought, that's not exactly a bad deal.

What would please you? Being told that the Used gun you bought is not only a Discontinued model, but that you're not entitled to anything because you're not the Original Owner?

Being offered a discount for a current production gun wouldn't be unfair, and being offered a no-cost replacement for the Secondhand gun is a pretty good deal, all things considered.
I my wildest dreams I would get a call and they would say we found one in the back of the warehouse to send to you brand new I agree tho I did buy it used so they are not even entitled to do anything really. Figures crossed maybe they can repair it (doubt it tho)
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I my wildest dreams I would get a call and they would say we found one in the back of the warehouse to send to you brand new I agree tho I did buy it used so they are not even entitled to do anything really. Figures crossed maybe they can repair it (doubt it tho)
Yeah, back before the TSW line (and the rest of the 3rd gens) were Discontinued (also known as being Obsolete ) they'd usually have "extra" overrun guns in their vault. Once those were washed out and sold off to S&W's usual distributors, that dream evaporated in the morning sun.

Kind of like how that suddenly available run (3000 +/- units) of the original 642-1's that appeared. I was told by someone at the factory that it came about when the company decided to clear out some "extra" unserialized 642-1 frames that had been taking up too much space in their parts vault. They pulled them, serialized them (new numbers) and offered them to a couple of their major distributors.

When I first heard about that short run of new guns made on old pre-ILS Centennial frames, I quickly decided I'd like to have a second one. I called back to find out about ordering one, as an armorer, and learned a couple of interesting things.

First of all, they had all been quickly sold to distributors and shipped out. No more remained at the factory. (They gave me a couple distributor names to call to see if I could find one, but the pricing was no longer something the factory had any control over.)

Secondly, not everyone even knew they'd been produced. I, spoke to at least one guy at the company who hadn't even been aware they'd pulled all those older frames to make a run of newer 642-1's. He said it hadn't really been announced or discussed in-house.

A little later I was told they'd done much the same thing with a smaller number of older 442-1 frames, and those had been dispersed to the Distributor pipeline, too.

The eventual rest of the story turned out to be that the quick sale, and resulting requests for more, of the -1 642/442 snubs made the company decide to reintroduce the -1's again in the regular catalog, alongside the -2 models (for the folks who wanted the ILS feature).

Of course, we asked in armorer classes if/when the company would reintroduce at least optional no-lock models in the regular revolver lines. The common reply was that the decision had been made that only internal hammer revolvers would be offered with and without the ILS.

Basically it was said that no revolver with an external hammer that could be thumb-cocked into SA (resulting in a shorter and lighter trigger pull) would be produced without the ILS. Never say Never with S&W corporate thinking ... but I haven't been holding my breath.
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