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Old 04-01-2021, 05:36 PM
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It's not like they can go to their vaults and pull a new 4006TSW off a rack to send him.

If he's being offered a new "comparable" model as a straight across replacement, for a Used pistol he bought, that's not exactly a bad deal.

What would please you? Being told that the Used gun you bought is not only a Discontinued model, but that you're not entitled to anything because you're not the Original Owner?

Being offered a discount for a current production gun wouldn't be unfair, and being offered a no-cost replacement for the Secondhand gun is a pretty good deal, all things considered.
Honestly for me personally? Just weld the cracked frame back together, send it back to me and tell me I'll take full responsibility if it catastrophically fails on me. Living in California anyway it's not like they'd be able to transfer a new production replacement to me, let alone another 4006TSW they dig out of a vault somewhere so I'd pretty much only be able to get a CA approved Shield back.
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Honestly for me personally? Just weld the cracked frame back together, send it back to me and tell me I'll take full responsibility if it catastrophically fails on me. Living in California anyway it's not like they'd be able to transfer a new production replacement to me, let alone another 4006TSW they dig out of a vault somewhere so I'd pretty much only be able to get a CA approved Shield back.
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:32 PM
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Honestly for me personally? Just weld the cracked frame back together, send it back to me and tell me I'll take full responsibility if it catastrophically fails on me. Living in California anyway it's not like they'd be able to transfer a new production replacement to me, let alone another 4006TSW they dig out of a vault somewhere so I'd pretty much only be able to get a CA approved Shield back.
Damn. I didn't see that you were here in CA. I'm in the same boat, FWIW. Now that I can no longer use the peace officer exemption to buy off-roster handguns, I'd have to choose from among their CA Roster Approved handguns if one of mine were to become unrepairable. Unless you were willing to settle for a Shield 40 (original configuration), or one of their revolvers, you'd be left on the outside looking in. Sigh.

Personally, I'd take a long look at one of their revolvers, but then I'm a longtime revolver guy.

Not sure the company would want to create needless exposure to liability to make some unusual repair if they thought a catastrophic failure might occur. Sometimes those waivers aren't worth the paper upon which they're printed, if they reach a court room (and then there's the court of public opinion if someone is injured or killed with one of their products). I'd be very, very surprised if they offered to weld/repair a cracked stainless frame.

Best of luck to you. Let us know what happens.
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:12 PM
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Damn. I didn't see that you were here in CA. I'm in the same boat, FWIW. Now that I can no longer use the peace officer exemption to buy off-roster handguns, I'd have to choose from among their CA Roster Approved handguns if one of mine were to become unrepairable. Unless you were willing to settle for a Shield 40 (original configuration), or one of their revolvers, you'd be left on the outside looking in. Sigh.

Personally, I'd take a long look at one of their revolvers, but then I'm a longtime revolver guy.

Not sure the company would want to create needless exposure to liability to make some unusual repair if they thought a catastrophic failure might occur. Sometimes those waivers aren't worth the paper upon which they're printed, if they reach a court room (and then there's the court of public opinion if someone is injured or killed with one of their products). I'd be very, very surprised if they offered to weld/repair a cracked stainless frame.

Best of luck to you. Let us know what happens.
Luckily for OP he doesn't live here and can still pick up another one for pennies. Meanwhile we're both still on the outside looking in as previously cheap surplus 4006s dry up and eventually go for what they probably cost new
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Luckily for OP he doesn't live here and can still pick up another one for pennies. Meanwhile we're both still on the outside looking in as previously cheap surplus 4006s dry up and eventually go for what they probably cost new
At a gun show Sunday, I saw a minty early production 4006 for $700, so you're not far off.
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I sent a 351C back because it was very hard to eject spent cases. Got an email that it was "unrepairable" and they would be sending me a new one. No word on what was unrepairable, just that the gunsmith had noted that.

I pushed the envelope a bit and asked for a no lock version even though the one I sent in had the lock. They sent me a no lock and all I had to do was pay the transfer fee.
Wouldn't mind that. I've got no offer yet and I've called a few times since receiving it, being told that CS was aware and would be calling me. Going on a month of that of answer so far.
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Honestly for me personally? Just weld the cracked frame back together, send it back to me and tell me I'll take full responsibility if it catastrophically fails on me.
Aside from the liability aspect ("you sent my client back a pistol
that you knew was defective and unsafe, and could cause the
grievous injury he has sustained, due to your reckless
negligence..."), they may not have the equipment to actually do
that type of welding/weld in the constrained area of damage.

Hope it works out well for you...
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The potential problem with the warranty is that it extends to the original purchaser. The gun being marked CHP, screams that the current owner is not the original purchaser. That said, from what Iíve read here and my own experience, it depends on who you talk to in C S the phase of the moon, day of the week, etc as to the response youíll get.
It was your dad's service weapon, right?

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Well, to be fair, I could've bought a little-used or a remaining NIB 4006TSW duty weapon, produced the same year as the CHP guns, but with the riveted rail, when we were given the opportunity to buy a previous duty weapon a while back. (Ours were ordered with Trijicon NS and spurred hammer, and with standard decock/manual safety.) Instead, I bought a 3913TSW I'd briefly carried as an issued weapon. I'd hand-selected it from the armory, being one of the few remaining NIB/never-issued models, over the issued 4513TSW I'd been carrying at the time, and over the available 4566TSW & 4006TSW guns in inventory. Ours were offered to us for the same low cost as the CHP had offered their officers the opportunity to purchase a previous duty weapon, which is to say a deal hard to pass up. (We still had to pay the FFL transfer and sales tax, of course.)

The reason I didn't buy a 4566TSW or 4006TSW when they were available for that single-time purchase was simply because they were too damned heavy, and large, and nowadays I look for size and weight conducive to carry, not just for a fun range gun. (Same reason I turned in my issued 4566TSW for a compact aluminum-framed duty weapon in my plainclothes assignment.)
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