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Old 02-27-2020, 05:29 PM
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I have an opportunity to purchase a 1911sc from 2004. Original box, magazines, and not shot much at all. I am looking for input on this pistol: Being a Scandium frame is the recoil bad? I am not recoil sensitive but wondering how the .45auto acts out of this gun. Are these older 1911sc's a good gun? Was S&W building these good back in 2004. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I am considering this for my next purchase. I have included a picture of the gun.
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Iím afraid that Iím not a great source for a review on this one, but I have VERY strong feelings on the decline of S&W and Iíll say emphatically that if you are sure this is from 2004 then I would pay more, a lot more, for a this one used than anything S&W is making now, and Iíll stand by that with all the energy Iíve got.

As to the pistol, a good buddy of mine grabbed one of these brand new a handful of years ago, his would have been made maybe 2010 or so. I ran a box of ammo through it and found that it ran well and was accurate, a little punchy in recoil but not awful. But one odd problem:

The left stock split in to two piece in my hands during my last magazine from the one box of ammo I put through. Never had that happen before! Definitely not an indictment on quality... likely a flaw in the wood, pretty random and S&W was lickity split in sending him out a replacement.

With all that said...
Are you sure about the 2004 date? I tend to think that this model was pretty new to market when my buddy showed up with it. 2004 seems like a LONG time ago, was this one truly out that long ago? 2014 seems more likely. But truly, I donít know.
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Hahaha, yep, according to the fired case envelope in the picture!
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I wouldnít mind owning it.
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Buy it.
It's a fine pistol. A JRE serial prefix in that condition you should jump all over it.
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I may have the manufacture date wrong. Either way it is an older SC model. I know they still make a Scandium frame one now but it is of course different.
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I may have the manufacture date wrong. Either way it is an older SC model. I know they still make a Scandium frame one now but it is of course different.
2004 is correct. Have you bought it yet?
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Just a Great dependable Pistol. Love Mine.
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Old bill board, depending on the price jump on it. Great pistols. And no, the recoil isn't anything to be concerned with. You never said how much they wanted for it? It could be a no brainer?
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Good solid reliable pistol those. Its a NO Brainer at that price I feel.
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Good solid reliable pistol those. Its a NO Brainer at that price I feel.
Know something we don't?

As mentioned by others.. JRE = YES + Good price(undisclosed so far) But if good =Go buy it
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I bought one used (JRE prefix) in December 2005. Paid $630 for it which included the complete package as in your photo.

As I have been downsizing a bit, it and a couple of others were replaced by a Dan Wesson ECP in .45.

It was a great shooter.
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Love mine, shoots like a dream. I can tell no difference in recoil in it and my full size Springfrield Custom Carry .
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I have owned 2 of them....first one was stolen and was JRE4825.....great gun. I found another in a gun show and traded a Sig 229 for it...both parties are happy!
The replacement is almost as accurate as my SA National Match gun and is tied with me Dan Wesson Pointman Major made before CZ bought them . doesn't seem to care what ammo I put into it, just feeds them all!

Grab it quick before someone else figures it out.......

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I was fortunate to get one of the Gunsite editions of this pistol while they were still available. Ordered it from S&W through my LGS about $1K out the door. Very happy with that gun. I recently put Crimson Trace Laser Grips on it and tucked the Herritts with the Raven logos away for safe keeping.
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I picked up my JRE prefix billboard 1911SC about 3 years ago. I traded a M13 no dash 6Ē and $350 for it. I had about $400 in the M13, so figure about $750. Great trade...I love this 1911. A little snappy, but not bad. Very accurate and a dream to carry. When I first got it, I carried it condition 2 with a techniclip...so basically ďMexican carryĒ. Got away from that now and carry it condition 1 in a paddle kydex holster mainly around the house. Itís my nightstand gun and I can just roll out of bed and slip the paddle inside my waistband. Itís light enough that the drawstring on the shorts I wear to bed can hold it up. Itís no longer in my daily rotation, but I carried it for several months before I relegated it to nightstand duty. Definitely the easiest carrying Commander sized 1911 Iíve ever owned. Thereís a lot of threads on the forum extolling the virtues of the JRD and JRE early 1911SCís. Do a search and read about it. With the shape itís in and all the attendant accoutrements included, Iíd say itís worth in the $800 to $850 range. Iíd jump on it in a heartbeat if it was less than $800.
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I have an opportunity to purchase a 1911sc from 2004. Original box, magazines, and not shot much at all. I am looking for input on this pistol: Being a Scandium frame is the recoil bad? I am not recoil sensitive but wondering how the .45auto acts out of this gun. Are these older 1911sc's a good gun? Was S&W building these good back in 2004. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I am considering this for my next purchase. I have included a picture of the gun.
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Buy it. Recoil is not bad and the guns made during that time period are great. During the early days of the 1911s they used Briley barrels and the guns shot very well. I was the LE guy for the west when the 1911 came out and still have both of my first sample guns with a "JRD" prefix. Both shoot like match pistols and I plan on having them buried with me. It's may or may not be well known, but one of the reasons S&W got into the 1911 market was because of Kimber. We did all of the forging for Kimber on their 1911s so we had a leg up on getting started and we built a better pistol. They would send a truck from New York (from what I was told) at least once a week to pick up the forgings for their guns. I believe that S&W still makes one of the better 1911s on the market and have recommended them to a lot of friends. I've worked on a lot of 1911s in my career as an LE armorer and gunsmith and consistency in workmanship in S&W's 1911s has always been very good. Of course I'm very biased.
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I would make a recommendation that I do not believe was mentioned; take it apart and inspect the frame rails. I have seen a couple Sc's that were not properly greased and had excessive wear of the frame rails, even after only a few hundred rounds. Yes Scandium is tough, but it's no match for un-lubricated stainless steel. My Sc that has always been generously greased, and has over 1,000 rounds though it and shows no sign of any frame rail wear. Other than that precaution, it's a great pistol that will serve one well for many years.
A final item; I replaced the factory firing pin stop with a small radius firing pin stop and installed a heavier main spring, those two changes will help reduce and tame the recoil as well without changing the pistol timing.......
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