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I just picked up a mod 6450. The two piece grips seem a tad small for my hand. Any ideas where I might pick up a set of wraparound grips?
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Any chance you can show a picture? Do the grips on your pistol currently have two silver flat-head grip screw per side?

The “6450” designation is confusing things. If this is a Model 645 with individual plastic grip panels, then (now out of production) aftermarket Pachmayr 645 grips might be an option.

If by “6450” you have a transitional 4506 with the one-piece delrin grip (all plastic, no grip screws) then the aftermarket Hogue might be a good fit for you.
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Any chance you can show a picture? Do the grips on your pistol currently have two silver flat-head grip screw per side?

The “6450” designation is confusing things. If this is a Model 645 with individual plastic grip panels, then (now out of production) aftermarket Pachmayr 645 grips might be an option.

If by “6450” you have a transitional 4506 with the one-piece delrin grip (all plastic, no grip screws) then the aftermarket Hogue might be a good fit for you.
This is a transitional gun. Frame is marked 645. Has the individual grip panels secured with two flathead screws per side.
I have been told this is one of the Custom Shop transitional guns.
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The OEM wood grip panels are somewhat thicker and might suit you. Doubt OEM is still available but aftermarket replacement probably is.

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I’m definitely no expert on the AIPs, the Pilot Guns and the Transitionals, but I thought that the full size .45 was going to be frame marked 645 but wearing the one-piece Delrin grip and the box marked 6450 to be a transitional?

What you describe sounds to me like a 645. What features does it have that separates it from a 645?
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Look for Pachmayr grips, they are a bit thicker and provide a much "stickier" surface than the factory plastic stocks.
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I’m definitely no expert on the AIPs, the Pilot Guns and the Transitionals, but I thought that the full size .45 was going to be frame marked 645 but wearing the one-piece Delrin grip and the box marked 6450 to be a transitional?

What you describe sounds to me like a 645. What features does it have that separates it from a 645?
I have never had a 645 in hand. The box says 6450.
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That's the first time I've heard that the grips on a Smith auto were too thin.... as in the pre-Glock days.... "my M59 is like holding a 2"x4" stud".
The 6450s look like the M59 OEMs on mine.
How thick are yours and how much thicker would work for you?

Pic of my old M59.
The 59 is a double stack. The frame is wider.
I think a wraparound grip will give me what I need.
Based on what I have been hearing, I may be shopping for a 645 and let a true collector add this 6450 to his stable.
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59 and 645 grips are not interchangeable, even with modification.

While it is possible that you have a rare early example of a pilot or transitional, if your frame says 645 and your grips are two piece with screws, I doubt that your pistol is anything other than a 645. In my travels, lots and lots of the box end labels were stamped 6450.

All apologies if I am mistaken or if I missed a detail.

As for grip options, three exist that I have ever heard of:
OEM thin black plastic
OEM wood for 745
Pachmayr, years out of production

I have had great luck in using a length of bicycle tire innertube. Does not make it bigger, wider or thicker, but greatly increases the tackiness. Hogue and Pachmayr both make a slip-on rubber grip condom with finger grooves that I hate with a bloody passion, maybe that could work.
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The OEM wood grip panels are somewhat thicker and might suit you. Doubt OEM is still available but aftermarket replacement probably is.

That gun, with those grips, is spectacular!!
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My M645 was a late gun, hand built by my friend and PD Armorer at S&W as his class gun. It has all the upgrades.

I later acquired a spare 645 at the LGS.
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59 grips will physically fit on a 645, but they are a bit short and do not fully cover the receiver like 645 grips.
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59 and 645 grips are not interchangeable, even with modification.

While it is possible that you have a rare early example of a pilot or transitional, if your frame says 645 and your grips are two piece with screws, I doubt that your pistol is anything other than a 645. In my travels, lots and lots of the box end labels were stamped 6450.

All apologies if I am mistaken or if I missed a detail.

As for grip options, three exist that I have ever heard of:
OEM thin black plastic
OEM wood for 745
Pachmayr, years out of production

I have had great luck in using a length of bicycle tire innertube. Does not make it bigger, wider or thicker, but greatly increases the tackiness. Hogue and Pachmayr both make a slip-on rubber grip condom with finger grooves that I hate with a bloody passion, maybe that could work.
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