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Old 08-24-2020, 06:14 AM
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here is my newest firearm it is an E series 1911 with all internals changed out to wilson combat bullet proof, has wilson combat snake scale mag well, factory and G10 grips, with 4 mags and all removed factory parts and springs and i added the ambi safety all for $800.00, also has fiber optic front sight.
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$8,000 for a pistol?! Must be quite rare!
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Poor guy, he is not good with numbers. lol
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Very nice! I really like the color of those square cut grips and the mag-well.
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That’s is a fine looking 1911. I really like look of the stainless frame and slide with the black accents. How does it shoot?
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I have the same gun and added some Wilson Combat accessories - magwell, extended oversize magazine release, extended slide stop and ambidextrous safety - plus a Recover Tactical Grip and Rail System as well as their "holster" into which the gun fits. Along with a Streamlight TLR-1, it makes for a very complete carry handgun.

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Love S&W 1911's, living in Cali. we are not allowed to buy new. Was lucky to find one the last one's to come in before S&W stopped paying the extortion fee....
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Love it, I have the "E" too!
Certainly not trying to hi-jack the thread, but I did the same thing with my Colt LW Enhanced Officers and thought you'd enjoy looking at it.
I love Wilson Combat.
I replaced all the internals with Wilson Combat bullet proof along with their titanium firing pin.
I didn't wanna machine my slide, so I went with the EGW FLGR system and hand fit an oversized Clark end plug and then added a Stan Chen one piece SI Magwell.
Only thing left is my night sites and have them installed, leaning towards the Wilson Combat compact tritium's.
This is my EDC gun.
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Why would you buy a machine and throw all the "guts" away and replace with aftermarket "guts"? Are you aware that S&W has been making guns for over 100 years? You think they use inferior parts? If so why didn't you buy another brand?
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Why would you buy a machine and throw all the "guts" away and replace with aftermarket "guts"? Are you aware that S&W has been making guns for over 100 years? You think they use inferior parts? If so why didn't you buy another brand?
Why would you take a new Hemi engine, drop in a larger cam, ported heads, SS headers and exhaust, build a bullet proof bottom end and re-gear it then bring it all together with a tuner?
Maybe, just to make it perform better than stock? lol
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Not good comparison. Did you shoot the gun before you gutted it?
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Lol, oh come on!
I'm not the one that did it. I do have an "E" Commander and love it bone stock down to the grips, wouldn't touch a thing on that one.
However, I did the same thing to a Colt Officers for daily carry, and it shot fine before hand, I just wanted it to be basically "unbreakable" for EDC.
I have to admit, it runs better and smoother now. Accuracy has always been good for a 3.5" barrel though.
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I have a 1911 that the previous owner sent to Wilson Combat. It had a trigger job, reliability package, match barrel and bushing and it was black Armour coated. It came to me in a Wilson Combat gun bag with the receipt from Wilson Combat for the work. It was stainless steel to begin with. The previous owner didn't like it being shiny. Then he got hard up for money and sold it to me for $1000. It shoots great, is totally reliable and must be indestructible with the coating over stainless. I always carry it if it is raining that day. We have a new Chief who is not thrilled with me carrying a revolver. I guess I am going to have to switch to 1911s completely. I have several including two engraved ones. One is a Kimber Diamond Grade and the other is a S&W 1911 100th Anniversary. I like putting fancy grips on the 1911s. You can't see the engraving much when it is in the holster, but you can sure see those grips. I wish I knew how to post pictures without having to pay some service.
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Looks outstanding! As for the mods I think someone can do whatever they want to THEIR gun and don't need my permission. The only thing that stuck out to me is that I would pay $$ to have the ambi safety removed! I generally don't like them but that's just me. Lefty's and others will have a different take and that's fine...again, not my gun.

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I just picked up my first 1911 and it's the S&W E Series . Mine will stay the factory original. Maybe switch out sights to adjustable and fiber front. Mine is more for the collection and an occasional range trip. I was going to get a Range Officer but I couldn't pass up the deal.
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I have a 1911 that the previous owner sent to Wilson Combat. It had a trigger job, reliability package, match barrel and bushing and it was black Armour coated. It came to me in a Wilson Combat gun bag with the receipt from Wilson Combat for the work. It was stainless steel to begin with. The previous owner didn't like it being shiny. Then he got hard up for money and sold it to me for $1000. It shoots great, is totally reliable and must be indestructible with the coating over stainless. I always carry it if it is raining that day. We have a new Chief who is not thrilled with me carrying a revolver. I guess I am going to have to switch to 1911s completely. I have several including two engraved ones. One is a Kimber Diamond Grade and the other is a S&W 1911 100th Anniversary. I like putting fancy grips on the 1911s. You can't see the engraving much when it is in the holster, but you can sure see those grips. I wish I knew how to post pictures without having to pay some service.
When you're typing a reply, in the task bar at the top you'll see a "paper clip", click on that and it opens a "browser" window and you can navigate to your pictures on your computer. Select and hit "upload" on the right of your browser window. You can load up to 5 I think?
I load all mine from my computer, I won't use a image service either.
Now post a picture of that Wilson/Colt!
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168 years to be exact!
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Yes, yes they do use inferior parts sometimes. MIM will always be inferior to bar stock, to be exact.
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You know, I too bought an E last year and added a couple parts to it. I am quite pleased with it. Smith makes a sweet 1911 for the money.
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Not good comparison. Did you shoot the gun before you gutted it?
Agree. S&W 1911's are pretty good pistols to start with. I've touched a few and have never had to replace parts to make them right. I guess it's just a personal deal. I have a friend I build several guns a year for and he never shoots them. All he cares about is how they look. I make them to shoot as well as look good. I call them "Gucchi" guns.
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Yes, yes they do use inferior parts sometimes. MIM will always be inferior to bar stock, to be exact.
Can you explain why MIM is inferior? Not many folks can. I worked for S&W when MIM parts first started being used. The Performance center was still using billet parts I really do believe it was to help differentiate the guns from production guns and there was early concerns about durability. I have had MIM parts fail ( Not many) but so have billet/forged parts. MiM has it's limitations but I think the factroy has figured that out and works well within those limits. I have tuned a lot of guns since Mim and frankly found no issues in getting them "slickier" than goose poop. I have a PPC gun that has all of it's original MIM parts and that gun has at least 12K rounds through it. Most folks will never wear a gun out so I'm not sure MIM parts are really inferior to anything else. Just my 2cents worth.
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Can you explain why MIM is inferior? Not many folks can. I worked for S&W when MIM parts first started being used. The Performance center was still using billet parts I really do believe it was to help differentiate the guns from production guns and there was early concerns about durability. I have had MIM parts fail ( Not many) but so have billet/forged parts. MiM has it's limitations but I think the factroy has figured that out and works well within those limits. I have tuned a lot of guns since Mim and frankly found no issues in getting them "slickier" than goose poop. I have a PPC gun that has all of it's original MIM parts and that gun has at least 12K rounds through it. Most folks will never wear a gun out so I'm not sure MIM parts are really inferior to anything else. Just my 2cents worth.
Sure, very simple.
A MIM part will break or fail before bar stock.
That's why it's inferior.
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A MIM part will break or fail before bar stock.
That's why it's inferior.
I've never had an MIM part fail since they were introduced in S&W firearms some 30 years ago. I've read a few articles from gunsmiths and most said good things about MIM at least concerning production guns. I'm sure there have been failures but there were failures before MIM as well. My 3rd gens with MIM are smoother than the same gun without MIM.

I don't claim to know everything so if a person doesn't like MIM that's OK with me.
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I've never had an MIM part fail since they were introduced in S&W firearms some 30 years ago. I've read a few articles from gunsmiths and most said good things about MIM at least concerning production guns. I'm sure there have been failures but there were failures before MIM as well. My 3rd gens with MIM are smoother than the same gun without MIM.

I don't claim to know everything so if a person doesn't like MIM that's OK with me.
I never said there was anything wrong with MIM parts. I simply stated that a MIM part will fail/break before a bar stock part will, so by definition, that makes a MIM part inferior to bar stock is all.
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Looks outstanding! As for the mods I think someone can do whatever they want to THEIR gun and don't need my permission. The only thing that stuck out to me is that I would pay $$ to have the ambi safety removed! I generally don't like them but that's just me. Lefty's and others will have a different take and that's fine...again, not my gun.

Here's my only two 1911's along with some 3rd gens I "fixed" those pesky ambi safeties on. (The 1911Sc still has the ambi!)
I add them to mine. Not because I shoot left handed much, but because A) I let others shoot my guns and some are left handed, and B) If my right hand was ever disabled (and it has happened in the past), I lose no functionality with my left hand. About 7 years ago, I had the misfortune of detaching my bicep in my right arm. Dr. who reattached it was adamant about not lifting anything or shooting for two months. So the left side got a work out.
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I add them to mine. Not because I shoot left handed much, but because A) I let others shoot my guns and some are left handed, and B) If my right hand was ever disabled (and it has happened in the past), I lose no functionality with my left hand. About 7 years ago, I had the misfortune of detaching my bicep in my right arm. Dr. who reattached it was adamant about not lifting anything or shooting for two months. So the left side got a work out.
Given that unfortunate situation I'm sure I would be scrambling to reinstall my ambi safeties. If there's any kind of an up side to losing use of your right arm for a while I would wager you got pretty good left handed. I hope the recovery went well and you are 100%.
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Given that unfortunate situation I'm sure I would be scrambling to reinstall my ambi safeties. If there's any kind of an up side to losing use of your right arm for a while I would wager you got pretty good left handed. I hope the recovery went well and you are 100%.
I'm one of those people who started out life left handed and their mother forced them to use their right hand as there was a stigma against lefties way back then. Actually worked out well for me. I'm no longer as ambidextrous as I once was (batting left or right handed was handy), but I'm still pretty proficient.
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I never said there was anything wrong with MIM parts. I simply stated that a MIM part will fail/break before a bar stock part will, so by definition, that makes a MIM part inferior to bar stock is all.
Because you say it doesn't necessarily make it so. I work on these thing for a living--every day. I've touched a lot of MIM parts since they have been around and billet parts in the last 40 years of building and fixing S&W revolvers and don't really find your statement based on anything but personal opinion--and that's okay. We all have them. I just don't think folks should be afraid of MIM parts in their guns.
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