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10-08-2020, 02:04 PM
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Wanted Third Gen grip id help
i know 1006/4506 are the same
i knowthere is a wide body 4013tsw
QUESTION-
are all the other single stacks the same?
(457 4013 3913?)
thx
Larry in Reno
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10-15-2020, 08:29 PM
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As a minimum there is full size single stack 3904/3906 ans Compact single stack 3913/3914/3953. I would guess the 10mm and 45 single stack would be different (wider)
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10-16-2020, 02:51 AM
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Larry,
There are 3 magazine/grip widths:
10mm/45;
9mm single stack;
9mm/40s&w double stack
Only other variation is magazine/grip length.
John
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10-16-2020, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnHL
Larry,
There are 3 magazine/grip widths:
10mm/45;
9mm single stack;
9mm/40s&w double stack
Only other variation is magazine/grip length.
John
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OK - so 3 widths x 2 lengths(?) - (I believe 40 single stacks and 45 are same width?? and are there 3 lengths for 45??) What about the CS series? And of course there were the frame mounted decocker xx26 with different grips)
Standard - or Full size
10mm/45 (single stack) = 1006 & 4506;
9mm Single stack = 3906 & 909;
9mm/40 Double stack = 4006, 410, 5906, 910, etc
Midsize (single stack)
10mm/45 = 1066 & 4566
Compact
40 single stack /45 = 4013, 4513, 4516, 457 etc;
9mm single stack = 3913 & 908;
9mm double stack = 6906, etc
and for full size 9/40 double stack (4006 & 5906, etc) Curved or Straight, and 3913 LS a second color (grey)
Does that sound right?
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10-17-2020, 01:22 AM
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OK - so 3 widths x 2 lengths(?)
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Correct (Not counting CS models)
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- I believe 40 single stacks and 45 are same width??
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Also correct.
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And are there 3 lengths for 45??
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No, just like all the others, 2 (full size and compact) in the Xenoy/Delrin grips.
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What about the CS series?
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Good point!
The CS series pistols came with Hogue rubber grips, however the CS40/45 does have the same grip width as the 10/45 pistols and the CS9 has the same grip width as the single stack 9mm models so technically these would be the "third size" ( sub-compacts).
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And of course there were the frame mounted decocker xx26 with different grips)
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Of course.
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Standard - or Full size
10mm/45 (single stack) = 1006 & 4506;
9mm Single stack = 3906 & 909;
9mm/40 Double stack = 4006, 410, 5906, 910, etc
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Yup.
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Midsize (single stack)
10mm/45 = 1066 & 4566
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Nope. Same as full size.
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Compact
40 single stack /45 = 4013, 4513, 4516, 457 etc;
9mm single stack = 3913 & 908;
9mm double stack = 6906, etc
and for full size 9/40 double stack (4006 & 5906, etc) Curved or Straight, and 3913 LS a second color (grey)
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Don't forget curved or straight for full size 10/45, also.
And just to make it a little more difficult, there are the 9mm single stack and 45 compact grips that are cut away on the bottom for the magazine base plate on the pre-rail TSW models.
Aside from a few minor exceptions, I'd say you have a very good grip on a complicated subject.
John
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Originally Posted by JohnHL
The CS series pistols came with Hogue rubber grips, however the CS40/45 does have the same grip width as the 10/45 pistols and the CS9 has the same grip width as the single stack 9mm models so technically these would be the "third size" (sub-compacts).
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The CS45 and the older version of the 4513 use a shorter 6-round magazine is what I think you're saying, right?
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Aside from a few minor exceptions, I'd say you have a very good grip on a complicated subject.
John
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Thanks for corrections - hope that helps answer original poster's question
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The CS45 and the older version of the 4513 use a shorter 6-round magazine is what I think you're saying, right?
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Correct.
Although the CS45 was produced with the Hogue rubber grip and never came with a plastic grip, it utilizes the "45" grip width.
The "pre-rail" 4513TSW used a shortened magazine, but the grip was the same length as other 45 compact grips (4516, 457) and was cut away in front of the grip pin so that the magazine base might fit fully recessed into the grip frame.
John
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