Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols Other Smith & Wesson Semi-Automatic Pistols from the 1950's to Present


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-17-2020, 06:19 PM
Deputy's Avatar
Deputy Deputy is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Silver City, NM
Posts: 270
Likes: 85
Liked 67 Times in 39 Posts
Default Question on S&W 4006TSW

Hi All,
Just bought one of these pistols and really like it. VERY heavy duty. However, I have a question. I have been trying to disassemble it and have been having a hard time doing so. The recoil spring on it is extremely stiff. That makes it really hard to hold the slide in the disassembly position to pop out the slide lock. Does anyone know if S&W installed a stiffer-than-normal recoil spring in these guns? I have a new recoil spring ordered from Wolff, but it is the standard (17 pound) weight.
Are there any tips I can get to take off the slide? I read the online manual but that is no help.

Thanks,
Dep
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-17-2020, 06:54 PM
Ethang Ethang is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Detroit
Posts: 740
Likes: 319
Liked 528 Times in 225 Posts
Default

How are you holding the slide back? Easiest way is to come over the top of the slide near the rear sight with your fingers, while your thumb is under the tang. A squeeze/pinch of your hand retracts the slide and you can hold it pretty well.
__________________
Plastic has no soul
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 11-17-2020, 07:10 PM
NavyEngineer NavyEngineer is offline
US Veteran
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 95
Likes: 56
Liked 148 Times in 52 Posts
Default

Ethang's method works well for me. You can also push the slide against a surface that won't mar it (like a wooden bench), making sure the barrel can freely protrude, until it is aligned to remove the slide stop. Sometimes the slide stop can be hard to push through, especially with pistols that have not been disassembled often. My arthritic fingers find a delrin punch useful for pushing the slide stop out. Did you pick up one of the former CHP pistols? I love my CHP 4006TSW!

DPMS AR-15 Takedown Pin Punch Delrin
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 11-17-2020, 08:15 PM
Sevens Sevens is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,245
Likes: 5,391
Liked 8,245 Times in 3,089 Posts
Default

Ethangís post and method is pure magic for folks who have never done it or didnít know they could. The leverage that you get with this method can be a game-changer.

It does occur to me that it is difficult to describe this well with the written word, or perhaps I just find it difficult to comprehend when it is written. In the spirit of that, here is a picture that might help:

Sincere apologies that it is a Glock in the photo, YUCK, but it is what I could find quickly. Held in this manner, you have a fantastic grip on the pistol and squeezing as if you were trying to make a fist draws the slide back a bit more.
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 11-17-2020, 08:23 PM
mbliss57's Avatar
mbliss57 mbliss57 is online now
US Veteran
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 5,273
Likes: 6,658
Liked 7,819 Times in 2,127 Posts
Default

The answer to your question on springs.. they are very stiff. I also find mine hard to hold steady for any period of time. But it only takes a few seconds to get the slide pin out and then you are home free. Once you have done it a few times it becomes pretty routine.
__________________
John 1:17
NRA Life Benefactor
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 11-17-2020, 09:18 PM
Ethang Ethang is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Detroit
Posts: 740
Likes: 319
Liked 528 Times in 225 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sevens View Post
Ethangís post and method is pure magic for folks who have never done it or didnít know they could. The leverage that you get with this method can be a game-changer.

It does occur to me that it is difficult to describe this well with the written word, or perhaps I just find it difficult to comprehend when it is written. In the spirit of that, here is a picture that might help:

Sincere apologies that it is a Glock in the photo, YUCK, but it is what I could find quickly. Held in this manner, you have a fantastic grip on the pistol and squeezing as if you were trying to make a fist draws the slide back a bit more.
thank you for posting that pic. I was not somewhere at the time I could take one or search for it.

Ethan
__________________
Plastic has no soul
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 11-17-2020, 09:59 PM
Steve912 Steve912 is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 2,041
Likes: 2,791
Liked 1,773 Times in 941 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputy View Post
Hi All,
The recoil spring on it is extremely stiff. That makes it really hard to hold the slide in the disassembly position to pop out the slide lock.
Are there any tips I can get to take off the slide? I read the online manual but that is no help.
Just to be on the safe side--you know you don't pull the S&W
slides as far back, as, say, a 1911, yah?

Just till the little notch in slide is even with cross pin
head
of the slide stop (the first time me and a
buddy were trying to take down an S&W auto, we were
trying to push the tip of slide stop, out of the notch in
the slide. "Gee, this thing is really hard to take down!!"


There is a spring-loaded detent inside frame, pressing into
a notch in the cross pin. That detent can make it tough to
start the slide stop moving. You may need to use handle of
small screwdriver, bullet tip, etc to get it past the detent.

Once you get it apart, check the scoop in slide stop cross
pin for burrs or roughness, that might catch the detent tip.

Last edited by Steve912; 11-17-2020 at 10:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 11-17-2020, 11:35 PM
4T5GUY's Avatar
4T5GUY 4T5GUY is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Oregon Coast
Posts: 929
Likes: 1,878
Liked 2,333 Times in 722 Posts
Default

Yep some if not most with new and or stout springs are difficult.

Like ďSevensĒ thereís no way to describe how I do it so Iíve also added a picture. Iím right handed and use my left to hold the slide back. I wedge my middle finger over the barrel in front of the slide using my ring finger to support and add leverage. My thumb is inside the trigger guard adding more support. Iím sure Iím not the only who does it this way.

Even with the very stiff springs I can comfortably hold everything in position untill I push the slide stop out, (or keep taking pictures till one is good,) with an old but handy used up pen.

Jim
Attached Thumbnails
Question on S&W 4006TSW-4eeb552a-ed13-46ef-b8e1-0d5e4659d4a3-jpg   Question on S&W 4006TSW-10a3389a-1af6-4a0e-8d50-ddb4608d93cc-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 11-18-2020, 08:57 PM
Deputy's Avatar
Deputy Deputy is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Silver City, NM
Posts: 270
Likes: 85
Liked 67 Times in 39 Posts
Default

Thanks a ton guys!!!! ALL the replies were excellent. I added a couple of pics of the gun. Yes, it's a former CHP gun I bought off Gunbroker. I am 71 years old, so my hands don't have the strength I used to have. And I've been mainly taking apart 1911 pistols, which is VERY easy, since you can release the tension on the spring before you take it apart. I will try out the suggested methods and let ya'll know if I have any luck. Worst case scenario, I will wrap the slide in cardboard and clamp it in a vise and then slide the grip until I can get it to the correct takedown position.

Thanks again,
Dep
Attached Thumbnails
Question on S&W 4006TSW-pix058576846-jpg   Question on S&W 4006TSW-pix501470297-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 11-18-2020, 10:28 PM
NavyEngineer NavyEngineer is offline
US Veteran
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 95
Likes: 56
Liked 148 Times in 52 Posts
Default

That's a nice one!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 11-19-2020, 01:10 AM
Jeppo's Avatar
Jeppo Jeppo is offline
SWCA Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Davidson County, NC
Posts: 1,641
Likes: 4,653
Liked 2,881 Times in 1,078 Posts
Default

When confronted by a stubborn slide stop, I use a wooden chop stick.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 11-23-2020, 04:27 PM
Deputy's Avatar
Deputy Deputy is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Silver City, NM
Posts: 270
Likes: 85
Liked 67 Times in 39 Posts
Default

Okay...I got the slide off. Now please don't laugh (too loud). I was trying to line up the wrong part of the slide stop!!! Once I figured this out I was easily able to disassemble by hand. Anyway, thanks for all the help. Really appreciate it. Now I have to figure out how I am going to pay the Biden NFA tax on the gun, 6 mags, and the zillion other semi-auto guns and mags I own.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 11-23-2020, 11:07 PM
Steve912 Steve912 is offline
Member
Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW Question on S&W 4006TSW  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 2,041
Likes: 2,791
Liked 1,773 Times in 941 Posts
Default

Yuppers, that's what I figured (having done the same, me self!).
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4006TSW adwjc Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 21 05-16-2020 07:16 PM
CHP 4006TSW Magazine question randyp Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 3 11-02-2019 02:59 PM
4006TSW lkabug Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 58 06-08-2019 07:26 AM
CHP 4006TSW ammo question NordicG3K Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 9 07-18-2017 03:21 AM
New 4006tsw schapm Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 11 05-05-2011 11:14 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:35 AM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)