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Old 02-16-2021, 02:43 PM
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Came across a S&W 4040 Airlite in a pawn shop. Wasn't really looking for a .40 S&W, or anything else. I wasn't familiar with this model. I "Googled" it and didn't come up with much. One guy stated that it wasn't listed in his gun book and they are pretty rare. Asking price was $600. Can anyone provide some information on these? How many produced? Value? Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-16-2021, 03:23 PM
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The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson lists a Model 4040PD. They were made from 2003-2205. The slides were marked "AirLite PD", and they were made with carbon steel slides and Scandium/Aluminum frames. The SCS&W does not list the quantity made. I have no idea of the value.
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Old 02-16-2021, 03:34 PM
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SCSW Vol 4 lists ANIB as 575. Retail in 2003-2006 was 840.

Of course, those are pre-covid prices.
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About a year ago I was in the same position and asked pretty much the same questions you have.

I was picking up another pistol and noticed one I was unfamiliar with, a S&W 4040PD. I put $25.00 down to hold it. I posted questions here. After getting great responses I went back and got it. It was ANIB w/everything and was $429.00 OTD.

I wasnít ďall thatĒ into .40ís but Iím glad I got it. Iíve been acquiring a few more 3rd Gen .40ís and the 4040PD is a nice one. A really nice one.

New magazines can still found very cheap and I think I have enough now.

Depending on the condition and what comes with it $600.00 might not be too much out of line. Iíve seen very used ones go for over $800.00 on GB but you know about that. Years ago $400.00 was my top price for a ďregularĒ S&W pistol, then I had to up that to $500.00. Who knows now?

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Old 02-16-2021, 09:39 PM
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I spotted one several years back in a pawn shop and bought it - paid 700 as I recall - truly one of the few times that I think I overpaid for a gun - don't intend to sell anytime soon so of little consequence.

They are really nice pistols that carry and shoot well.

I have other 40s (shorty forty and a 4054) so this one rounds out a small 40 caliber niche for me.

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Old 02-16-2021, 09:57 PM
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Isnt it the only scandium framed single stack? I read that someplace.
I use 4040 mags in my 3913 and 3914. They are plentiful and cheap, and work perfectly in the 3900 guns.
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AFAIK, the 4040PD is the only scandium-framed 3rd Gen ever produced, maybe the only scandium semi-auto S&W ever made? I don't know all of the PC models, so maybe there was one in there too.

I do know that it is the only single-stack 40sw designed from a 9mm frame in the 3rd Gen lineup, and that it was one of the last models to be introduced before they shut down 3rd Gen production. It has many features of the TSW series - thicker frame rails, loaded chamber port, setup for decock-only conversion - as well as benefiting from the later advancements in fabrication, with great slide-to-frame fits and smooth triggers.

The 4040 is basically the same size as a 3913NL, making it IMO the most concealable 40sw in the 3rd Gen lineup. 3913 grips, mag springs, base plates, buttplate catch assemblies are all used by the 4040, and most leather 3913 holsters will fit as well. Magazine bodies and followers are specific to the model, but as has been stated, NOS 4040 magazines are still available online. Trijicon offers night sights for it (SA15) and the dual recoil spring setup is the same as the 457/4516/4013TSW (Sprinco also makes great aftermarket spring sets).

Definitely a rare bird and IMO worth picking up. Depending on condition, what comes with it, etc. $600 is not out of line. For a well-used model with one mag, that's a bit pricey, but it would be a fair price for a gently used gun, especially with original box and 2 mags. I've seen used 4040's sell for over $700 and NOS specimens go for close to $1K. As I said, a rare bird.
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I picked up a well used and finish compromised specimen a few years ago for $250 (actually traded a gun I had $250 in for it). Itís an ugly ducking, but does it shoot! Very light and recoil isnít that bad considering how light it is. Itís become one of my favorite .40ís. Iíd say get it for that price, or even better if you can negotiate it down a little.
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The 4040 is basically the same size as a 3913NL, making it IMO the most concealable 40sw in the 3rd Gen lineup. 3913 grips, mag springs, base plates, buttplate catch assemblies are all used by the 4040, and most leather 3913 holsters will fit as well.
Great input.

Obviously I changed out the original grip on mine with a 3913 etc grip. It just felt better than the original Hogue one. I had bought several of them thinking I could duplicate the Big Dog/ďTercGenĒ mod for my CS9 but felt guilty ruining them so I gave up.

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AFAIK, the 4040PD is the only scandium-framed 3rd Gen ever produced, maybe the only scandium semi-auto S&W ever made? I don't know all of the PC models, so maybe there was one in there too.
My safe indicates thereís been at least one more.

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Old 02-17-2021, 01:41 AM
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My safe indicates thereís been at least one more.

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Right, I forgot all about 1911's, good call Jeppo!

1911's are fun to shoot and iconic guns, but after my own horrible experience with Kimber, I tend to avoid them and instead went 'all-in' on S&W 3rd Gens.
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:37 AM
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As far as 3rd Gens are concerned, either standard production or Performance Center, the 4040PD is the only one with a scandium alloy frame.

Parts unique to the 4040PD, beside the obvious frame, slide & barrel, and the magazine already mentioned, there are a few others:

- the slide stop assembly: the slide stop's follower arm (that engages the magazine's follower to lock the slide on the last round) is shorter than that of a 3913/3914 (.207"-vs-.276").

The shorter slide stop follower arm is so the fatter nose of the .40 bullet will not incidentally bump the slide stop's arm falsely locking the slide back.

- the magazine: the 4040PD mag has a special follower with an extended tab on the follower's left side (to contact the shorter slide stop arm) and a bearing insert on it's right side to keep it pushed to the left.

- the recoil spring guide rod: is a PN# unique to the 4040PD also. It's has a small diameter rod, .236", because it uses the dual/nested spring set, as well as being colored black.

- grips: they are factory Hogue style grips & also are PN# unique to the 4040PD.

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The 4040PD has become my 2nd favorite pistol to carry since acquiring one in 2018. I paid around $450 shipped for ANIB condition with box/docs & 2 mags, which I remember at the time was a bit low, but a few nice ones had popped up on market then, and also shortly thereafter, for similar prices. It is a lightweight powerhouse, coming in at 24.5 ounces with empty magazine. It will become more relevant if god forbid, another mag ban ensues. I say get it, but of course try to whittle them down $100 or so.



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