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09-26-2021, 08:05 PM
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Model 1006 gouges the brass
Hi, I have a Model 1006 that I bought about 5 years ago. Great gun. Only problem is that it gouges the brass. I'm not sure if it gouges the brass going in or when extracting. I tried rounding some of the sharp edges on the extractor and around it. No success. It still gouges the brass, in exactly the same place on each case. I have attached pictures of the gouged brass and even the rounding that I did on and around the extractor. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to end the gouging every time I shoot?
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09-26-2021, 09:07 PM
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Can you tell by looking at the face of the case head where the ejector is making contact? That should give you the case orientation to point you in the direction of where on the right side the case is making contact. Depending on the angle of the ejector the cases may be coming out and as they clear the chamber, they may be flipping upwards and backwards and hitting the slide on the angled edge directly above the extractor. After you have fired several rounds look at the slide with a loupe or magnifying glass and you will probably see a small smear or transfer of brass to the offending surface.
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09-26-2021, 09:45 PM
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Mine does that too.
Suck it up, resize the brass using carbide dies, and keep shooting.
You can thank me later.
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09-26-2021, 09:56 PM
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I haven't noticed mine doing that, but what's going on with that ejection port? Looks kinda chewed up.
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09-26-2021, 10:06 PM
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I haven't noticed mine doing that, but what's going on with that ejection port? Looks kinda chewed up.
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Yep. Looks like it was peened.
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09-26-2021, 11:42 PM
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Can you tell by looking at the face of the case head where the ejector is making contact? That should give you the case orientation to point you in the direction of where on the right side the case is making contact. Depending on the angle of the ejector the cases may be coming out and as they clear the chamber, they may be flipping upwards and backwards and hitting the slide on the angled edge directly above the extractor. After you have fired several rounds look at the slide with a loupe or magnifying glass and you will probably see a small smear or transfer of brass to the offending surface.
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Hi, Thanks for the advice. Yes I could see where the ejector was hitting the case heads, and each case had the gouges at exactly the same position from there. I then put a spent case against the breach face and looked at where the ejector is and which direction the extractor is pulling and determined that indeed as you said, it is directly above the extractor as shown in the picture I have just uploaded. So I will soften that point on the slide and see if that stops the gouging. Thanks again.
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09-27-2021, 02:59 PM
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Before you start filing on the slide, you might want to try replacing the recoil spring first. I wouldn't do anything to the slide regardless. Brass is meant to be a perishable resource. Nothing you've shown constitutes a safety concern.
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09-27-2021, 05:35 PM
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I did replace the recoil spring when I got the gun. I think it was a Wolff spring and it is a very stout spring. Racking the slide takes some strength, as it should. The gun really wings the spent cases a country mile, so I think the recoil spring is doing what it's supposed to.
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09-27-2021, 07:00 PM
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It's been quite awhile since I've fired a 1006, we retired them in 2006. I don't recall brass being "winged a country mile". While you may/may not have picked up a Wolff spring, but the question is which spring? Wolff sells a slew of recoil springs of various ratings.
I have what's identified by the S&W part # as a full strength 1006 recoil spring That's never been compressed. The wire is 0.043 in, the spring is 8 inches OAL and has 36 coils. The official rate is supposedly 18 lbs.
I do have to admit I never bothered to examine the brass for blemishes. It does seem a bit picky. But extractor tension might also be a cause. There were several different extractor springs, and possibly (would need to find the book) a couple of different extractors which were a fitted part.
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Originally Posted by HarryH
Hi, I have a Model 1006 that I bought about 5 years ago. Great gun. Only problem is that it gouges the brass. I'm not sure if it gouges the brass going in or when extracting. I tried rounding some of the sharp edges on the extractor and around it. No success. It still gouges the brass, in exactly the same place on each case. I have attached pictures of the gouged brass and even the rounding that I did on and around the extractor. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to end the gouging every time I shoot?
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Install the updated version of the 23019 ejector. You have the early version in there which is shorter and is also known for developing a stress crack because of how it was fabricated.
The updated version is a bit longer and will start kicking the brass out a bit earlier.
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