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Old 03-13-2022, 01:05 AM
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So today I got my custom M5906 from Guzzitaco. There are simply no words. Just a beautiful work of art that was several months in planning and in the making. I am fortunate enough to live near Guzzi so that allowed me to get deeply involved in the planning and execution of the project.

From the start we wanted to do something different and at the same time pay homage to the classic SW 3rd Gens. We started with a stripped and banged 5906 frame from Centerfire Systems. I then sourced an old 915 slide, barrel and internal parts and we had the foundation. The next step was to figure out what to do...

After several brainstorming sessions it started taking shape. We decided to start by doing the "Guzzi scallop" and front serrations but with a small twist, the serrations would be on the scallop, much like a PC40/PC35 competition pistol. After much discussion we also decided to cut the front of the dust cover at an angle to match the angle and placement of the scallop to give it a more modern yet streamlined look.

Since we're no spring chickens, we thought we'd add a red dot for better and faster target acquisition and decided to also make a custom front post to be able to co-witness (luckily we have a MetalSupermarket nearby to get the right steel). Add to that front checkering in the guide rod, an extended mag release button and Guzzi's custom trigger job and voilá, a masterpiece was born.

Since I'm an attorney by trade we decided to call it The 5906 Esquire or 5906 ESQ. I'll be posting later on this thread some pictures of our work throughout the project, but for the time being, enjoy the finished product. I can't thank Guzzi enough for his help and for his artistry. He's truly one of a kind.
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Old 03-13-2022, 08:25 AM
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Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful!
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Old 03-13-2022, 08:27 AM
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Beautiful pistol and a fitting name.
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Old 03-13-2022, 03:59 PM
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Those mini serrations at the front scream out class... quietly!
It’s little touches like that I look for to know the gun was designed and executed by an artisan. Friend Guzzi just keeps going to new levels of cool.
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Old 03-13-2022, 04:11 PM
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The dust cover cut matching the scallop angle is awesome.
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Old 03-13-2022, 04:41 PM
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"The Esquire" is a great name for competition inspired, customized pistol for an attorney and member of the "landed gentry".

It behooves you now to retain the services of Artisan Guzzi to build you a one-off, compact, defensive pistol aptly named "The Advocate". . .

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Followed by a no nonsense .45 one called “The Jury”
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Nice....................... but..... for a EDC carry gun


I'll stick with my Squidsix built 6915..... a 6906 lower mated to a 915 upper !!!!

For gaming I've got a 1990s Performance Center DPA 5906


That said ...................... nice gun I'd be proud to own!!!
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Old 03-13-2022, 05:29 PM
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Followed by a no nonsense .45 one called “The Jury”
I like the name "The Jury"

But I like it better for a 12 shot pistol like the 6906.

As in, "Better to be be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

Some might say the 6906 pistol is in reality, a 13 shot.

But hey, a jury has got to have an alternate, right?

A no nonsense 45 should be called "The Judge", but somebody already thought of that.

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Nice....................... but..... for a EDC carry gun


I'll stick with my Squidsix built 6915..... a 6906 lower mated to a 915 upper !!!!

For gaming I've got a 1990s Performance Center DPA 5906


That said ...................... nice gun I'd be proud to own!!!
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Guzzi texted me those pics a couple of days ago . I told him I want my 5906 to look like that . He's got my 5906 frame that he totally went through and polished out any imperfections . Now I just need a slide , but I'm pretty sure I have one that will work .He's got my 908s with a blued slide , but it's got an LPA adjustable on it . Let us know how that baby performs on the range !
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As promised, I'd like to add some context to the level of work that was required to bring to life the M5906 ESQ. It all started with a call from Guzzi..."There are a couple of 5906 frames for sale at centerfire Systems for $70 each. They may be a little banged up but, I promise we can restore them. You won't regret it. A steel frame is nothing like you've ever shot" Mind you that Guzzi had been preaching the Gospel of Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson for years while I refused to get out of M9 land, so I said to myself "OK, why not?". So this is pretty much what we got...



I originally wanted a 5906 slide but weeks later I got a deal on a pretty banged 915 slide and parts so I decided to go for that and try a two tone for once. After a first clean and some work on the slide this is what the initial assembly looked like. I was beginning to like where this was going.



Now it was time to think what to do with it. From the start I know I wanted something different. I looked at the newer PC M&P pistols and the old 3rd gens. I looked at 1911s from Nighthawk and Heirloom and I was then sure what I wanted: discreet serrations on the scallop. Guzzi looked at me with hesitation and with the word "blasphemy" at the tip of his tongue". That is not a traditional 3rd gen look. It was only after seeing the PC40/PC35 competition pistol that he somehow agreed with a warning "those are tough serrations to make, much more difficult and precise than regular serrations because you want to ensure that they go at the exact depth and length over the scallop, they can't be too deep and you need to ensure proper distance with the front and angle of the scallop". I laughed, knowing that he was capable of pulling it off and he did, masterfully:







In the next post I'll tell you about red dots and making a custom post for co-witnessing. Hope you enjoy.

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I was thinking if it has a 6 round magazine, you could call it the Pall Bearer.
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If it had a 10 round magazine, would it be The Grand Jury?

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I don't know how to describe when I seen this lol. A little too excited
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Very nice work. All the fellows here that do this type of work to S/Ws really do a nice job..
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In the next post I'll tell you about red dots and making a custom post for co-witnessing. Hope you enjoy.
Awesome pistol.

Please do elaborate on the dot setup I'm looking into this myself presently.
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Pretty outstanding. I'm starting to wonder why I've never owned a two tone pistol.
Very sharp.
Looking forward to more project pictures.
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That is a fantastic way to make rough metal into a diamond and it's the only one in the world with that S/N!! Very well done.

I have an all original 5906 purchased new in 1993-1994, box papers and all which won't be modified BUT if a rough specimen was acquired I'd have to do a little copy catting!! They are metal masterpieces.
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Beautiful work! I would love to have my old Star Super B refinished like that if I had the skills! Well done Guzzitaco!
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Beautiful work! I would love to have my old Star Super B refinished like that if I had the skills! Well done Guzzitaco!
Thanks !!!

This was a fun project. Ampoyet is my best friend, and he lives close by, so we got to work on this together...

I don't want to hijack the thread, but this project has a few unique features...

1) the front sight was made from scratch to co-witness with the red dot. Ampoyet was set on this, so we had to find a way to made it and I learned a lot...

2) This is the first time I do serrations on the scallop...I was concerned how they would look/work...but I must say that Ampoyets' idea works great...

3) The slanted frame makes it look great...again Ampoyet's idea...we tried it first on another 5906 project...but it IMHO it gives the pistol a cleaner look..

I took very few pics of this project since Ampoyet was taking a ton of them...I hope he publishes more...

here, some pics I took of the finished project...

















Guzzi

PS: you might one to check this other project...

M5903 project (Mk I)
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Beautiful work as always friend Guzzi. I’m curious though as to why you and he chose all blued/blackened parts instead of stainless? With the stainless frame, I guess you got better contrast with the trigger and slide stop, but I really like the looks of the stainless ambi safety on my blued slides (on Franken-Smith). After all, I got one of them from you. Like a dash of pepper on my eggs, they just add some spice.

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Once we find a slide , that's what I want mine to look like . Of course mine will wear a Sig Romeo like my others . At the range Colt_saa was telling me they have a new model out , no more on/off button . Again , something you could hang up in your art gallery .
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Awesome pistol.

Please do elaborate on the dot setup I'm looking into this myself presently.
Thanks everyone for the comments. It is indeed a unique pistol so I am happy to share more about it.

The red dot setup is actually kinda what triggered the entire project because I had seen Guzzi's own 3rd gen with a Sig Romeo and given that I was not familiar with pistol red dots I thought it made sense to get on board with the new technology but in a properly built metal pistol. Don't get me started with the polymers or striker-fire pistol...

So Optima already had a red dot aluminum base which would fit the 59 series at a decent price (and tried by Guzzi and by Cherrypointmarine) so that looked like a logical way to go. However, I opted for a Holosun red dot rather than a Rome for two reasons: Aluminum housing and glass. Why was that important? I don't own safe queens. Any gun that I own needs to be a "SHTF-able" tool. I need to be able to run them hard and with confidence in any scenario (more on this reasoning later). Choosing a Holosun red dot has some implications because the Optima base pattern doesn't perfectly fit the Holosuns so we had to flatten two of the attachment guides so that it would fit (not a problem because you still get 4 attachment points when you include the two dovetail screws. Really not a biggie.

Now, where things got interesting is when I told Guzzi we needed to co-witness. A proper "SHTF-able" pistol cannot rely solely on batteries so co-witnessing was for me a must. The problem, of course, is that there aren't any ready to go solutions in the market for our setup. Older pistol, aluminum base with a red dot? Most people just laughed when I called except for Dawson who told me they could fabricate one for (get ready for Dr. Evil's face): "SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS". Just kidding of course, but it wasn't cheap so I told Guzzi. I think we can make it. So the task began of thinking where to find proper steel and we were fortunate to locate a Metals Supermarket in the area and sourced a square-forged rod. Now let's get to work.



So that was our guinea pig. First step was to create the dovetail for the base. Not an issue for the talented Guzzi. Couple of passes and done. Where things got interesting was on the shaving of the sides because afixing the dovetailed base to the vise without damaging it required some work but after some work and swearing we got it to work.





Then some work on the angle and voila.



We took some measurements, shaved a bit of the top and did some initial fitting based on rough measurements. Guzzi took a picture and sent it to Bill who aptly commented: "That thing looks like a sailboat"...



So here is where we got to the real tricky part: Co-witnessing. To be able to co-witness you need to ensure proper alignment between the rear and front sights. The Holosun red dot has a built in rear sight which is not that good as the aperture is very short, so it is tricky to do a proper measurement of the distance between the base of the slide and the "summit" of the built-in rear sight (you need a good caliper - don't bother if you have a cheap one) but you also need to account for some difference in angle between the rear of the slide and the front. Yes, they are not perfectly flat, even less the "value" 915, so Guzzi had the brilliant idea of not just measuring but looking at the sizes of the original sights adding the added height and then we were able to match/confirm the measurement. From there (a couple of days later, literally) it was downhill. All we needed to do was to shave the excess, add serrations and fit. We opted just for serrations and no dot or fiber optic because we didn't want to have multiple sight points with a red dot. The front sight just needed to be the right size and I'll do the rest if the red dot fails.



So that's it for the red dot co-witness saga. We learned a ton and it was very fun. I'm absolutely delighted with the work. As previously said, Guzzi is an artisan. A true renaissance man of many talents.

More on the build in a later post.

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Beautiful work as always friend Guzzi. I’m curious though as to why you and he chose all blued/blackened parts instead of stainless? With the stainless frame, I guess you got better contrast with the trigger and slide stop, but I really like the looks of the stainless ambi safety on my blued slides (on Franken-Smith). After all, I got one of them from you. Like a dash of pepper on my eggs, they just add some spice.

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The "color combination' on this build was choosen by Ampoyet. I like my two-tone guns all "silver color" parts on the frame...



but I have two admit this ESQ turned out very nice...

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Once we find a slide , that's what I want mine to look like . Of course mine will wear a Sig Romeo like my others . At the range Colt_saa was telling me they have a new model out , no more on/off button . Again , something you could hang up in your art gallery .
Looking forward to work on that slide...

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Wonderful tribute to steel pistols. Nothing else feels the same. Thank you for posting!
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So, as promised here are some pictures of the range test of the ESQ after adjusting the red dot @ +/- 30 ft. Just flawless. Shot brass and aluminum casing without a single hiccup. Amazing gun and super precise. Guzzi is an artisan. Truly amazing work. Enjoy.
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Old 07-03-2022, 08:23 PM
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I can't wait for Guzzi to finish my 5906 . I'm going with an LPA rear sight for mine .He put red dots on my 45Recon and one of my 745's . It really woke my Recon up .
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