Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Semi-Automatic Pistols > Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols
o

Notices

Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols Other Smith & Wesson Semi-Automatic Pistols from the 1950's to Present


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-25-2022, 08:56 AM
metalsocket metalsocket is offline
Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default S&W 5906 SAO conversion

Hello,

Bought a S&W 5906, excellent build quality and very accurate. However. the DA pull is long and heavy. Any idea how to do a SAO conversion. Any parts available online?

Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-25-2022, 10:28 AM
WR Moore WR Moore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,422
Likes: 885
Liked 3,890 Times in 1,966 Posts
Default

I'm assuming you want this for range use only? It's unlikely you'll find parts online. At one time there were Performance Center versions of the 5906 intended for PPC competition that MAY have been single action like the 952 and 745. There are a couple of retired S&W armorers here who might be able to chip in.

A lighter trigger return spring plus some additional practice will help with that initial DA trigger press. FWIW, the minimum SA pull specification is 4.5 lbs.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-25-2022, 10:47 AM
mikerjf mikerjf is online now
Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,496
Likes: 1,496
Liked 2,350 Times in 889 Posts
Default

If you remove the decock plunger, wouldn’t that about do it? You could carry hammer down or cond 1 as you choose.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-25-2022, 03:05 PM
JohnHL JohnHL is offline
SWCA Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 8,779
Liked 4,584 Times in 1,837 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by metalsocket View Post
Hello,

Bought a S&W 5906, excellent build quality and very accurate. However. the DA pull is long and heavy. Any idea how to do a SAO conversion. Any parts available online?

Thank you.
Easy.

Grind the double action notches off of the DA/SA hammer.

Voila: SAO!

If you would like to be able to place it in a "cocked and locked" condition, grind the foot off of the sear release lever.

If you want to be able to return to original (DA/SA) condition, buy a used hammer and sear release lever, modify those, and keep your originals unmolested.

Or, modify nothing and manually cock the hammer for your first shot.

Oh, and welcome to the Forum.

John
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 06-25-2022, 03:12 PM
BAM-BAM BAM-BAM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A Burb of the Burgh
Posts: 13,928
Likes: 686
Liked 18,519 Times in 8,215 Posts
Default

I'd just go with "D"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-25-2022, 08:09 PM
metalsocket metalsocket is offline
Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnHL View Post
Easy.

Grind the double action notches off of the DA/SA hammer.

Voila: SAO!

If you would like to be able to place it in a "cocked and locked" condition, grind the foot off of the sear release lever.

If you want to be able to return to original (DA/SA) condition, buy a used hammer and sear release lever, modify those, and keep your originals unmolested.

Or, modify nothing and manually cock the hammer for your first shot.

Oh, and welcome to the Forum.

John
Thanks John, cocked & locked sounds good. Let me give it a try. Found some photos online, can you to let me know where to do the cut?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg SN101-3-5(7).jpg (154.4 KB, 26 views)
File Type: jpg s-l1600 (5).jpg (49.1 KB, 16 views)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-26-2022, 12:35 AM
catcus-jack catcus-jack is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 437
Likes: 125
Liked 367 Times in 157 Posts
Default

Learn how to shoot the double action or sell it and buy a single action pistol.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #8  
Old 06-26-2022, 01:45 AM
JohnHL JohnHL is offline
SWCA Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 8,779
Liked 4,584 Times in 1,837 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by metalsocket View Post
Thanks John, cocked & locked sounds good. Let me give it a try. Found some photos online, can you to let me know where to do the cut?
Leave the notch closest to the front of the hammer.

That is the SA notch.

Remove the next two going back towards the rear of the hammer.

Grind away the lowest part of the sear release lever protruding in front of the pivot hole.

Keeping your original parts and modifying spares assures you that your old parts will fit and function without the need to adjust decock timing.

Performance Center SA hammers can sometimes be found, but I haven't seen any around in a while.

Midway has the "Firing Pin Retainer Spacer" (the "footless" substitute for the sear release lever, as used on the DAO models) that will also work for your conversion.

John
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 06-26-2022, 01:51 AM
JohnHL JohnHL is offline
SWCA Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 8,779
Liked 4,584 Times in 1,837 Posts
Default

Firing Pin Retainer Spacer: Smith & Wesson Firing Pin Retainer Spacer S&W 3953TSW 4043TSW 4046TSW

John
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-26-2022, 09:16 AM
metalsocket metalsocket is offline
Member
S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion S&W 5906 SAO conversion  
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for that
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-26-2022, 09:35 AM
malph malph is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Posen, IL, USA
Posts: 513
Likes: 1,058
Liked 661 Times in 278 Posts
Default

At one time, the Performance Center offered single-action conversion of 3rd Gens as a service.

I kind of doubt they still do but I am not sure of that.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-26-2022, 10:47 AM
Jim Watson Jim Watson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Florence, Alabama, USA
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 30
Liked 1,077 Times in 620 Posts
Default

As I understand the 3rd generation action, none of the modifications suggested will give you a Cocked and LOCKED capability.

You can delete the decocking function, you can delete the DA engagements altogether, which will let you carry it cocked with the slide lever turned down. But if the trigger is pulled, the hammer will fall. It will land on the safety barrel and not fire the gun, but now you are in a hammer down condition with no quick way to get started shooting.

My Model 52 operates that way, it is promoted as a dry fire method. But it is not something I would want on a defensive weapon or action competition pistol.
Say, what will YOU be doing with it?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-26-2022, 11:08 AM
WR Moore WR Moore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,422
Likes: 885
Liked 3,890 Times in 1,966 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
As I understand the 3rd generation action, none of the modifications suggested will give you a Cocked and LOCKED capability.

You can delete the decocking function, you can delete the DA engagements altogether, which will let you carry it cocked with the slide lever turned down. But if the trigger is pulled, the hammer will fall. It will land on the safety barrel and not fire the gun, but now you are in a hammer down condition with no quick way to get started shooting.

My Model 52 operates that way, it is promoted as a dry fire method.
I have no idea how the model 52 works, but if a TDA S&W hasn't had the magazine safety modified*, putting the safety lever down disconnects the trigger from the hammer by depressing the disconnector. You can stroke it back and forth all day, but the hammer won't fall.

*Come to think of it, you could modify the barrel of the safety/decocker to eliminate disconnecting the trigger bar from the hammer. But, that's a lot of work and might excessively weaken the safety.

Last edited by WR Moore; 06-28-2022 at 06:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
S&W 5906/5926 conversion, similarities SolidCustom Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 13 09-04-2021 02:31 AM
5906 Single Action Conversion Ohsheepdog Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 0 04-13-2020 09:27 PM
WITHDRAWN WTS: 5906 MAGS , MARVEL 22 CONVERSION KIT (SPF), PC 5906 BASEPLATES (SOLD) PPCSHOOTER Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 4 12-15-2019 12:56 PM
5906 conversion...... armorer951 S&W-Smithing 5 12-27-2017 10:16 AM
5906 Grip Conversion? randyp6 Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 1 12-09-2014 05:07 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:12 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)