Looking for a source for CS40 recoil springs - usual sources seem to no longer list them - any alternate springs (CS9? or ???) would like to get 2 new springs for pistols I have purchased in past year.

Have you contacted S&W?

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Might be hard finding a S&W replacement so you may have to try some springs for other pistols & tweak them.

I suggested a couple springs in this post but as I said in it, I don't have a CS40 to test them in.

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BMCM looks like we are gonna need springs

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Which sites have you checked so far?

Thanks, but TMI and thread seems to wander into 1911 territory.

But from what I gather there seemed to be 2 options being considered W-C 10SEN22 (22#) recoil spring and ISMI flat wire GLC-22 (22# strength & 31 coils). These were being evaluated, but mostly in a 4013 and a CS9. Did noot see a conclusion (or maybe I missed it?) relative to the CS40.

As to factory springs, the P/N I have for CS40/CS45 is 263310000 (CS9 is 263210000) but photo ow Midway 414045 (no longer available) indicates same spring for CS40, CS45, CS9D????

I'm not sure that is correct. CS40/45 seem to share recoil rod and spring, but I think the CS9 is different.

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Agree they are different P/N per SW - believe Midway label including CS9D is incorrect and they still list the CS9 spring under a different P/N

Midway, Numrich, Brownells - have email in to SW but dont hold much hope there based on past experience trying to buy parts direct from them.
Any other suggestions welcome.

Last time I called S&W with a question about my CS9, the CS rep offered to send me a recoil spring at no charge.

I've never emailed them, always called them with good results.

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Totally deja vu. Again. This question has been thought out and discussed here a bunch but I still follow every time.

Nothing has changed it seems except I have fewer new ones now. The little 3.25” 945 I got takes the same recoil spring so that’s good but bad.

It would seem like “someone” could manufacture these springs. (Wolf, Sprinco.) Of course there isn’t an astronomical total of CS40’s/45’s and 945’s that S&W made but there is more than a few. Even a limited run would be profitable. If they were available I’m sure many of use would buy a lifetime of them this time.

I always scoffed when people said that they wouldn’t ever buy a 3rd Gen, (or the 1st/2nd,) due to lack of factory support and parts. Most every part can still be found except for these recoil springs.

I sure hope those that only have the new “plastic” S&W examples don’t read this.

Jim

Don't hold your breath on Sprinco.

In 2016 I asked Sprinco/Alan if he would be interested in making another 3rd Gen item & he said he was disappointed with the "lackluster response" to his dual nested recoil spring investment & would be "reluctant to go out on a limb" for another 3rd Gen part.

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Maybe I had better purchase a couple more - just so he knows we are still out here.

wyo-man

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What springs did he make? If they are duals for a 4013 I'll buy a bunch of them!

Yes, they are the duals for the 4516, the dual spring 4013, and 457.

wyo-man

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So, would these dual spring Sprinco's for the 4516, 4013, and 457 also work for a CS40/CS45? If so, count me in also.

In the email conversation I mentioned above with Sprinco/Alan he said no one ever gave him a comprehensive list of the pistols the nested/dual springs work in.

I added those models in my reply but he's never fully listed them (though I see he finally expanded some on the models listed) which I don't understand.

Those models are:

4013TSW
4053TSW
4056TSW
4013 (R4)
4014 (R4)
4040
4053 (R4)
4054 (R4)
4516 (all except -1)
4513TSW
4553TSW
457
457D

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No the CS40/45 use single springs

No Joy with SW - no recoil springs for CS40 in stock

Did they say if it's no longer available or just not in stock?

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The guy took forever and came back and just said they did not have them. Seemed young and not that familiar with 3rd gen pistols. Figured I would try again later.

Probably not in stock for sale but for warranty or service work.

They asked for S/N so dont think they were there or guy couldnt find them

Any progress on CS40 / CS45 Recoil Springs???

No nothing new to report. But….

A couple of years ago I started pondering this problem. I have a bag full of new recoil springs including CS40/45’s. I didn’t want to get a bunch of negative responses from those that really do know much more than me. I never mentioned my thoughts.

It “seems” at least to me that the outer spring from the .45 compact double sprung/nested springs would work. One of the new outer springs seemed a bit stiff and the inner seemed a bit light.

I really think that the outer of the double sprung compact .45‘s will work in the CS40/45’s. They both have the same number of coils and are the same length.

Jim

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I was under the impression that the CS40/CS45 were flat wire - now i will have to go check. But as to equivalence assuming the length and number of coils are the same, the other factors determining spring constant are coil diameter and wire shape/dimensions - with wire shape and dimensions being critical.

Well it seems that the CS40 I got had the recoil spring changed out with one that wasn’t original. I didn’t change it out because it looked brand new as did the pistol. It actually functions perfectly although it’s most likely an outer intended for a double sprung .45.

Of course the originals were flat wire, (and much shorter than the “outies.”) I’m not sure why I didn’t notice that to begin with and then go on to say what I did as true/factual.

Even though the longer round wire one works I just changed it out with the correct CS one. Sorry I added misinformation.

Back to the original issue of finding more correct CS recoil springs.

Jim

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I've been looking over several threads, but haven't been able to find a consensus on a substitute for the S&W CS40/CS45 factory recoil springs, which seem unavailable. I recently purchased a 945-1 with the 3.25 inch barrel. After lubricating it, I fired a few rounds through it. It functioned flawlessly, but I suspect the recoil spring is original and would prefer to replace it before firing the pistol again. Any thoughts on springs for this pistol or the CS40/CS45 would be greatly appreciated!

Here is the thread you need. You must skip down well into the thread to find the part about the springs:
CS40 added to the collection (last content added: alternate recoil springs tested)
Let us know what you think!
Kind regards,
BrianD

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Thanks! I somehow missed the later posts from Bluedot37. I have a set of the nested springs I can try, and will order a Wilson Combat spring to try as well. The information and work from the other members here is greatly appreciated - it would be a shame to not use a fine pistol because factory recoil springs are no longer available!