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Old 03-10-2009, 09:30 PM
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I'm waiting on the arrival the SW99 40 I just purchased and started to look around for some FMJ ammo so I could get used to the new gun. The last handgun I bought was a SW Model 19-3 more than 30 years ago and I haven't fired it since about the time I retired from the Army.

I checked some of the web vendors I'd seen mentioned on this and other forums found that most were showing their ball ammo as out of stock. Checked the local Wal-Mart today and was told they haven't had any 40 cal for some time and have no idea when it will be in. Guy said, "we've been having trouble getting ammo since the new administration came in". What's up with that? Has there been some change in federal regs, a spike in demand, a slowdown in production?
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I'm waiting on the arrival the SW99 40 I just purchased and started to look around for some FMJ ammo so I could get used to the new gun. The last handgun I bought was a SW Model 19-3 more than 30 years ago and I haven't fired it since about the time I retired from the Army.

I checked some of the web vendors I'd seen mentioned on this and other forums found that most were showing their ball ammo as out of stock. Checked the local Wal-Mart today and was told they haven't had any 40 cal for some time and have no idea when it will be in. Guy said, "we've been having trouble getting ammo since the new administration came in". What's up with that? Has there been some change in federal regs, a spike in demand, a slowdown in production?
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:27 PM
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Everyone is hoarding ammo and reloading supplies anticipating a weapon/ammo ban.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:29 PM
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There was an election that scared most gun owners (I said MOST). Stockpiling, panic buying when there is any ammo in stock, BIG spike in demand and BIG spike in price in some retailers.
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They are replacing guns & ammo with Kool Aid.
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I've had a hard time finding .40 as well. A few boxes of 9mm pop up every now and then but thats it.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:43 AM
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Wally World has been about the best source here in the midwest. They run out from time to time but always seem to get more in the next week. Prices on the .40 cal has been around $12.49 a box and 9mm has held at $19.99 for Winchester 100 rd white box. You might give them a try if one is close to you.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:02 AM
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Reloading supplies in the midwest have been taking a beating. All of the popular calibers are sold out and the stores say they can't locate any to get in. One told me the major suppliers said they are even sitting on backorder from their suppliers.
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Welcome to the forum lpfist. You must not watch much TV news...and are probably a better person for it. The new president isn't too keen on guns. If he didn't have everyone riding him to fix the economy, we'd probably have already had more attempts to regulate our guns than we have. I hope its all talk and news media propaganda but who knows. Again, welcome to the forum.
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Everytime I go to Walmart I buy a box of 40 ammo. As of now I have 7 boxes.
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The economic situation also plays a part. Some calibers were hard to get even before the election of course, particularly 5.56mm. Production capacity was already having some problems.

These days one is left to try to scrounge up what they can or else get a bucket of war rocks ready.
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With everything else on his plate, I doubt he is in a big hurry to pick a fight with gun owners and the NRA. From what I've been seeing the Democrats in general and Obama in particular have not been making a lot of noise about gun control.

That said, I'm still having trouble finding cheap ball ammo here in the Seattle/Tacoma area. Checked with several local Wally Worlds and a local chain called Joe's without success. Also checked a couple of local gun shops and all I find on the shelves is hot/pricey defense loads.

Hell of a thing to buy my first new pistol in 30+ years then not be able to find bullets. I'll be damned if I want burn $30/box ammo just to put enough rounds downrange to feel comfortable with the weapon.
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This must be a regional thing. I've never had trouble finding .40 practice ammo in Northern VA.
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Are you kidding? Have you tried to buy primers or any other reloading supplies. Virtually non existant. I wonder how many of the people who are hoarding the supplies voted for our ****** president? Of course, non of those people will admit it. Mad, heck ya. We all saw the writing on the wall before Nov. Oh, but Obama will save the world!!! Why has the stock market fallen 25% since he has taken office? Anybody that voted for him should be ashamed.
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I voted for him and I'm not ashamed. You blame the financial debacle on an administration that has been in office fewer than 60 days? You're the one who should be ashamed for your lack of critical thinking ability.

And before you crawl my ***** I spent 22 years on active duty, 14 of them in SE Asia. Gun owner, reloader, hunter, shooter for more than 60 years.

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You can take your suit off. This is the semi-auto forum and we'll keep the discussion to that.

To All:
Take the politics to our Political Forum, it was added so folks could get this stuff off their chest there.

Thanks all for your help on this. Let's keep the discussion on topic and civil please.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:13 PM
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:44 PM
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Wally World has been about the best source here in the midwest. They run out from time to time but always seem to get more in the next week. Prices on the .40 cal has been around $12.49 a box and 9mm has held at $19.99 for Winchester 100 rd white box. You might give them a try if one is close to you.
Where is this ammo shortage? Apparently it hasn't made it to Connecticut. In the last month, including yesterday, I've purchased 8 boxes of Winchester White Box .40 S&W at $28.97 a box of 100 at Wally World, myself. My local gun stores don't seem short anything. 7.62x39 is available at the East Windsor gun store and both Newington gun stores, but most internet dealers are out. Go figure.
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With everything else on his plate, I doubt he is in a big hurry to pick a fight with gun owners and the NRA. From what I've been seeing the Democrats in general and Obama in particular have not been making a lot of noise about gun control.

That said, I'm still having trouble finding cheap ball ammo here in the Seattle/Tacoma area. Checked with several local Wally Worlds and a local chain called Joe's without success. Also checked a couple of local gun shops and all I find on the shelves is hot/pricey defense loads.

Hell of a thing to buy my first new pistol in 30+ years then not be able to find bullets. I'll be damned if I want burn $30/box ammo just to put enough rounds downrange to feel comfortable with the weapon.
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The ammo shortage has been sporatic. For the last couple of months, it has been impossible to find any of the 100 packs of 9mm ammo at the three Wal-Marts between work and home. Last week, the "best" of the three had a shipment of 10 boxes of WWB FMJ 100 packs and surprisingly 20 boxes of Remington 115 gr JHP 100 packs. I reduced their inventory of the Remingtons immediately.
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This must be a regional thing. I've never had trouble finding .40 practice ammo in Northern VA.
It (.40 FMJ) dried up until recently in my area and will probably dry up again. Though Gander had some at scalper's prices. Oddly, .45 FMJ has been the only thing consistently to be had.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:31 PM
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I'd agree, the real problem is the price of quality ammunition. This didn't happen when Obama was elected, this has been going on for the last ten years. To become comfortable and shoot often with a quality self-defense round it will end up costing you more than you paid for the gun, itself, in no time. You'd get a good laugh going through my 25+ .50cal ammo cans filled with ammo I purchased in the nineties. I've boxes of reload FMJ 9mm that still has the price sticker on the 50 round boxes-$5.25 Factory 9mm, $12 for 100 rounds. 7.62x39 used to be delivered to your door, including shipping. for $63 for 1000 rounds from the Sportsman's Guide. It's a good idea to buy now if you can find it because ammo, like everything else, never goes down in price.
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Whatever caused it, about mid-November, my local Wally World, which has been my source for Winchester White Box .45 ACP at $28.99 per hundred since the store opened a year earlier, simply dried up. The .38 special lasted a few weeks longer and the .22 LR until about New Years. They now have some bulk pack shotgun shells and a limited supply of hunting rifle ammo. They say it is on backorder but the warehouse has none and doesn't know when it will. Tried the WWs in the next town and the next county. Same story. This past weekend I took a drive across 3 states. It wasn't an ammo run, but I timed my rest stops to coincide with big-box and/or sporting goods stores. Results: Bass Pro: an end cap full of 9mm Remington hardball at $12.99, NO .45 ACP, 1 (20 round)box of .40 S&W self-defense rounds, all the rimfire ammo in the place on one end cap; Gander Mountain: NO .45, no economy grade 9mm or .40, plenty of rimfire in all calibers and grades; Wal-Mart #1 - 2 250 round bulk packs of UMC .45 Acp (Now only 1!) 1 bulk pack of 40 S&W, 2 of 9mm. No smaller boxes of any pistol caliber except .380 auto. I had to point out the bulk packs to the clerk, he thought they were completely out and gave the same account about the warehouse being out. (This is a very depressed area and it is just possible no one was willing to part with $85 for a box of ammo when they can trade turnips for a magazine full at a time - I can say that, because I are one of them!) Walmart #2: Clerk didn't even look - we are out, have been for months, warehouse is out, have been for months, don't know when we will get more. Visual showed a few boxes of .380, .357 Mag., .38 Spl.

Two of the WalMarts were in rural areas and typically have relatively well stocked sporting goods and firearms departments. The 2 closest to me are more suburban and being out of a specific caliber for a week or two is not unheard of.

If a retailer the size of Wally World can't get ammo it tells me that either the source at the wholesale level has dried up temporarily and will soon trickle down to the local shops OR Wally World and the Mega-Sporting Goods stores have a preset price they are willing to pay (maybe even have contracted to pay) and the manufacturers know that wholesalers will pay more in the current climate and pass the costs on to the customer.
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Conn,I just got back from e windsor,The prices have gone up signifigantly[no specifics sorry] in the last two weeks. You are absolutely correct in that his shelves are packed. The Walmart up rte. 5 however has two boxes of 25 two of 38special one of 40 and one or two of 357.pretty sparse there. Something other than supply and demand going on there, I suspect.The show at the Big E this weekend may prove illuminating?
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Wally World has been about the best source here in the midwest. They run out from time to time but always seem to get more in the next week. Prices on the .40 cal has been around $12.49 a box and 9mm has held at $19.99 for Winchester 100 rd white box. You might give them a try if one is close to you.
Where is this ammo shortage? Apparently it hasn't made it to Connecticut. In the last month, including yesterday, I've purchased 8 boxes of Winchester White Box .40 S&W at $28.97 a box of 100 at Wally World, myself. My local gun stores don't seem short anything. 7.62x39 is available at the East Windsor gun store and both Newington gun stores, but most internet dealers are out. Go figure.
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My Dad was at the Cabela's in St. Louis today and he said they had about 50 boxes of .38 Spl., and about 30 boxes of 9mm. He bought 20 boxes of the .38, and 10 of the 9mm. He said they didn't have as good a supply in .40 or .45 and they were completely out of .380. He asked at the counter about the .380 and they told him that not only did they not have any, but their computer system showed absolutely ZERO .380 inventory at any Cabela's in the country. And they had no idea when they would be getting any in.

Now having said all of that, he was looking for target ammo, not personal protection or hunting ammo, so it's possible they did have some HP's in stock that he didn't inquire about.
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GreenGael, the Rocky Hill and Cromwell Walmarts are usually well stocked for ammo. East Windsor and Newington are a waste of time. Cabela's has everything as well as Hoffman's. Like the gun store in East Windsor, they want your eye teeth for a box of 50 The E. Windsor gun store has the most incredibly high prices on handguns that I'm surprised they're still in business. Come on, a Sigma 9VE for $365 Used guns seem to be drying up in the Hartford area. You'd think that with tough economic times the gun stores would be full of guns on consignment or trade-ins. The worst part about buying ammo at any Walmart is finding someone to unlock the ammo case and ring you out. Last Wednesday I found 2 boxes of Winchester 40S&W at the Rocky Hill Wally and was willing to walk around the store for 15 minutes for some help. Glad I did.
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I timed my trip just right today. I stopped by a walmart on my way home from work and found they had just gotten in about a dozen boxes of .40. I hadn't seen .40 around here for awhile. After me and they guy behind me checked out there were only a couple left. If I find it I buy it.
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My local WalMart has been out for the past 3-4 weeks. I stopped by Wednesday morning after work to pick up dog food and out of habit swung by the sporting goods counter. Low and behold there were 7 boxes of Winchester 100ct 9mm, 3 50ct boxes of .40 FMJ and 4 50ct boxes of .40 JHP. I left with 2 boxes of 9mm for my mother's pistol and 2 boxes of the .40 JHP for myself. Oh, and the dog food as well. I make it a point to pick up at least 1 box of each every payday if possible. I've located a pawn shop nearby that's sitting on a mountain of various Winchester white box handgun calibers at comparable prices to WM.
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GreenGael, the Rocky Hill and Cromwell Walmarts are usually well stocked for ammo. East Windsor and Newington are a waste of time. Cabela's has everything as well as Hoffman's. Like the gun store in East Windsor, they want your eye teeth for a box of 50 The E. Windsor gun store has the most incredibly high prices on handguns that I'm surprised they're still in business. Come on, a Sigma 9VE for $365 Used guns seem to be drying up in the Hartford area. You'd think that with tough economic times the gun stores would be full of guns on consignment or trade-ins. The worst part about buying ammo at any Walmart is finding someone to unlock the ammo case and ring you out. Last Wednesday I found 2 boxes of Winchester 40S&W at the Rocky Hill Wally and was willing to walk around the store for 15 minutes for some help. Glad I did.
All you have to do in the Newington Wal-Mart store is ask for it,
it's in the Tire and Lube Center area behind a locked door.
It is no longer in their glass ammo cabinet,
the lock broke and they decided to not get it fixed.
They always have plenty of ammo in all the caliber's.
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GreenGael, the Rocky Hill and Cromwell Walmarts are usually well stocked for ammo. East Windsor and Newington are a waste of time. Cabela's has everything as well as Hoffman's. Like the gun store in East Windsor, they want your eye teeth for a box of 50 The E. Windsor gun store has the most incredibly high prices on handguns that I'm surprised they're still in business. Come on, a Sigma 9VE for $365 Used guns seem to be drying up in the Hartford area. You'd think that with tough economic times the gun stores would be full of guns on consignment or trade-ins. The worst part about buying ammo at any Walmart is finding someone to unlock the ammo case and ring you out. Last Wednesday I found 2 boxes of Winchester 40S&W at the Rocky Hill Wally and was willing to walk around the store for 15 minutes for some help. Glad I did.
All you have to do in the Newington Wal-Mart store is ask for it,
it's in the Tire and Lube Center area behind a locked door.
It is no longer in their glass ammo cabinet,
the lock broke and they decided to not get it fixed.
They always have plenty of ammo in all the caliber's.
The manager that orders for the hunting supplies is a good guy.
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Bad move, Bad_Man, I'm going to vacuum their 9mm and 40 S&W up. If the ammo is behind the auto service area, they must be well stocked because who on earth would ask for ammo when the ammo case is empty in sporting goods?
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I think they get restocked on Thursdays.
If it's after 4:00 pm., go over to electronics department and ask for assistance in getting ammo.
They will page a manager.
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I just scooped up 2 of the 3 boxes of 10mm at a show. No brass, grips, or 3rd gen. handguns themselves. Spooky Moulder.
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Try Scheels, the one here in Des Moines is still very well stocked. It IS THE ONLY PLACE that still is.
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Right on Don, thanks. Just got back from another show, found nothing but 1 box of Silvertips. Goofy.
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I know this won't help most of you, but, if your anywhere close to middle Tennessee there's plenty of all kinds of ammo, an FFL friend of mine told me last night that there's a place just outside of Murfreesboro, TN. @ exit # 89 on I-24, called the Outpost, (Ph. # 615-848-5060), they have literally pallets of .45, .40, .357, .38, 9 mm, .380 whatever you might need, and at good prices he says. Also rifle calibers, .223, .308, 7.62X39 etc. I don't know if this would have anything to do with it or not, but, it's owned by Ronnie Barrett, of Barrett Arms, (.50 ca. Barrett BMG Rifle) which is located just down the road ! ! !
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My local Walmart got some 9mm in between Sunday when I checked and this morning. They had been out of stock for several weeks.
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:41 PM
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I know this won't help most of you, but, if your anywhere close to middle Tennessee there's plenty of all kinds of ammo, an FFL friend of mine told me last night that there's a place just outside of Murfreesboro, TN. @ exit # 89 on I-24, called the Outpost, (Ph. # 615-848-5060), they have literally pallets of .45, .40, .357, .38, 9 mm, .380 whatever you might need, and at good prices he says. Also rifle calibers, .223, .308, 7.62X39 etc. I don't know if this would have anything to do with it or not, but, it's owned by Ronnie Barrett, of Barrett Arms, (.50 ca. Barrett BMG Rifle) which is located just down the road ! ! !
That's not too far from me. I spread the word to a couple people that are having trouble finding certain calibers, including .380
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:59 PM
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Our local Scheels has tons of 40 and 45. (mm is gone within a day. Just today my local Farm and Fleet had WWB 100 round boxes of 9mm, 40 and 45 - LOTS of stock! The 9mm and 40 is limited to 5 boxes per customer. The 9mm was on salle for $18.99 per 100 rd box.
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:50 PM
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My Walmart's got plenty of birdshot in all the gauges, as well as slugs in 20 gauge and .410. They had absolutely no handgun ammo except for 4 boxes of .25 ACP. Rifle ammo, they had Remington .223 (400 rounds FMJ, plus some SP, probably another 150-200 rounds), as well as Remington Core Lokt hunting rifle ammo in .243,.270,.308,.300 WM,7mm Mag, 7mm-08, and .30-06. Winchester had about 400 rounds of .223, 45 gr. HP. They also had probably 150 rounds of .30-06 and probably 100 or 7mm-08. 1 lonely box of sabot slugs. They had not one box of Federal ammo anywhere, and the supplies of CCI rimfire, while still existant, are dwindling every time I go down there. I wanted some value packs of 12 Ga. Buckshot and slugs, but they had none. They did have probably 300 rounds in the 5 round boxes when I was there last week, but I'm not paying $4.50 a box for that when I can get the 15 round Value Packs for $11. I don't need any that bad.

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Old 03-17-2009, 06:10 PM
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Wal-mart can't keep it. I try to buy a box or 2 of 22LR, 16ga, and now some 38spl for an old colt I inherited. I talked to an NRA rep at a gun show recently and he said there is an expected tax coming on ammo.

Additionally, a lot of "military" type of ammo, 9mm and .223 especially, is going overseas.

My motto, buy it if you can find it.
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I have had great success in getting ammo at a local gun shop. Wal-Mart rarely has much in any caliber. I pay a little more at the gun shop, but not much more and the ammo in 9, 40, 45 are available in numerous types and brands.

I got lucky this weekend and found 9 at Wal-Mart in Winchester $100 box for $21, but they were almost out so I bought a few hundred - great for target/range.
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