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Old 05-19-2009, 06:33 AM
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Has anyone been having problems with the external extractor on the S&W 1911's?
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:01 AM
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Hi Kilroy2721,
I have not had any problems and I was always one to point them out as a "cheaper" alternative to an already good design.
My S&W 1911 has run reliably since new and been shot quite a bit.
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I have owned a couple dozen S&W's with external extractors, including 2 of their 1911's. All have run fine.

S&W has done external extractors in volume sufficient to have the bugs well worked out.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:20 AM
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I know of no issues with them, although I don't like them on 1911's, just because they are not in keeping with JMB's original design. FWIW I don't like full legnth guidrods on 1911s for the same reason. It just doesn't belong there. OK I'm an old fogey at age 38.
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Old 05-19-2009, 02:26 PM
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You figure S&W has used external extractors on it's .45s' since '85 with little trouble. Wilson, Caspian and several other high end 1911s' have also used the external extractors. Yes, they wern't in the original design, but there have been a few other upgrades made that seem worthwhile also.
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I know of no issues with them, although I don't like them on 1911's, just because they are not in keeping with JMB's original design. FWIW I don't like full legnth guidrods on 1911s for the same reason. It just doesn't belong there. OK I'm an old fogey at age 38.
Didn't Kimber have problems with EEs on the Custom II?

A lot of people don't seem to like full length guide rods. Is there a reason other than the one you gave? I've read that two piece guide rods are easier when assembling after field stripping? Any details on that? Thanks
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:24 PM
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I have a S&W 1911PC external ex., as well as a bunch of 3rd gens with external. Many rounds fired, zero problems.

I have an old (1942) tuned 1911AI Colt, which while I never have had serious problems with the extractor, I have had it break. I keep a spare fitted extractor. I don’t think it’s the highpoint of JMB’s design.

SIG has changed their P220 from internal to external because of some problems with the internal.

I have both full length and two piece guide rods, I like the two piece better for routine field stripping. I am cautioned that it could unscrew itself under fire. Again many rounds fired, no problem.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:17 PM
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Conch,
The reason I prefer a non-guide rod gun is three fold.
1st, a press check is easier W/O one.
2nd, in some cases it could get in the way of a desperation rack of the action.
But the biggest one is just the principal of not liking to need a tool in order to tear one down.
All that said, I own 3 with them though!
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I have had no problems with mine at all, I will also go as far as to say that it is an improvement over the original in that you don't have to fit a new one every 1-2k rounds.

As for FLGR I have no problem with them or the original, I don't do press checks my gun is always loaded, I think a desperation rack is very unlikely for me, and I'm not sure how a tool is needed for the take down of the gun. Before I replaced my bushing with an EGW one I could push down on the plug and turn the bushing by hand, I now need a bushing wrench or other hard object to turn the bushing as it fits very tight.
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Unless you have one with a loaded chamber indicator or view milling, you have no idea what the status of the chamber is unless you check it?
I also pray to never have to rack a short stroked gun wounded wing, but it's much easier to do on a table top, chair rail or door's edge W/O that full length rod blocking the attempt?
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