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Old 05-25-2009, 07:14 AM
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I have an interest in purchasing a 10MM. Which pistol is best? Why? With current ammo prices, is it even worth investing in as I don't want another safe queen. Opinions please. Thanks!
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Unless you reload the 10mm ammo selection is rather thin. One advantage a revolver has is that it can shoot both .40 & 10mm.
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I think the standard, base model, the Model 1006, fit with the factory ajustable rear sight, is the best of the bunch. 5 inch barrel for full velocity from your cartridge. The option of carrying it with the safety/decocking lever in the "safe" position is a plus. The gun is a full sized holster gun, no doubt, but can be concealed with some effort in mild weather.

The S&W Tens are very, very strong, enginered to thrive on a diet of full power ammo, as opposed to the lighter, so-called "FBI Ten" ammo (a 180 grain bullet at about 850 fps when the cartridge is safely loaded by some makers with the same bullet between 1,150 and 1,200 fps), also known as the "FEEB 10" (local cops use the term "FeeBees" to refer to the special agents), the "Attenuated 10" or the "10MM Minus-P."

They tend to be accurate. The one piece backstrap is easier on your hands than the frame/mainspring housing.back edge of grip panels you will feel when you shoot a 1911/Delta 10. The single action trigger pull can be smooth and light.

If you feel the need to step up a bit in power from the .45 ACP and .40 S&W, this is a great way to go.) If you plan to shoot a lot, invest in a handloading outfit. Learning to shoot, and then maintaining that skill, requires the expenditure of a lot of ammunition, which gets expensive.
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If you're worried about ammo prices, investing, and safe queens, just buy a 40s&w.
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I have to agree with 10mm Sonny. I love my 10mm's but I reload. If I didn't I couldn't afford to shoot them. On the plus side if you reload the 10mm is cheaper to load for than the .45 ACP. I will warn you if you purchase a 10mm you might get addicted I know I did. Now I want them all.
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I've got a 4006 already and I'm looking to step up a bit. I am also into reloading, but I haven't seen much 10MM brass around. Thought about a 4" 610, but a 10MM pistol appeals to me more.
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Well if your looking for something thats new your limited to EAA , Glock or Dan Wesson for a good production class pistol . FOr now S&W are only offering the 610 revolver ...I think ...
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I have an interest in purchasing a 10MM.
Do you have a specific platform and use for a 10MM in mind ?
Glock has several models and Dan Wesson has many based upon the 1911 platform. If you decide upon the Glock 20 or 29 series you can always buy a 10-40 conversion barrel and shoot cheaper .40S&W for practice. If you reload shooting 10MM is a no brainer. .357 Magnum + power in a semi-auto is fun to shoot and hunt with.
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im thinking of gettind .40 and .357 sig barreks fitted for my Delta. i have a 357 sig barrel for my Sig 229. im not much a fan of switch caliber guns but when its a simple switch and dosent have to change anything but the barrel on the Sig.

to the OP, im a fan of the Delta ( i understand Colt is coming out with a new one) or the Glock 20

in revo, as mentioned a 610 can easily shoot both calibers.
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I've got a 4006 already and I'm looking to step up a bit. I am also into reloading, but I haven't seen much 10MM brass around. Thought about a 4" 610, but a 10MM pistol appeals to me more.
Starline has probably the best brass and not a bad price. Go to their website prices include shipping. If you reload definatly get a 10mm but you will get addicted I am warning you.
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im thinking of gettind .40 and .357 sig barreks fitted for my Delta. i have a 357 sig barrel for my Sig 229. im not much a fan of switch caliber guns but when its a simple switch and dosent have to change anything but the barrel on the Sig.

to the OP, im a fan of the Delta ( i understand Colt is coming out with a new one) or the Glock 20

in revo, as mentioned a 610 can easily shoot both calibers.
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I tried a 357 sig conv on one of my Deltas about 10 years ago. I got a barsto barrel. Problem is, the 357 sig needs a dedicated 1911 magazine, probably because of the single column stack. After charging the magazine with 4 or so rounds, the bullets start to nose-dive, causing malfunctions up to that point. The 10mm mags actually seemed to work a little better than the 40 mags.

After being forewarned, I still have the barrel and bushing and the link, almost new. Email me if your interested in working out a deal. It's a drop-in, was a little tight in the Custom Combat 10, won't quite fit my Double Eagle 10 or stainless Delta. I hsve a Kimber 10mm, but the barrel is ramped.
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Starline has probably the best brass and not a bad price. Go to their website prices include shipping. If you reload definatly get a 10mm but you will get addicted I am warning you.
Thanks for the info. Addicted huh, is that a bad thing?? LOL!
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Not really but if you get a 10mm you will want more. They are awesome to shoot.
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I tried a 357 sig conv on one of my Deltas about 10 years ago. I got a barsto barrel. Problem is, the 357 sig needs a dedicated 1911 magazine, probably because of the single column stack. After charging the magazine with 4 or so rounds, the bullets start to nose-dive, causing malfunctions up to that point. The 10mm mags actually seemed to work a little better than the 40 mags.

After being forewarned, I still have the barrel and bushing and the link, almost new. Email me if your interested in working out a deal. It's a drop-in, was a little tight in the Custom Combat 10, won't quite fit my Double Eagle 10 or stainless Delta. I have a Kimber 10mm, but the barrel is ramped.
no bueno eh ? maybe i'll pass on that idea. my 229 is reliable with either barrell and no mag problems. 357 sig is almost as expensive as 10mm so i dont shooot either caliber much.
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If you want a pure shooter, consider a G20. I just bought an SF and I'm very satisfied.

Go to Ebay and Gunbroker for brass. You can buy new Starline at fairly reasonable prices.
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If you want a pure shooter, consider a G20.
I agree. 10mm for SHTF, and a drop in 40s&w conversion barrel for target shooting.
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Thanks again for the advice guys.
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I have an interest in purchasing a 10MM. Which pistol is best? Why? With current ammo prices, is it even worth investing in as I don't want another safe queen. Opinions please. Thanks!
In my opinion, the 1006 or the 1066 would be the way to go. They have traditional double action.

The 1046 and the 1086 are nice as well, if you want the DAO.
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Any of the 10xx series are great guns. I have heard mixed reviews on the EAA models, but for their price I would give them a shot. The other 10mm are nice, but expensive. Of course, 10mm is an addictive round.
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While we are on the subject of the mighty 10 if any of yall come accross a 1066 for sale let me know. Im Having great difficulty finding one in good shape. My 1006 that i bought new many years ago is in need of some company.
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There was one available on the 10mm Forum a week or so ago, don't know if it is still there. It is actually www.ar15armory.com. Good luck.
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Thanks firecaptain for the info but I contacted the seller of that one and he had a change of heart and decided not to sell. Dont blame him at all
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Thanks again for the info guys. I'm now looking for a nice 1006.
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Good luck I think you made a good choice.The 1006 had the highest production run and can still be found.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti...m.asp?Item=130122637
Hey I found one on gun broker. No magazine but you can still get them from S&W website. You can also find some magazines on gunbroker but they are usually too high.Good luck.
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i have a Glock 20 and love it!

if i choose i can get barrels for the weaker .357Sig and or the .40S&W calibers.

the price i pay for new h.p. ammo that is FBI LIGHT is $10/20 rounds of the PMC stuff.

the green box Remington FMJ stuff is $27/50 rounds.

and the real deal 10mm loads by Double Tap are $38/50 rounds.

the mid powered 10mm Win STHP can be had for $18/20 rounds.

so, no its not as cheap as 9mm ammo, but ive found it on par with quality .45acp ammo.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti...m.asp?Item=130154002
I found another one on Gunbroker. This one looks really good and has 2 mags. If you have the money this might be a good one to buy.
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117.. sent you some email
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Thanks firecaptain for the info but I contacted the seller of that one and he had a change of heart and decided not to sell. Dont blame him at all
Looks like it might be for sale again as there is recent updates on the forum. I'd check again.
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Thanks again Firecaptain, I now have several I have found or that have found me. Several nice looking 1066 out there. Will let you know which one I get and will post a picture .
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The G20 is nice.
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Kimber also has 2 options, the Eclipse and the Stainless Target II which are both available in 10 mm. I own a Stainless Target II (one of my favorites) and I can tell you, its a dream to shoot the 10 mm in the 1911 platform. I've never shot a Smith or Glock 10 mm so I can't advise you there, but I can tell you that stainless 1911 made me a believer!!
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I have Smiths and Glocks in 10mm and love them all. Do not have a 1911 but have considered a Fusion CCO. They are the same size as the SIG Revolution Compact C.
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I have a 1076 and a Dan Wesson CBOB 1911. Both are 4.25" bbl and all stainless steel guns. Both handle 10mm really well. In my hand I find the 1911 has a little less muzzle flip and seems to get back on target a little faster. But, I wouldn't give either one of them up as they are both quite accurate.

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I have both a 1026 and a 1076 and hope to own a Dan Wesson Razorback Sportsman 1911 before too very long.

The 10mm is a great defensive caliber with lots of potential and it's a lot of fun to shoot. With full power loads, it's a true magnum auto pistol caliber. I keep my 10mm pistols loaded with either Winchester 175 gr. Silvertips or with the Double Tap 165 gr. Golden Saber load.
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10mm! So, what's not to like about . . .

. . . the 1006 . . .



. . . the 1066 . . .



. . . or the 1076?

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Or the 1986.
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I sure hope no one takes this wrong and the moderators don't pull it for what ever reason. I went to Novack's website looking for night sights and ran across this 1006 for sale by Novack.

http://www.novaksights.com/novak%20c...SON_MODEL_1006

Man I am torn between this and a DW CBOB, but since I am a big DW fan with 4 of their revolvers.....
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OK this is just getting mean , too many of those 10MMs are not in my collection and to top it off the local Cabelas now has a DW 10MM in the display case ....
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I just got a 1006 new in the box... safe queen. It has the adjustable sights. I also got 7 boxes of ammo but all are the 180 at the 40 S&W speed. I've not shot the gun as yet but the single action trigger pull is very crisp. Now to my question. I've been a handloader since 1959 but this is my first 10MM. I would like to know of a light load that will be pleasant to shoot and what bullet weight should I use. Please give me your thoughts. My arms and hands are getting weaker due to age so you understand that I don't like a lot of recoil. I don't shoot full house .44 mag loads any more. If there are any other tips you can give on this model please let me know. What kind of accuracy would it give at 25 yards?
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I shoot a lot of 170g LSWC/HP, but I would have to go dig out my records to be sure of powder type and weight used. Even with the hot hand loads the recoil is not bad, but slide hammering really gets to me even with light loads with my arthritic hands.

My G29 and my big Para PXT 14-45 do not bother my hands for what ever reason. Neither does my Dan Wesson 744 (44 Mag) for that matter. My 357 magnums however does give my hands some problems as do my 22 Ruger automatic's, but the 22 magnum revolvers do just fine.
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I have a 1006, (my wife reminds me that I am no longer a “spring chicken”) I think you will be surprised at the relatively low recoil the 1006 has with full power loads.
If you can hold that heavy thing up, you can shoot it.
The regular commercial loads are light, not true of the Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore loads, but they should not jolt you much. I reload for the 10mm, you can find a load all of the way from mouse gas to romping stomping.
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I have a 1006, (my wife reminds me that I am no longer a “spring chicken”) I think you will be surprised at the relatively low recoil the 1006 has with full power loads.
IMO If you can hold that heavy thing up, you can shoot it.
The regular commercial loads are light, not true of the Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore loads, but they should not jolt you much. I reload for the 10mm, you can find a load all of the way from mouse gas to romping stomping.
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Kimber also has 2 options, the Eclipse and the Stainless Target II which are both available in 10 mm. I own a Stainless Target II (one of my favorites) and I can tell you, its a dream to shoot the 10 mm in the 1911 platform. I've never shot a Smith or Glock 10 mm so I can't advise you there, but I can tell you that stainless 1911 made me a believer!!
Another thing I like about my Kimber SS Target II 10mm is the ramped barrel. Those Double Tap 200gr hardcast work really well. Like a 41 mag in a 1911, well, almost.
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I have an interest in purchasing a 10MM. Which pistol is best? Why? With current ammo prices, is it even worth investing in as I don't want another safe queen. Opinions please. Thanks!
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I would recommend a G20 for a first 10mm if you are worried about arthritic hand problems, I can shoot my G29 compact 10mm with ease and no hand pain and it is very accurate. The 29 is probably the most accurate small or compact model handgun made for combat shooting. But that is not to be confused with target ultra small groups. My Para will shoot a smaller group at paper targets from rested or braced slow fire, but when not trying to shoot for small group and just knock steel targets or bowling pins its better then my Para all due to recoil.

I have shot very hot full house 155gr loads in my Glock faster and more accurate then commercial loads in my Para, only down side is the over sized and none fully supported chamber leaves 10 worthless empties on the ground. These were loadings for a 610 revolver and were pushing past anything DT sells.
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Another vote for the Kimber Target II in 10mm (made in limited run in about 2002). Mine is even better now - had the factory replace the original target sights with the night sights, also had the front strap checkered 30 lpi, replace the rubber stocks w/ factory rosewood. Super fitting, great trigger, superb accuracy, right from the factory. Neither love nor money will get the gun away from me. BTW, I like this gun much better than the Colt Delta Elite that I had about 20 years ago. A stout load of Blue Dot behind a good 180 JHP makes this thing really sing.

I do love this gun, but please don't make me choose between this and my 4" M57 Smith...
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Also meant to mention, 2400 is another great powder for the 10mm, 180 grain bullets.
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Another vote for the Kimber Target II in 10mm (made in limited run in about 2002). Mine is even better now - had the factory replace the original target sights with the night sights, also had the front strap checkered 30 lpi, replace the rubber stocks w/ factory rosewood. Super fitting, great trigger, superb accuracy, right from the factory. Neither love nor money will get the gun away from me. BTW, I like this gun much better than the Colt Delta Elite that I had about 20 years ago. A stout load of Blue Dot behind a good 180 JHP makes this thing really sing.
Not sure what you mean, limited run. The Eclipse 10mm originally was a limited run, but it was so popular that it and the Target II 10mm are now regular production guns. I also had the target nite sights put on my Target II 10mm by my local dealer. I got a set of carbon fiber Crimson Trace laser grips on it, and a 24# Wolff recoil spring. On the downside, it sometimes fails to feed the last round. Other than that, I love my Delta Elites, or anything 10mm for that matter.
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