I found another M&P forum. Burwell is on this site.
I am reading about huge numbers of problems with the M&Ps.
Considering trading mine for a Glock. I never had any problems with Glocks.

I found another M&P forum. Burwell is on this site.
I am reading about huge numbers of problems with the M&Ps.
Considering trading mine for a Glock. I never had any problems with Glocks.

Such as? Authority? A little more information would be helpful.

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Glock's have issues too. Pick your poison.

You will find glitches in every make and model. I like the Glocks and M&P's. The M&P's fit my hand better so I carry them. Its personal preference. As for lots of problems with M&P's there has been an issue or two but Smith has addressed them (mag catch is an example). You got to watch about this internet stuff, some of it is hype and some of it just people wanting to gripe.

Army, I followed the link which you provided,the only complaint I saw was from your post there, answered by two positive reports from M&P owners. Did I miss the others?I don't own an M&P , but am considering the purchase of one. Any help would be apreciated.Thanks

I have two M&P's that my son and I shoot in IDPA matches. WE have fired about 10,000 rounds and have NEVER had a malfunction. When new, the triggers were a little "gritty" but, after about 1000-1500, they smoothed out considerably. These are the nicest pointing, most comfortable shooting handguns I own.

weird

I have been working the trigger and it seems to have smoothed out.

I don't know what is causing the stovepipes, tho.

I really, really take anything on the internet with a large can of salt.

When it comes to handguns I much prefer my personal experience as a guide.

I have had no problems with M+P's either in 9mm or .45. That's good enough for me.

Here is a picture of my 4th the other 3 I threw in the trash.

I have had 4 defective strikers.S+W replaced them all.I keep 2 spares now and limit my dryfiring to almost zero.My advice is don't dryfire your M+P.

This is a very good subject and as an owner of a full size and compact MP it is relative. At what point will S&W jump into this one and provide clarity? Can we dry fire or not?

Gents, the problem is still under investigation as to cause. There's supposedly been a redesign of the striker.

It doesn't seem to be a major issue. We have X00 "B" series in service with no striker issues. I have a personally owned "F" series with no issues despite several hundred dry fires.

The gent with 4 striker failures is advised to contact S&W, mention the number of failures and request that the pistol be examined to see if there's anything contributing to the problem. By any chance did you alter the trigger mechanism?

armyeod- given the number of M&Ps cranked out in a couple of years-past a half million to date, a few issues are going to crop up. There are not a huge number of problems. The difference between Smith & Glock is that Smith fixes the problems promptly, rather than blaming the ammo, the owner and/or the alignment of the moon & stars.

Thanks. I am having Smith fix.

My other M&P is great, altho I have only put 100 rounds thru it.

On another note; I have been taking down my M&P "like a Glock" in that I just rotate the lever and DRY FIRE the gun to get the slide released. I guess I should try the book method.

I think the dropping a loaded magazine and strikers breaking dryfiring or not is a very serious problem in a pistol marketed for the self defense,law enforcement and military market.God forbid I ever have to use a pistol to defend myself or others but if that time comes I really don't want the magazine falling out of it,or the striker breaking because I was dryfiring it the night before.I really like the M+P and my solution to the striker problem is I have a dedicated practice striker when I am done I put my live fire striker in.I will be leaving my pistol at S+W this weekend and see if they can fix the striker problem.

I have shot the snot out of M&P9 since getting it two months ago without a problem in the gun or magazines. I do not dry fire as the trigger was fine when I bought it and I don't need practice pulling the trigger anymore. If you want a Glock - get one; no need to bad mouth S&W in the process.

I have to tell you that since reading about the many failures of this weapon, I have gone back to the Beretta M9A1 for my home defense gun.

I cannot take any chances with malfunctions when lives could be at stake.

Same would go for a carry weapon.

Berettas have had a lot of issues, too. So has Sig, Glock, Smith, and everything else. I've had and loved Berettas, Glocks and Smiths, even a Wilson Combat. The least reliable out of the bunch was the Wilson. Everybody makes lemons.

army_eod I am with you I am now using a beretta 92G-Sd for home defense and a 92 Elite II for carry.I went back to the Beretta because they have been flawless.enidpd804 the Beretta had some locking block problems early on which Beretta promptly fixed.also there were some slides reported broken which was traced back to +p+ sub gun ammo.Use beretta or Meg-Gar magazines in a Beretta and you will have no problems.Our troops don't have a problem with the Beretta but with the 9mm ball ammo they are forced to use and the ****** low bid magazines they were sent.Which again has been fixed.

Agreed, sir.

I just put the M&P Pro up for sale.

I will do the same to my other one soon.

My Berettas never gave me any reason to doubt their reliability. I used them in Combat Zones.

I picked up the M&P9 not too long ago, and right at of the box I noticed some sloppy play in the slide. Realized the sear block pin was missing. Brought it down to the security quarters dropped it off and 2 days later had it back. Since then Ive put 750 rounds through it and havent had one failure.

I have a friend that works there and he said, its bound to happen (because I was irritated). Theyre pushing these guns out rather fast at a large demand and like any business (ie: car production) you always will have problems or lemons. You have to have patience and if you do have problems, you have to bring it to their attention, because all the problems get noted and taken care of, whether its a fitters issue, design flaw or machining problem.

I have an M&P with almost 10,000 rounds through it and just as many dry fire cycles and have yet to have ANY problem. I use it in IDPA and USPSA matches. It jet gets better and better.
Sorry to hear that you've had problems with yours. S&W Customer service is the BEST in the industry, the only other company that is close is Dillon.
Randy

If one has lost confidence in a pistol they should simply sell it and get something they do have confidence in.
I've seen pistols of just about every make fail in one way or another. If it was made by man it can fail.
To this point I have had zero problem with the 3 M&Ps I own (not many rounds either). I like Berettas but I've had a trigger return spring break on my 92f within the first 500 rounds. On Browning High Powers I've seen barrel unlocking cams break, firing pin stop plates break, failures of slide stops and extractors, yet I would have no problem trusting my life to one. I've had similar experiences with 1911s.
You have to keep things in perspective.

All guns have issues. Berettas have a very nasty habit of having locking blocks break without warning and there is no quick fix. It has to go to an armorer. A broken firing pin can be user replaced on the M&P. S&Ws do not break locking blocks or have slides fly off in the shooter's face. I got rid of my Beretta.

My M&P9c has worked flawlessly for about 500 rds. I wouldn't sell it for anything. Woody

I love my two M&P's. I was out shooting them today. They operate perfectly. My only complaint is magazine availability. They can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand !

John!

for the record.

One M&P Pro sold.
One M&P still owned and working well
One M9A1 working well and will use for IPSC

Thanks for the info on the M&P.

Dave,

It seems that you have strayed a bit off topic once more. I'm sorry that we got this thread going again while you were obviously on a weekend bender. When you have sobered up a bit, I would be glad to begin again.

Ah, so now we finally know the real story about you: That you are apparently a disgruntled stock holder, upset over the stock's recent decline. Most people know that such shareholder lawsuits are often extremely frivolous in nature, and many times go absolutely no where. It is a part of business these days, partially due to the fact that the United States has the highest per capita number of lawyers in the entire world.

Do you not realize how much you are coming across here as a crybaby? Waah, Waah, Waah. So are you trying to build up public support for this shareholder lawsuit so that you can hopefully enrich yourself as a plaintiff in it? Certainly sounds like you are most extremely biased and have a very personal axe to grind here.

So you gambled on the stock market and have lost money. Do you think that you are somehow unique in being in that position these days? There are all kinds of blue chip companies in serious trouble these days. There are top manufacturers in Japan who have not shown a loss in the last 50 years that are now losing money big time currently. And some of them are even laying off full time employees for the first time in 50 years.

I'm shocked to find that you really are an adult, a gun owner, and a member of the armed services. I would never have suspected that such a person as that would behave as you have been doing in all of your threads attacking Smith & Wesson on these online forums.

These words that you posted just over a week earlier this month on Glocktalk help to illustrate what a mixed up person that you are. Apparently you have no firmly held convictions.

"I have owned most of the polymer guns and the M&P pretty much wins."

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...php?p=12281073

Maybe if you really did research you would find that I made that comment regarding my 357 M&P. It is a fine gun.

I became less than impressed with the M&P when I bought the Pro model. It had problems.

I still own the 357.

Please don't be shocked.

then:

Make up your mind. Are you selling it or not?

The S&W MP is a great concept. The gun has wonderful ergonomics, It feels great in the hand, is accurate, and is built in the USA, and comes with a lifetime warranty. They STILL have a problem with reliability as documented on the MP Forum. Problems with magazines dropping out at the wrong time, strikers breaking, a few instances of frames cracking, rust issues, and a few broken triggers, and other miscellaneous issues make it a nice range gun but not one I'm willing to stake my life on. I sold my MP40 and went back to my Glock 19's for a lightweight carry gun...I've never had a glitch with either one of them. When S&W gets the quality control issues resolved, I will buy another MP and give it an honest trial.
I like the concept very much.