My CS 9 and I have become good friends now but I noticed that my shots in Double Action are always right on the money and this trigger pull is very natural for me being a revolver shooter for so many years.Try as I may I still have a tendency to pull shots from the conversion from Double Action to Single Action.Smith quoted me a price of 140 for the conversion with the parts and labor.What do you think?? Thanks for your input......Mike

Can't help a lick with the cost/difficulty question C/RN?
Regardless of what works best for some or most, what works best for YOU is what counts. I'm another, that can't quite get my arms around the DA/SA transition either. I'll either go all S/A (a la 1911') or all D/A (in my case the M&P is feeling more and more like what I'm after). But like I said above it's where the sights land for you, not me?

I am toying around with asking if they can convert my 3913 to Single Action Only. I much prefer the Single Action to Double Action. Please keep up apprised if you go through with it.

I showed up just in time to get in on this, cause I have been thinking the same thing. Having been forced to carry a glock all these years at work, I have become rather fond of the same trigger all the time type of shooting. My scores with the Glock are great, and I have been toying with the idea of converting my 4566 and CS 45 to DAO. How good are the triggers on Smith DAO guns? Then I would have to find me a 4516 or a 457S to convert as well.

If you do a conversion you are going to get a different DAO trigger than the original S&W DAO trigger. The difference will be that you will be getting a longer trigger pull and maybe a little heavier trigger.

Instead of the conversion you might want to consider buying an original DAO model if it is available in a gun like the one you have. Not all of the guns were made in the original DAO.

Bill

I say pocket the 140 for ammo and practice practice and practice.

slow down, and squeeze the shot off.

you like the dbl action pull so much, you may lose focus when it comes to SA and then your shots go adrift.

I would say dry fire, but it will be cumbersome, as you will have to cock the hammer each time by retracting the slide, but not to the point where you get slide lock back.

have fun

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I had my CS9 converted to DAO and i dont regret it one bit. The consistent trigger pull is similar to my other pistols and my scores remain more constant.

I used to have a 3953 and sold it because I found the DAO trigger pull to be very heavy. The DA pull on my 5903 is noticeably lighter. If you like DAO, but want a lighter trigger pull, look for a Kahr; my P9 has a really nice trigger.

Well, I guess the questions I had wouldn't really apply to a converted gun, if it is going to be different than a factory made DAO. Things like what was the reset like, how long was the trigger stroke, those sorts of things.

The funny thing is I don't have a single problem with a firearm such as the 1911 that is single action only it is in the different trigger stroke between going double action on the first shot to single action on subsequent shots.Funny thing happened today at the range the trigger relief spring had snapped off after I dropped the magazine and broke it down for cleaning.That being said Smith and Wesson will be sending me a return ticket and I will have both the warranty repair and the conversion done at the same time.I think I will be happier with a DAO even if the trigger is longer and heavier,heck NOTHING is heavy when you are used to the 14 LB NYPD TRIGGER........LOL.I will let everyone know hoow things work out when I get my baby back.BTW I didn't look into getting a CS9 DAO because the kingdom of New York makes you have all guns listed on Pistol License.When I got my 6th pistol,a Kel Tec P3AT the county police mandated a safe inspection with the cops taking pictures of my safe and its location as well as inspection of my alarm system and other security measures.After that unpleasant experience I really don't want to give these people any more reason to cause grief in my life.Thanks to all and may God Bless.....Mike

I will be interested in hearing back from you on how it works, plus cost, that sort of thing.

When all is done and my baby is back home I will give a full rundown of cost,trigger feel,and performance.I have never been disappointed by S+W's work in the past and am looking foward to the improvements.....God Bless.....Mike

Just out of curiosity do you think the DAO trigger pull is appreciably longer or heavier than the DA first shot in the DA/SA pistol???Thanks a Bunch .....
mike

check out this place for DAO work for much less than $140.00: www.tarnhelm.com

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The Smith DAO trigger is considerably shorter than a first shot DA. The DAO models fire from a partially cocked hammer, which shortens the trigger pull. This isn't the best picture, but if you look at the hammer on this 4553 you can see that it is partially cocked. The trigger is further to the rear than on a DA/SA model.

Kurt, that looks as though it might be a converted gun, anyway, do you have any experience with guns converted to DAO as opposed to the guns that started out that way. What is the reset like on a converted gun, do you have to let the trigger all the way out or is it precocked?

The 4553 is factory DAO. If the 3rd digit is a 4,5 or 8, then it is DAO from the factory.

I had an early CS45 converted to DAO by the factory. The hammer/trigger they used are the same as the current TSW model in the photo. The reset is in the middle, somewhere between the DA and SA in TDA models. The hammer stays partially cocked, so the trigger does not go all the forward (like a Beretta D model would).

Well my baby is off to the factory today.Because of the broken Trigger Spring they sent me a call tag and my gun shop is sending it out to them.In the "Kingdom of New York" we have to be paranoid about when any of our pistols leave our possession,had a friend ship his pistol to Colt and somehow UPS lost it and they attempted license revokation hearing on a charge of "failing to safeguard your gun".Since I heard of that experience the only time my guns leave is thru a FFL where there is a clear chain of custody.I asked what the difference in trigger pull will be like and Smith said it will actually be a little shorter than the Double action pull now.Full cost is supposed to be 140 dollars complete but I gave them my CC # just in case it doesn't work out that way.A full and honest report will follow when she comes back.....Stay tuned.......Mike

I'm looking forward to your report.

Bill

Thanks, I am starting to get interested here, can't wait to hear from Cruiser RN now.

When I get it back from Smith I will tell all of my experience with them and my pleasure or lack thereof with the conversion.I will make it a point to send you a personal message also as soon as testing is completed....God Bless.....Mike

Does anyone know if S&W will convert the 915 to DAO?

If they do, I might like it more.

A few years ago, I sent my 1006 to S&W to have it modified to DAO. It cost about $135 plus shipping. I've been very satisfied.

SkyRock, thanks. I'll be giving Springfield a call on Monday.

Hi Wyatt Earp.It is cool that I may have inadvertently started a trend in the DAO conversion trend.A question..What is the translation to english in the bottom of your post?? My Spanish is sadly Camando medical spanish which is very poor at best.....God Bless...Mike

is the dao conversion exactly the same as factory dao, or do you get second strike capability? the only thing i don't like about my dao's is no multi strike.

I don't understand how a DAO pistol can NOT have multi-strike capabilities. By definition, double action means that the trigger performs two actions; one being cocking the hammer; the other being releasing the hammer. In other words, every time the trigger is pulled, the hammer is cocked and dropped by a single pull. So by definition every DAO pistol has multi-strike capability.

Andrew

P.S. This thread is really old. If the OP is around, I would love to know how the DAO conversion came out.

I have a CS9D and love it. It's the only 3rd Gen DAO out of my autos. I can't speak on other DAO models but the CS9D does have second strike capability. The trigger pull is long but not overly heavy (feels like the DA (first pull) on my 915). My humble vote would be to hold out and find a CS9D to add to the collection.