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Old 09-01-2009, 05:39 PM
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After reading here and yon concerning a good to great CCW pistol I decided on a 3913. I looked for one locally for a month or so and finally found one in not beat up condition. "She's" in great shape and shoots well too I can cover groups shot from 10 paces with my hand.
She does need a bit of work though... The SA pull is 8 pounds and the DA is off the 12 pound trigger pull scale. She also ejects brass from Winchester White Box 115 fmj about 10 to 12 feet So, I guess it's time for springs before putting anything other than light loads in the mag.

OTOH - The trigger is smooth and quiet, just heavy. I'll probably be asking about fixing it up pretty soon. Please be patient

BTW - This is the first 3913 that I've seen without a decocker on the right side.... I like it
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:59 PM
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Very nice. 3913's are great pistols.

It's interesting that it's an LS, yet it has black grips; the LS models usually came with gray grips.
Maybe the previous owner changed them? I always liked the black grips better.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:02 PM
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DeadAye,

Congratulations on your new Lady!

The entire 3900 series are delightful little carry guns and perhaps some of the most underrated pistols around today.

I have a Lady Smith also and your description of the trigger closely matches mine. Heavy but very smooth. Mine ejects casings into a tidy pile 6-8 ft from the gun. I've shot many different types of loads with nary a problem.

I agree with WaterburyBob, it is likely someone swapped out the original gray grips. I believe the original LS guns all had gray. In any event, the black looks fine on your gun and she looks to be in terrific condition.

IIRC, all the LS models came with the decocker on the left side only. The standard 3913 had the lever on both sides.

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DeadAye,

Congratulations on your new Lady!

The entire 3900 series are delightful little carry guns and perhaps some of the most underrated pistols around today.

I have a Lady Smith also and your description of the trigger closely matches mine. Heavy but very smooth. Mine ejects casings into a tidy pile 6-8 ft from the gun. I've shot many different types of loads with nary a problem.

I agree with WaterburyBob, it is likely someone swapped out the original gray grips. I believe the original LS guns all had gray. In any event, the black looks fine on your gun and she looks to be in terrific condition.

IIRC, all the LS models came with the decocker on the left side only. The standard 3913 had the lever on both sides.

Enjoy.

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'The standard 3913 had the lever on both sides.'

Not necessarily true.
My standard 3913 came with the decocker on the left side only.
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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Congrats! Probably the finest single stack 9mm carry gun ever made. Enjoy yours! Regards 18DAI.
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:20 AM
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Maybe this post should be in the Gunsmith section???

Is throwing the ejected brass 10' way excessive?

I've been reading and reading and believe that Wolff springs are the way to go (?)...

Do I just need the stock weight recoil spring or should I get the calibration pack?

The calibration pack includes "extra power firing pin springs". Will extra power firing pin springs increase the trigger pull weight? I think it's already way more than it should be, which is the subject of yet more questions.

Questions, questions.......
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The extra power firing pin spring will not increase trigger pull weight, I did the pencil test with the factory FP spring & then the wolff extra power & found that the pencil didn't come out quite as far as with the factory but was 100% at the range with the wolff spring..
Also wolff sells reduced power hammer springs that fits on the strut inside the grip housing, this will reduce trigger pull weight slightly, also note that the 3953 DAO used a slightly reduced hammer spring factory & wolff offers a replacement for that spring.. Look at thier webpage & you'll see it..
If I remember correctly I think wolff also sells a complete spring kit for the 3rd Gen Smiths but that could have been a factory S&W offering I was thinking of..
I put a stock weight wolff recoil spring in my 3913NL & it was around an inch longer than the factory spring which had worn over the years, It ejected about 6+ feet away..
I had to sell mine about a month ago & realy miss that slim little 3rd Gen Smith..
The only single stack pistols I can think of in the same catagory as the 3913 is the Walther P5, SIG P225/P6 & The HK P7 & they all are bigger and heavier than the S&W..
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While we're on the subject of the 3913 and its springs, perhaps somebody could tell me about the relationship between that pistol and the S&W 908. This is always presented as the "budget" version of the 3913, although it is a fine pistol and I am very pleased with it.

I am, however, curious if all springs or any other parts can be substituted one for the other.

Please excuse this slight diversion from the original subject.

Now to return to the OP and his 3913. If I like the budget version of the 3913, I bet the real thing is a sweet pistol indeed.
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3913 pistols! Heck, they're not that accurate . . .



I'm so disappointed with mine that I'm not going to hunt down anymore. That's right, I'm drawing the line at four . . .

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You really ought to get that 3913 checked Denver Dick. That group is pretty loose for a 3913. Nice shooting! Regards 18DAI.

Edited to add: 3913 fans might note that two of Denver Dicks 3913's have the factory relieved slide stop. The one in his target photo shows it clearly. Helps when using IWB holsters, for me. I don't know why S&W did not put them on all the 3913's.

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I don't know why S&W did not put them on all the 3913's.
The two with the factory relieved slide stops were made in 1991 and 1992, note the stainless/hard-chromed triggers. The other two were made in 1996 and 1999. I've found that the factory relieved slide stops appear on the earlier 3913s. It may be that those who use the slide stop as a release bent the ear of S&W and got there way in the mid 90's, just a guess on my part. FWIW
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I have a nice 6906. I didn't know that the factory relieved slide stops were available. If any one knows where I can purchase one please let me know. It seems like a great little feature to have. Thanks

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Great finds.... Denver Dick.
Love those 3913's

You have a nice collection there.
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I did the pencil test with the factory FP spring & then the wolff extra power & found that the pencil didn't come out quite as far as with the factory but was 100% at the range with the wolff spring..
I'd forgot the pencil test.... Blasted a new #2 a bit over 4 feet up. I assume that this is well within spec (?)

Ordered a new, stock weight, recoil spring from Wolff and a calibration set of both hammer springs (S&W seems to think they're mainsprings) and trigger return springs today.

Trying to make a great pistol even better
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My 3913 was off my 12 lb scale on DA. At 8 lbs, it is way heavier on SA than my smothed out Beretta is on DA. My change of the S&W hammer spring did not seem to help. I have sent this 3913 to the performance center for assistance. I will post results. These are great looking lightweight carry guns, but shooting is everything. After seeing Deadeye's group, I must have weak hands.
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Congrats on a fine little gun. Few concealment semiautos can equal it for reliability, accuracy, and concealability. I was lucky enough to find a 3913NL, which is exactly the same gun as the Ladysmith, but without the Ladysmith logo. I pack mine occasionally, although I prefer a revolver. I think the "NL" means "No Logo."
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I received my 3913 back from an action job at the Performance Center. Trigger pull has been reduced to 9.5 to 10 lbs DA and 5.5 to 6 SA. What a disappointment. Smith and Wesson obviously no longer remembers the great triggers that made their K and N frame revolvers famous. I sure don't reccommend their workmanship and would send it to Cylinder and Slide if I could do it over.

I sent them an email, but they haven't acknowledged. So much for customer service.
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My previous post referred to the disappointing quality of my action job by S&W. I got an email today that explained the problem. My pistol did not get an action job as ordered; it was only cleaned and reassembled. Mistakes happen. My 3913 is going back to the Performance Center for the action job it needs.

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Old 09-11-2009, 11:17 AM
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Mistakes happen - Most companies wouldn't even let you know that they made one, let alone correct it...
Please let me (us) know how long it takes to get your pistol back and the results.
I just put new Wolff springs in mine and detail stripped and cleaned it. I hope to get to my favorite smith and use his scale again this afternoon or tomorrow.
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The Performance Center messed this deal up from start to finsh. They did do a good job cleaning it up but did not do the express action job that I ordered and paid with a credit card. After agreeing to correct it, they again messed up on the express part. I called them after waiting for a Fed Ex label for a week, I decided not to send it back. I went out to my shop, pulled the factory main spring out and put in the wolf spring after taking two coils off. This made it the same length as the heavier factory spring. I now have a good trigger pull at 7 lbs DA and just over 4 SA. That is just about where I am with my Beretta with a similar sawed off D mainspring. I will let you know about reliability after i fire a couple of hundred reloads. To Smith & Wesson's credit they claim they did not charge me for the action job that resulted only in cleaning.
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You feel the same way I did after finding my nice 4040PD a few weeks ago, -- they're both great carry pistols and have a lot in common in terms of size and dimensions and just all-around "neatness". You get an extra round with the 9mm and I get the dark finish and .40 caliber.

If I had found a good 3913 I would probably have bought it first without waiting for the 4040PD, but I got lucky. I'm definitely keeping my eyes peeled one in a month or so.

Enjoy it, and definitely carry it!
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