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11-09-2023, 10:16 AM
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Stainless K frame.22 Hornet
Daydreaming this morning and the thought popped into my head
“A stainless K-22 Hornet with a extra.22 LR cylinder available could be a cool gun”
Thought it might eliminate the shortcomings of the .22 Jet Mag and the ammunition is available.
Oh well, it was just a daydream.
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11-09-2023, 01:13 PM
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To long unless they stretch the frame.
I have a 224 Harvey Kay Chuck reamer however
Shorten hornet brass .10, fire form to straighten out the body.
Ream a K 22 cylinder and install it and a K 22 barrel on a center fire frame and you are good to go.
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11-09-2023, 01:26 PM
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Ream a K 22 cylinder and install it and a K 22 barrel on a center fire frame and you are good to go.
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Do you ever have any trouble with the action sticking?
I have always heard bottleneck cartridges are problematic in a revolver.
With any cartridge the brass will fireform to the chamber and push back hard against the frame. With a straight wall cartridge the brass can slide forward and relieve the pressure against the frame. With a bottleneck cartridge the brass has a fireformed shoulder that prevents it from going forward and the pressure against the frame makes cylinder rotation difficult and sticky.
But information is all second hand. I have never owned a revolver with a bottleneck cartridge and am curious how much of a problem it really is.
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11-09-2023, 02:01 PM
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Freedom Arms makes a Hornet. But it’s a single action.
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11-09-2023, 05:05 PM
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Do you ever have any trouble with the action sticking?
I have always heard bottleneck cartridges are problematic in a revolver.
With any cartridge the brass will fireform to the chamber and push back hard against the frame. With a straight wall cartridge the brass can slide forward and relieve the pressure against the frame. With a bottleneck cartridge the brass has a fireformed shoulder that prevents it from going forward and the pressure against the frame makes cylinder rotation difficult and sticky.
But information is all second hand. I have never owned a revolver with a bottleneck cartridge and am curious how much of a problem it really is.
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Not with clean chambers. When the powder ignites the pressure swells the brass against the chamber walls just as quickly as the neck. Unless you load to really high pressures of course. If you stay within the elastic limits of brass it will return to its original dimensions. Fire forming is different because that portion of the brass is unsupported The Jet and K Chuck kept down to reasonable with clean oil free chambers will not lock up. I have both.
Try this. Take a bottle neck rifle cartridge and lightly oil it, then fire it in a bolt gun. Bet that the bolt is harder to open than normal. That is because the case can not momentarily grip the chamber walls and it increases bolt thrust about 25%
Studies have been done on this repeatedly
PS If I ever come across a jet cylinder at a reasonable price I will have a 22 jet improved. Which is a 22 jet with all the taper fire formed out of the neck
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11-09-2023, 08:40 PM
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I had my local 'smith put together a K22-Bee a few years back. The .218 Bee is a necked down .32-20 and/or .25-20.
Hornady .218 Bee factory loads are just inside max OAL for the cylinder.
(a lot of other factory Bee ammo is just a tad long, so you'd have to load your own).
It's a pre-15 frame with a K22 barrel and reamed K22 cylinder.
It's loud but fun!
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11-10-2023, 04:00 AM
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The 218 Bee should work great
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11-16-2023, 11:24 AM
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If I ever come across a jet cylinder at a reasonable price I will have a 22 jet improved. Which is a 22 jet with all the taper fire formed out of the neck
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If you had Gun World magazines from the Jet days, you would see mention of the Cotterman Super Jet.
Christie made SAA barrels and cylinders for .22 Hornet and .218 Bee.
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11-16-2023, 11:57 AM
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The 218 Bee rings my Bell!
Have owned 2 - 22 Jets, jam up City with full loads.
Load down to about 22 Mag, good to go!
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