|
|
12-11-2016, 02:42 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 481
Likes: 89
Liked 214 Times in 120 Posts
|
|
5 shot 45 colt
that's not a governor and of course make it a 3 inch
|
12-15-2016, 03:15 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Tulsa County
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 1,644
Liked 3,135 Times in 1,146 Posts
|
|
Oo-oo-ooh! Fixed sight, round butt, 5 shot, L-frame with no hole, please!
__________________
CPT, Armor (Ret)
Luke 22:36
|
12-15-2016, 07:09 PM
|
Banned
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Battery Oaks Range, S.C.
Posts: 1,847
Likes: 5,663
Liked 3,574 Times in 1,163 Posts
|
|
elm, it may not be your cup of tea but Taurus makes that exact gun. I have one. They made it in a light weight version and I think in Titanium. Mine is a light weight. You can put the grips off the 38 on it and it gets SMALL. They made Jeff Cooper the only Gold colored one in 45.
|
12-18-2016, 08:06 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Tulsa County
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 1,644
Liked 3,135 Times in 1,146 Posts
|
|
Yeah, my brother has kept encouraging me to buy a 2½ inch Taurus 5 shot .41 Magnum we keep seeing at gun shows because he says my drooling on it is damaging the value to the seller. It isn't titanium, though! That would HURT!
__________________
CPT, Armor (Ret)
Luke 22:36
|
12-18-2016, 12:30 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Eastern Nebraska
Posts: 3,913
Likes: 10,390
Liked 8,361 Times in 2,893 Posts
|
|
Taurus doesn't catalog the one I have anymore... but if you can find a Model 450 Utra-lite in 45LC it is a wonderful gun, with low n slow cowboy loads it shoots like a 38 special... just bigger holes...lol
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
12-19-2016, 10:26 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,719
Likes: 12,860
Liked 39,491 Times in 10,051 Posts
|
|
S&W would have to do some serious revision to the L frame to make it a 5 shot 45. I have 3 5 shot L frame 44s (69, 696 and 396) and good calipers and mics. I bought the 69 first with the thought of making it into a 45. But, reaming it to 45 would leave the outside of cylinder paper thin. Between chambers would be fine. Taurus can do it because the have a smaller ratchet OD and chambers are closer to center of cylinder. For S&W to fo this they would need to make a smaller ratchet and because of this move the hand and its frame slot closer to center. To do this would take thinner action parts or offset hand. PLUS, moving the chambers in would mean they would need to lower the barrel in the frame to match. Which would mean a thinner area where yoke fits under barrel or a revised yoke.
The other alternative is to widen the frame window from top to bottom so a larger OD cylinder, Which would mean considerable reworking of the frame stamping and the pivot points of bolt, trigger, hammer etc.
NOT going to happen. IMHO
Last edited by steelslaver; 12-19-2016 at 10:31 AM.
|
12-28-2016, 02:00 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 481
Likes: 89
Liked 214 Times in 120 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelslaver
S&W would have to do some serious revision to the L frame to make it a 5 shot 45. I have 3 5 shot L frame 44s (69, 696 and 396) and good calipers and mics. I bought the 69 first with the thought of making it into a 45. But, reaming it to 45 would leave the outside of cylinder paper thin. Between chambers would be fine. Taurus can do it because the have a smaller ratchet OD and chambers are closer to center of cylinder. For S&W to fo this they would need to make a smaller ratchet and because of this move the hand and its frame slot closer to center. To do this would take thinner action parts or offset hand. PLUS, moving the chambers in would mean they would need to lower the barrel in the frame to match. Which would mean a thinner area where yoke fits under barrel or a revised yoke.
The other alternative is to widen the frame window from top to bottom so a larger OD cylinder, Which would mean considerable reworking of the frame stamping and the pivot points of bolt, trigger, hammer etc.
NOT going to happen. IMHO
|
Except they did already with the governor. Just needs a shorter cylinder
|
12-28-2016, 08:56 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,719
Likes: 12,860
Liked 39,491 Times in 10,051 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by caleb4387
Except they did already with the governor. Just needs a shorter cylinder
|
Nope, its a 6 shot and the Governor is a long N framed sized gun with a stretched out frame. The Taurus Judge is a 5 shot. As stated above Taurus used a smaller ratchet diameter that allows moving the chambers closer to the center. I would want a L framed sized frame and cylinder, preferably light weight alloy. I went with 396 and installed a Titanium cylinder. Yes, its a 44 spec. But, I don't see an L frame 45 coming along from S&W for a long time.
|
01-03-2017, 04:30 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 173
Likes: 7
Liked 193 Times in 62 Posts
|
|
I want a Taurus 450 or even a 45 Colt Tracker, I even bought the Taurus 445 in 44 Spl and a 44 Tracker because the S&W M69 just looks nasty, even though the new 2.75" M69 might get bought.
Taurus just has too many issues.
|
02-25-2022, 10:03 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 10
Likes: 7
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
|
|
It can be done.......I think
Rim on 45 is smaller
44 Mag runs higher pressure
Cut the chamber at 476.........
It’s physics
|
02-25-2022, 11:19 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posts: 181
Likes: 787
Liked 195 Times in 87 Posts
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
02-25-2022, 11:31 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 763
Likes: 829
Liked 1,361 Times in 506 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta Rose
|
I debated whether to get that CA in .45 Colt or the Pitbull in .45 ACP. Went with the Pitbull because I already reload ACP. Wouldn't mind having both. Love my Pitbull.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
02-26-2022, 12:30 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: central Illinois
Posts: 87
Likes: 206
Liked 62 Times in 26 Posts
|
|
Best of both… bought the 45 Colt Bulldog, then Charter fit a cyl & Crain from a Pit Bull. Shoots great. Cost $150 for factory service.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
02-26-2022, 01:14 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posts: 181
Likes: 787
Liked 195 Times in 87 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFthunder
Best of both… bought the 45 Colt Bulldog, then Charter fit a cyl & Crain from a Pit Bull. Shoots great. Cost $150 for factory service.
|
Charter retrofitted my 5 shot .32 Undercoverette with a newer 6 shot cylinder for $50. Great customer service. It shoots amazing 7 yards groups with the Federal .32 H&R LSWC load…
B18A4643-C821-48B3-A2FD-9E28DC294E7C.jpg
Last edited by Delta Rose; 02-26-2022 at 01:19 AM.
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|